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Yes, there are people like that. But at the same time, Russia is sending 100 specialists to Türkiye to HELP. Now tell me, what's more imortant. The opinion of bottom feeders or ACTUAL help?
You mean Ukraine is sending rescuers.
 

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Yes, there are people like that. But at the same time, Russia is sending 100 specialists to Türkiye to HELP. Now tell me, what's more imortant. The opinion of bottom feeders or ACTUAL help?
Please remember, Russian Air force or Ukrainian Air Force bombed and killed 35 Turkish soldiers?


There is a significant difference between two countries towards Türkiye.
 

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Please remember, Russian Air force or Ukrainian Air Force bombed and killed 35 Turkish soldiers?


There is a significant difference between two countries towards Türkiye.
I will never forget what happend to our soldiers back then. But we have to look forward. Türkiye needs help right now and fortunately we get it thanks to all those Nations.
 

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Prediction for amor that will arrive in Ukraine before the fall of 2023, beginning with what has been announced thus far in 2022.

Main Battle Tanks
- 62 M1A2 (USA)
- 80-100 Leopard 1 (German industry)
- 80-100 Leopard 2 (Europe + Canada)
- 150-200 T-72 (Czech Republic + Poland + Morocco)
- 80-100 PT-91 (Poland)
- 14 Challenger 2 (Britain)

Tank Destroyers
- 40-60 AMX10-RC (France)

Infantry Fighting Vehicles
- 200 Bradley M2 (USA)
- 60-80 CV90 (Europe)
- 60-80 Marder (Germany)
- 60-80 BMP-1 and BMP-2 (Europe)

Armoured Personnel Carriers
- 180-200 Stryker (USA)
- 150-200 Bulldog (Britain)
- 100-200 M113s (USA + Europe)
- 150 Kirpi (Turkey)
- 40-50 VAB (France)
- 50 Dingo (Germany)
- 30 Bushmaster (Australia)
- 250-300 Maxxpro and Cougar (USA)

Infantry Mobility Vehicles
- 300-400 HMMWVs (USA + Europe)
- 200 Roshel Senators (Canada)
- 40-50 Bastion (France)
- 100-150 Iveco LMVs (Europe)

Artillery (towed and self propelled)
- 30-50 L118 and L119, 105mm towed howitzers (USA +Europe)
- 20-30 D-30, 122mm towed howitzers (Estonia + Europe)
- 40-50 FH-70, 155mm towed howitzers (Estonia + Europe)
- 19 CAESAR, 155mm self propelled howitzers (Denmark)
- 36 M109A6 Paladin, 155mm self propelled howitzers (USA)
- 20-30 M109, 155mm self propelled howitzers (Europe)
- 30 AS-90, 155mm self propelled howitzers (Britain)
- 12 Archer, 155mm self propelled howitzers (Sweden)
- 10-15 Dana M2, 122mm self propelled howitzers (Czech Republic) - part of a batch ordered in 2022.
- 10-15 Zuzana 2, 155m self propelled howitzers (Slovakia)- Part of a batch ordered in 2022.
- 10-15 Krab, 155mm self propelled howitzers (Poland)- Part of a batch ordered in 2022.

I'm sure I missed some things, but I think this will be the core of the armor and artillery that will arrive in Ukraine between January 1st, 2022 and August 31st, 2022.
dont forget this.

NATO claims to be the Yosemite Sam of alliances but the war in Ukraine is showing what it really is.

1. A bunch of small countries. Their armies number 2,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, they can field 600. They possess 100 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, they can field 40 of them
2. A bunch of medium-size countries. Their armies number 20,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, they can field 6,000. They possess 500 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, they can field 200 of them.
3. One big country. Its army numbers 200,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, it can field 60,000. (Given the enormous number of bases that have to be manned, probably not). It possesses 5,000 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, it can field 2,000 of them. (And this stuff is scattered all over the place). Some of its rulers want to fight Russia, some want to fight Germany and some want to fight China – but they’re sure they can do all three at once.
4. Nobody has more than a month or two of ammunition and, actually, a lot less than that because they’ve give so much to Ukraine and it’s all gone. Somewhere.
5. All this costs more than you can imagine.
6. These countries’ GDPs are the sum of lawyers’ fees, financial flim-flam, fake numbers, real estate commissions, payoffs to politicians and non-stop printing presses. The only one of them that actually makes anything is going bust.
7. “Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”

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This is why Turkey is distancing itself from the west.
 

