Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Barry]

A post serving no purpose other than trolling.

Another rule broken in the previous post -
"The war will continue as long as the UK keeps being a spiteful little bitch of a country."
"name calling other... countries [are] strictly forbidden." - https://defencehub.live/threads/forum-rules.802/#post-4292

I genuinely wonder why you became a moderator here, considering you don't know/respect the rules of this forum, and regularly make posts that are flat out lies. A very bad precedent to set for other users.

Wow he's a mod? I've had him on ignore since it was clear he's a propagandist on some payroll.

 

[SilverMachine]

I mean, they're objectively gaining ground, every western government acknowledges that. A thousand dead grunts a day is bad news for the Rooskies if true, but it's nothing the people won't accept or the military can't absorb in the name of progress.

Again, every guy Ukraine loses is irreplaceable. For the Russians it's just "plenty more where those came from - go get some lifers from the prisons or hit up Kim for more cannon fodder from the hermit kingdom. We don't even have to go up a level with mobilization/conscription here."

Also, chances are if Russian losses are that high, Ukraine's not eactly having a party here either. Even if it's not a 1:1 equal ratio, they're losing dudes too.

 

[Spitfire9]

I mean, they're objectively gaining ground, every western government acknowledges that. A thousand dead grunts a day is bad news for the Rooskies if true, but it's nothing the people won't accept or the military can't absorb in the name of progress.

Again, every guy Ukraine loses is irreplaceable. For the Russians it's just "plenty more where those came from - go get some lifers from the prisons or hit up Kim for more cannon fodder from the hermit kingdom. We don't even have to go up a level with mobilization/conscription here."

Also, chances are if Russian losses are that high, Ukraine's not eactly having a party here either. Even if it's not a 1:1 equal ratio, they're losing dudes too.

I agree that in crude terms Russian manpower is inexhaustible. If North Korea chooses to continue to supply troops, that supply is inexhaustible. Ukraine does not have a limitless pool of troops in the same way. However, every man Russia sends to Ukraine (prisoners excepted) is a man removed from the labour force available to Russian industry when shortage of labour is causing major economic problems.

IMO Ukraine can't hold its own in this contest by the use of troops and armoured vehicles etc. I think that it needs to eat away at Russia's economy and at Russia's ability to support its war effort through attacks on its supply infrastructure - something it has been prevented from doing in full by its allies. Unless that changes I would see Ukraine slowly retreating from the land it holds until US support is withdrawn and the Ukrainian government is forced to sue for an end to the war.

I have no idea how the people of Ukraine will react if Zelensky tries to sell them the idea of part of their country being annexed by a vicious, corrupt regime.

 

[SilverMachine]

A lot of the actual factories and stuff aren't in the west of Russia, I doubt Ukraine can do a whole lot in terms of nullifying the equipment coming through. At least in more than a symbolic way, in some manner that actually turns the tide.

As far as the second part, who knows. I'd venture they're getting tired of it all. No idea how popular Zelensky himself is over there these days, but he does seem to have ditched a *little* of the messianic "we will prevail, we will win!" stuff lately, or at least tempered it. That's smart, because the worse this becomes he doesn't want to become Baghdad Bob, the people will see through it if he's only taking the good news from the generals and pretending everything's peachy.

 

[blackjack]

@Relic
Andrew Perpetua, Oryx and Warspotting all track both Russian and Ukrainian losses. You can also find a picture for every Russian vehicle on the Oryx website. You can also find thousands of Russian losses on the Reddit Combat Footage page. Covert Cabal also runs a YouTube channel in which he and his team use satelite imagery to track Russian vehicles and artillery removed from storage, used to replace Russian losses. It's fascinating how low Russia is on easily restored vehicles.



There are very good open source resources tracking the demise of the Soviet arsenal that was left to Russia.

