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you guys keep responding to his nonsense though. Literally every trick in the propagandist's toolbox being used and people keep engaging it in good faith.
There's a saying about arguing with a fool and how onlookers won't be able to tell the difference.
There's a saying about arguing with a fool and how onlookers won't be able to tell the difference.
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They will need it... everything would be western tech, but they can still play with DIY drones with common consumer parts while their country is on fire.
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Please stay on topic and stop name calling.
Not everyone has to believe in everyone else’s point of view.
If you don’t agree with someone else’s view, you can respond and convey your own views as long as you stay within forum rules.
Because someone is being abusive doesn’t give you the right to do the same. Just report them.
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Not everyone has to believe in everyone else’s point of view.
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Because someone is being abusive doesn’t give you the right to do the same. Just report them.
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A soldier of the Russian PMC Wagner spoke about the battles in Ukraine near Bakhmut. To complete the picture of what is happening, the video of the battles is combined with real videos of the battles of the Ukrainian army in Bakhmut.
Ukraine received about 30 German ZSU "Gepard". The Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft gun was adopted by Germany in 1973, and by 2012 all vehicles were decommissioned due to obsolescence. ZSU "Gepard" is the most complex armored vehicle in Germany, the preparation of its crew of 3 people takes the most time from all German armored vehicles. It is worth noting that now there is a problem with the supply of ammunition for this installation, Germany does not make them anymore. "Gepard" can be compared with the Soviet ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" developed in 1964. In terms of the rate of fire, "Gepard" loses to "Shilka", 550 rounds per minute, the rate of fire of "Shilka" is 3400 rounds. But "Gepard" wins in terms of firing range. Gepard is equipped with a search radar with a target detection and tracking range of up to 18 km. On the sides of the tower, 35-mm automatic guns are installed with a firing range of up to 5 km and a height reach of 4 km. Ammunition installation 340 shells for each gun. Gepard is built on the chassis of the Leopard 1 tank, weighs 47 tons and has a top speed of 65 km/h.
Russian reconnaissance group spoke about the battles in Ukraine and mercenaries
Russian Lancet kamikaze drones have become a problem in Ukraine. The number of cases of strikes by these drones is growing every day. For the first time, a marine target, a Project 58155 Gyurza-M boat of the Ukrainian Navy, was hit by a Lancet drone in Ukraine. The video also shows attacks on the Norwegian self-propelled guns M109A3 of the Ukrainian army, one of them exploded ammunition. A blow to the radar station 36D6-M of the S-300 air defense system of Ukraine. For an unknown reason, the 9K35 Strela-10 air defense system of the Ukrainian army did not notice the Lancet drone and was destroyed, the air defense missiles exploded.
The Italian 155-mm FH-70 howitzers received by the Ukrainian army came under attack from the Russian Lancet kamikaze drone.
Ukraine received about 30 German ZSU "Gepard". The Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft gun was adopted by Germany in 1973, and by 2012 all vehicles were decommissioned due to obsolescence. ZSU "Gepard" is the most complex armored vehicle in Germany, the preparation of its crew of 3 people takes the most time from all German armored vehicles. It is worth noting that now there is a problem with the supply of ammunition for this installation, Germany does not make them anymore. "Gepard" can be compared with the Soviet ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" developed in 1964. In terms of the rate of fire, "Gepard" loses to "Shilka", 550 rounds per minute, the rate of fire of "Shilka" is 3400 rounds. But "Gepard" wins in terms of firing range. Gepard is equipped with a search radar with a target detection and tracking range of up to 18 km. On the sides of the tower, 35-mm automatic guns are installed with a firing range of up to 5 km and a height reach of 4 km. Ammunition installation 340 shells for each gun. Gepard is built on the chassis of the Leopard 1 tank, weighs 47 tons and has a top speed of 65 km/h.
Russian reconnaissance group spoke about the battles in Ukraine and mercenaries
Russian Lancet kamikaze drones have become a problem in Ukraine. The number of cases of strikes by these drones is growing every day. For the first time, a marine target, a Project 58155 Gyurza-M boat of the Ukrainian Navy, was hit by a Lancet drone in Ukraine. The video also shows attacks on the Norwegian self-propelled guns M109A3 of the Ukrainian army, one of them exploded ammunition. A blow to the radar station 36D6-M of the S-300 air defense system of Ukraine. For an unknown reason, the 9K35 Strela-10 air defense system of the Ukrainian army did not notice the Lancet drone and was destroyed, the air defense missiles exploded.
