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Ukrainian children kidnapped and taken to russia who do NOT speak russian it is decided to "teach" them to speak russian.:mad:
They will force childrens to learn russian understanding of history.............where russia is libarated them from their parents
It is known that the occupiers kidnaped tens of thousands of Ukrainian children to russian by force.

 

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At least they're not being forced to sign, unlike some reports saying that in some regions civilians were being forced to sign the contract.

Russian can't disclosed the true picture of war in Ukraine for their people as they promote and displaying in their state media Russian win the war and on the upper hand. If they suddenly Made sudden move to forced conscript, all the Russia would know the grim picture there


But in Donestk and Luhanks Rebel occupied area they are arresting able body man. And sent them to the frontline with minimum training and equipment, well afterall Donestk and Luhanks is already in constant state of war
 

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So many talks for years about how Russia was a paper tiger.

This debate raged on for decades. Now we see the reality.
On the offensive, they are just a crowd of marauders, you are absolutely right… But on the defensive, Ukraine has little or no chance to break through the Russian defences, that is the best Russians do!

Russians, as interpreted by western intelligence, are trying to secure the land bridge to Crimea, and with everything they have got. I say so long for Ukraine’s hopes and dreams to recapture Crimea!
 

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I think Ukraine is still bracing for the final Russian offensive in the East. Once Russia lost its momentum, Ukraine will start nationwide offensive to recapture all lost territory.

The influx of western weapons are increasingly offensive in nature a noticable trend from the earlier defensive nature.

Ukraine need to at least destroy another 1000 russian MBT to make sure russia will no longer be able to do a repeat offensive.

Russia could not spent all of its equipment in Ukraine. They will need a sufficient number of equipment to stay relevant in world politics.

Lets say before war russia operate 2000 MBT, at some point due to losses they'll have to think if they're going to fight to the last tank and leave no tank for homeland defense at all.

Currently the visually confirmed russian tank lost is capped at 500. The longer the war, the higher the attrition will be.
 

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At least they're not being forced to sign, unlike some reports saying that in some regions civilians were being forced to sign the contract.
You are not Right........why?
Only russians in Big cities like moscow, st.petersburg and novogorod are not forced.

In all other places they are forced to....

Highest places where forcing is going on are following:
First Occupation territory people are first
- Ukraine Luhansk, Donestk
- Georgia Abhazya
Second
- Minority regions of population like EAST russia........ best cannon fodder
 

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From BBC Europe... I have no idea if it holds water but this is put forth as Ukraine’s demands on a peace plan. Turkey is on the list of guarantor states;

”Russia says Ukraine has become "more realistic" in its approach but does not see its peace proposals as a breakthrough, so the war will continue. But this is Kyiv's offer:
  • Ukraine would become a "non-bloc (or non-aligned) and non-nuclear" state, with no foreign military bases or contingents on its territory
  • Strict, legally binding guarantees would require countries such as the UK, China, the USA, Turkey, France, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel to protect a neutral Ukraine in the event of attack
  • Within three days guarantor states would have to hold consultations and come to Ukraine's defence
  • Ukraine would be allowed to join the European Union
  • Ukraine would not enter military-political alliances and any international exercises would require consent of guarantor states.
Ukraine's bid to join Nato (and the EU) is enshrined in its 2019 constitution, so any change would require a referendum some months later.”
 

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From BBC Europe... I have no idea if it holds water but this is put forth as Ukraine’s demands on a peace plan. Turkey is on the list of guarantor states;

”Russia says Ukraine has become "more realistic" in its approach but does not see its peace proposals as a breakthrough, so the war will continue. But this is Kyiv's offer:
  • Ukraine would become a "non-bloc (or non-aligned) and non-nuclear" state, with no foreign military bases or contingents on its territory
  • Strict, legally binding guarantees would require countries such as the UK, China, the USA, Turkey, France, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel to protect a neutral Ukraine in the event of attack
  • Within three days guarantor states would have to hold consultations and come to Ukraine's defence
  • Ukraine would be allowed to join the European Union
  • Ukraine would not enter military-political alliances and any international exercises would require consent of guarantor states.
Ukraine's bid to join Nato (and the EU) is enshrined in its 2019 constitution, so any change would require a referendum some months later.”
I dont understand China Italy Israel.
 

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New Weapons From U.S. Could Rearm Ukraine’s Bayraktar Drones

David Hambling, Apr 6, 2022,

The top item in the Pentagon’s latest assistance package to Ukraine announced last week is “laser-guided rocket systems.” This might seem like a curious description, as by convention any rocket with guidance is called a missile. But in the U.S. military ‘guided rocket’ refers to a specific weapon — one that could equip Ukraine's fleet of Bayraktar TB2 drones, which may now be running short of missiles.

The Bayraktar has been one of Ukraine’s surprise successes in fighting the invasion. Against expectation, the Turkish-supplied drones, which resemble a smaller U.S. Predator, have taken a significant toll of Russian vehicles, flying at night and attacking with laser-guided MAM missiles also supplied by Turkey. Russia’s inability to shoot down or jam the Bayraktars is symptomatic of their severe military failings. The success of the Bayraktar has been a huge morale boost to Ukraine; the drone has become an icon of resistance, inspiring popular songs and a slew of memes.
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Ukraine's Bayraktar TB2 drone may be running low
While the Russians now claim to have destroyed 37 out of the Ukrainian fleet of 35 Bayraktars – an impressive 106% kill rate — there is only visual confirmation of three of these and the Bayraktars still seem to be very much in operation. But in recent days fewer videos have appeared of Bayraktar strikes, and more of them acting as artillery observers, finding targets and directing fire. This may be for operational security reasons, but it may reflect a shortage of

Turkey supplied an extra shipment of Bayraktars just before the invasion, but the country is poised uneasily between support for Ukraine and Russia — officials stressed that the drone deal was a private sale by a Turkish company and not military assistance. President Reycep Tayyip Erdogan has said it is impossible for Turkey to join in sanctions against Russia because of his nation’s energy needs.