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1855931152386629853

Losses ∙ Russia ∙ WarSpotting

Visually confirmed Russian losses in Russian war in Ukraine

ukr.warspotting.net

Covert Cabal

"War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left" -Unknown My goal is to create unbiased military analysis, which is something very rare these days. A lot of the military analyst I see in the media seem to be very partisan, or even just outright wrong giving incorrect...

m.youtube.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/

Ukraine war spotting has no recorded footage just photos anyone can make even with their own losses.Not even a time and date of where and when it occured. Covert cabal doesn't even offer an every update. Andrew from Twitter just pulls up a random excel which I can do to. Reddit only gives 2 updates in 24 hours while recording some old footage as stating it November like they are unsure on dates with their own claims.Is that it?
That still doesn't amount to what losses the Russia s inflict on Ukraine daily.

https://lostarmour.info/tags/lancet it's even harder trying to find Ukrainian equipment. They better get replenished soon as you say. Thanks for showing what vehicles get pledged, while I show depending on what month what lancets destroy with their recorded footage not counting the other drones and artillery they use.

The red cross source I posted here showing Russians willing to deliver 15 times more Ukrainian bodies for their own says it all. Surely the Ukrainians won't have any problems delivering the same amount of Russian bodies back with their own claims right?

 

[Spitfire9]

@Relic
Andrew Perpetua, Oryx and Warspotting all track both Russian and Ukrainian losses. You can also find a picture for every Russian vehicle on the Oryx website. You can also find thousands of Russian losses on the Reddit Combat Footage page. Covert Cabal also runs a YouTube channel in which he and his team use satelite imagery to track Russian vehicles and artillery removed from storage, used to replace Russian losses. It's fascinating how low Russia is on easily restored vehicles.



There are very good open source resources tracking the demise of the Soviet arsenal that was left to Russia.

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1855931152386629853

Losses ∙ Russia ∙ WarSpotting

Visually confirmed Russian losses in Russian war in Ukraine

ukr.warspotting.net

The red cross source I posted here showing Russians willing to deliver 15 times more Ukrainian bodies for their own says it all. Surely the Ukrainians won't have any problems delivering the same amount of Russian bodies back with their own claims right?

Not sure about that. IMO if one side is advancing, more enemy bodies should fall into their hands. The side retreating should not have so many enemy bodies fall into their hands.

 

[blackjack]

Not sure about that. IMO if one side is advancing, more enemy bodies should fall into their hands. The side retreating should not have so many enemy bodies fall into their hands.

Having an air force and 10 times the artillery, Ukrainian losses have always been significantly high rather if they stayed or retreated.Go ask the red cross why the Russians are generous in always trading more dead bodies back to Ukraine and even POWs?

This reminds me of News sources coming out of nowhere that Trump spoke to Putin giving Ukraine favorable treatment of a peace treaty. But Trump didn't contact the Kremlin and his son is still so cheerful on his social media accounts about cutting aid to Ukraine.

 

[Soldier30]

An episode of combat use of the Russian 152-mm self-propelled gun 2S43 "Malva" in the Kursk region of Russia. The self-propelled gun "Malva" is mounted on the chassis BAZ-6910-027 "Voshchina". Judging by the video, the artillery gun used is still 2A64, it is planned to replace it with a longer-range one.

 

[Woland]

A short update about Russian offensive in Kursk oblast. 12.11.24:
- 3 BTR-82A;
- 1 MTLB;
- 2 trucks with 2A36;
- 3 BMP-3;
- 4 MRAP

Since 07.11 till 12.11 RUAF have lost at least 77 AFV. That’s what only visible and confirmed with video. Including the fact that Russian and Ukrainian mechanised battalions don’t have 30/40 AFV due to the structure (in general 17-24 per battalion. Same with tanks) it means that they have lost three (3) battalions of AFV.

Source:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856352964178292939

 

[Spitfire9]

For the second day in a row, Russian forces have suffered record-high losses in Ukraine.

The estimated number is 1,950 troops lost in a single day, according to Ukraine's Armed Forces and The Kyiv Independent.

With that source, the number given has to be suspect but I think that a new record number of casualties may be true.

 

[blackjack]

Another update on the same day of actual visual proof worth more than a tweet with no visual proof as usual from the Ukrainian side

100 sq km for a day is quite a lot than the usual 40 sq kms. 2000 Russian casualties seems very accurate to.