The Italian 155-mm FH-70 howitzers received by the Ukrainian army came under attack from the Russian Lancet kamikaze drone.
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Yes, Russia did suddenly attack Ukraine. If by power struggles you mean Ukrainians chose, surprise, surprise, the EU and the opportunity to become a functional country instead of a shithole like Russia, sure. Doesn't mean Russia had the right to invade Ukraine, unless you have some very, very twisted moral reasoning.
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You are forgetting this is geopolitics.
Strong nations will always invade the weak.
Thats why the USA steamrolled Iraq and Afgahnistan while Russia steamrolled Chechnya and Georgia.
I always said this before. Russia invaded Ukraine as they believed Ukraine was weak and ripe for the taking. Ukrainians were no pushovers they are fighting back and rolling back Russian gains. Also remember the Ukrainians lost Crimea without firing a bullet and a chunk of Donbass. Everybody thought the Ukrainians will fold and buckle and how wrong we were proven. Good on the Ukrainians for fighting back they have every right to fight back against an invasion force.
Difference between Russia and the USA. Russians dont cloak their imperialism with nonsense bs like womens rights, human rights all that crap unlike the USA and its liberal run order.
Dont be surprised if the USA invades a country under the bs pretext of Lbgt rights.
Lbgt rights is now the new form of imperialism.
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Russians could have easily accepted Ukrainians as their Slavic brothers but instead engaged in historical revisionism by calling them fake and artificial.
Russians had so many chances to reconciliate with their Ukrainian brothers.
Russia had so many chances to treat Ukraine as a relationship akin Turkiye and Azerbaijan.
Look how close Turkiye and Azerbaijan are to the point where they consider themselves as one nation while not bickering or even calling each other fake while having many similarities and differences.
No wonder so many Slavic peoples hate Russia.
Because to the Russians the only Slavs are the Russians while the rest are fake. Pan Slavism was just a nice Russian imperialist tool. The Russians alienated their own family members.
Russians had so many chances to reconciliate with their Ukrainian brothers.
Russia had so many chances to treat Ukraine as a relationship akin Turkiye and Azerbaijan.
Look how close Turkiye and Azerbaijan are to the point where they consider themselves as one nation while not bickering or even calling each other fake while having many similarities and differences.
No wonder so many Slavic peoples hate Russia.
Because to the Russians the only Slavs are the Russians while the rest are fake. Pan Slavism was just a nice Russian imperialist tool. The Russians alienated their own family members.
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What could be?
Edit: It comes
It's happening:
Edit: It comes
It's happening:
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Why do they retreat?
Isn't a victory for Russia since no more movement from Ukraine alongside occupied region ?
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Surovikin during the report of Shoigu:
- The situation in the area of the special operation is generally stabilized; - All attempts of offensive actions of the armed forces of Ukraine in the Kupyansk and Krasnolimansky directions were suppressed;
- The combat capabilities of the joint grouping and forces have increased significantly, the combat strength has been increased at the expense of the mobilized, reserves have been created;
- Russian troops resumed offensive operations in certain areas;
- There are street fights on the eastern outskirts of Artemovsk. Surovikin: Kherson and adjacent settlements cannot be fully supplied and function, people's lives are constantly in danger Surovikin: everyone in the Kherson region, and this is more than 115 thousand people, left the combat area
Surovikin: It is proposed to take up defense along the left bank of the Dnieper. Keeping a grouping of troops on the right bank is futile. Shoigu agreed with Surovikin's conclusions and approved the withdrawal of troops to the left bank of the Dnieper
- The situation in the area of the special operation is generally stabilized; - All attempts of offensive actions of the armed forces of Ukraine in the Kupyansk and Krasnolimansky directions were suppressed;
- The combat capabilities of the joint grouping and forces have increased significantly, the combat strength has been increased at the expense of the mobilized, reserves have been created;
- Russian troops resumed offensive operations in certain areas;
- There are street fights on the eastern outskirts of Artemovsk. Surovikin: Kherson and adjacent settlements cannot be fully supplied and function, people's lives are constantly in danger Surovikin: everyone in the Kherson region, and this is more than 115 thousand people, left the combat area
Surovikin: It is proposed to take up defense along the left bank of the Dnieper. Keeping a grouping of troops on the right bank is futile. Shoigu agreed with Surovikin's conclusions and approved the withdrawal of troops to the left bank of the Dnieper
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