While other countries have been racing to supply Ukraine with missiles and other weaponry, there have been no announcements of arms supplied by Turkey since the invasion. Russian pressure, or Turkish caution, may have cut the supply of MAM missiles for Bayraktars.
Time perhaps for an alternative weapon. While Ukraine has plenty of Javelins and other anti-tank missiles, these are not suited to air launch and cannot easily be integrated with drones. The U.S. could supply Hellfire missiles, but these weigh twice as much as a MAM and attaching one to a Bayraktar would be like expecting a swallow to carry a coconut.

Fortunately the U.S. has a handy alternative – a lightweight, laser-guided weapon designed to be launched from aircraft. This is the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon II, or APKWS. Just as new guidance kits can convert old dumb bombs into precision weapons, APKWS is an upgrade for the U.S. military’s vast stocks of old 2.75-inch (70 mm) rockets. These 25-pound rockets were originally developed back in the 1940s, carried in pods of seven or nineteen by attack aircraft and helicopters and fired in volleys to blanket an area. They were used extensively in Vietnam; Russian helicopters are still firing pods of similar unguided rockets in Ukraine.
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The APKWS turns standard 2.75" aerial rockets into

The APKWS adds laser guidance in the form of four seeker heads on the rocket’s fins linked to steering. It works with standard laser designators, so the idea is that the operator just highlights the target and the rocket will home in on it with no further technology needed. While simple in theory, completing the APKWS project proved difficult in practice for the company behind it, BAE Systems, with development running to over 16 years and numerous problems before it was successfully fielded in 2012. Because it is a rocket with guidance added later, APKWS is referred to as a guided rocket rather than a missile.

APKWS was used in action by the U.S. Marine Corps in Afghanistan as a lightweight, low-cost alternative to the Hellfire. It has a range of over three miles from a helicopter or seven miles from a fixed-wing aircraft (which can be increased by 30% with a 2021 software upgrade).

APKWS is designed as a plug-and-play system which can be added easily to existing aircraft.

“Because it uses standard launchers, APKWS requires no platform integration or aircraft modifications, and because it is loaded and fired just like a standard 2.75” rocket, very little additional aviator or ordnance crew training is required,” a BAE spokesman told me in a 2012 interview.

The Bayraktar has never fired an APKWS. But according to the maker’s publicity material, it is compatible with the CİRİT Missile made by Turkish company Roketsan. CİRİT is identical in concept to APKWS, being a 2.75” laser guided rocket designed to launch from existing aircraft-mounted rails and pods, and being compatible with NATO standard laser designators.

BAE was unable to discuss the transfer or the possibility of arming Ukraine’s Bayraktars with APKWS, explaining to me that all queries would need to be routed through the U.S. military authorities. (This suggests that the rockets will come from existing stocks so they can be supplied immediately).
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An APKWS with M282 warhead destroys an armored

The APKWS is lighter than the current missile used by Ukrainian Bayraktars and does not carry such a powerful warhead. However, given that they have been mainly used for destroying fuel trucks and anti-aircraft vehicles rather than tanks, they may not require heavy anti-tank missiles.

The lighter weight of the APKWS gives an advantage in load-out: rather than four MAM, a Bayraktar may be able to carry six or more APKWS.

Some are now suggesting that the U.S. should supply Ukraine with Reaper drones. This would require extensive retraining and impose maintenance and logistics requirements. Providing weapons to ensure that the Ukrainian Bayraktars can carry on looks like a good short-term measure, and supplying APKWS may be the best way to do that.
 

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Forget all the rest,Ukrainians will never accept China as guarantor.
Looks like it remains to be Zelensky’s demand, to somehow distribute the load:

”In back-to-back responses to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's security guarantees request in an exclusive interview with Republic TV Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami, China on Thursday stated that it is "not likely" for Beijing to act as Ukraine's security guarantor. However, Beijing will still stand in support of peace talks between Moscow and Kyiv.

This comes after France stepped forward to act as a security guarantor for Ukraine, which will make Paris essentially obligated to provide military assistance in case of an attack by Russia. Notably, French President Emmanuel Macron came on board as a security guarantor after mega Arnab-Zelenskyy interview, where the embattled President stated that Kyiv required guarantees from countries like the US, UK, China, Turkey, Germany, Poland to deter Russian aggression, which has now escalated today 44.

"Security guarantees in talks with Putin could be a parallel process and we should not delay or slow down the dialogue by any meetings. We know some of the countries are ready to extend security guarantees to Ukraine. It would be better before the meeting with the President to have some clear agreements on which countries are ready to make some commitments. Not to have just meetings for the sake of having meetings but to have some specifics. We are ready to have the process in a parallel format so that we won't have to wait until we have the meeting in one or two years. We don't want the war to continue for so long," President Zelenskyy said in the massive interview with Arnab Goswami.”
 

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