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I'm saying it again. Especially Turks and Muslims, be careful who you support.
At the moment, the goals of Israel, Azerbaijan and Turkey coincide. The Israelis recently attacked Iran with drones.
Russian fascists have always opposed the Jews, even before the creation of the State of Israel. They staged pogroms in Tsarist Russia from the end of the XIX century, that is, they killed all Jews, including babies. The Russian fascists accused the Jews of the fact that the Jewish communists unleashed the Civil War in Russia in 1917-1922 and killed many Russians, that the Jewish communists created many autonomous and union republics on the site of the Russian Empire, which led to the collapse of Russia.
As for the religious solidarity of the Arabs with the Turks. Were there many Arab protests against China in support of the Uyghurs? Zero in my opinion.
 
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Yesterday I watched an interview with an Israeli army officer fighting on the side of Ukraine. He was born in Bukhara in Uzbekistan, then moved to Israel as a child, then served in the Israeli army for 14 years. Participated in the Lebanese war-2.
He says that he already foresaw a Russian attack on Ukraine, although his wife did not believe him. Feels no remorse when he kills Russian soldiers. Participates in sabotage actions against Russia, lays mines or participates in raids. He says he is ready to die for Ukraine. For him, it is very regrettable that Russia is killing civilians. When they fought in Lebanon, they never killed a single civilian. He says that the majority of Israelis are opposed to Russia.
 

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Yesterday I watched an interview with an Israeli army officer fighting on the side of Ukraine. He was born in Bukhara in Uzbekistan, then moved to Israel as a child, then served in the Israeli army for 14 years. Participated in the Lebanese war-2.
He says that he already foresaw a Russian attack on Ukraine, although his wife did not believe him. Feels no remorse when he kills Russian soldiers. Participates in sabotage actions against Russia, lays mines or participates in raids. He says he is ready to die for Ukraine. For him, it is very regrettable that Russia is killing civilians. When they fought in Lebanon, they never killed a single civilian. He says that the majority of Israelis are opposed to Russia.
what a crazy timeline we live in to see neo-Nazis as heroes, hell even the west entirely ignores what the zionist regime does to middle eastern neighbors. I guess it sucks Ukraine won't be Zelensky's greater Israel.

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I am surprised BBC has not taken this video down yet.

 

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Poland will train 2 battalions of Ukrainian soldiers each month moving forward. This initiative, which was announced today by the Polish Defense Minister, is part of a massive effort to train train Ukrainian soldiers abroad in 2023 and send them back to Ukraine with western fighting kit and in some cases, specialized skills sets.

- U.K. led, multinational mission, will train 20,000 Ukrainians troops in 2023.
- USA will train 500 Ukrainian troops per month (6000 in 2023) at their training base in Germany.
- EU has announced a multi national effort to train 30,000 Ukrainian troops in multiple countries in 2023.
- Lithuania will train 1500 Ukrainians troops in the early part of 2023, with aid from the EU and the UK.

Approximately 60,000 Ukrainians troops will be trained outside of Ukraine in 2023.


 

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Please remember, Russian Air force or Ukrainian Air Force bombed and killed 35 Turkish soldiers?


There is a significant difference between two countries towards Türkiye.

and then they refused to open syrian airspace at the time to allow Turkish helicopters in to rescue the injured, only for them to later fire on the ambulances that arrived in the area. Russians bombing ambulances to tend to the wounded is typically degenerate Russian character and behaviour.

It fascinates me how quickly Turkish people forget, our enemies not only never forget but they are brainwashed to make a mountain out a molehill, then when the same people murder Turks, its forgotten by next week.

At least the Turkish army never forget as witnessed with the TB2 footage over Ukraine being released on the year 2 year anniversary of the event.

Also concerning the Russian team thats being sent i hope its watched over, i can see Russians torturing victims or if they find them then pretending no one is trapped in the building. And i'm not joking, we seen to much of the Russian character to give it any benefit of the doubt.
 

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At the moment, the goals of Israel, Azerbaijan and Turkey coincide. The Israelis recently attacked Iran with drones.
Russian fascists have always opposed the Jews, even before the creation of the State of Israel. They staged pogroms in Tsarist Russia from the end of the XIX century, that is, they killed all Jews, including babies. The Russian fascists accused the Jews of the fact that the Jewish communists unleashed the Civil War in Russia in 1917-1922 and killed many Russians, that the Jewish communists created many autonomous and union republics on the site of the Russian Empire, which led to the collapse of Russia.
As for the religious solidarity of the Arabs with the Turks. Were there many Arab protests against China in support of the Uyghurs? Zero in my opinion.

You know there was a time when i looked into the claim that the bolsheviks/communists were predominately jews. I remember discovering something along the lines that the top 100 involved in the revolution only about 13 were jews.
 

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dont forget this.

NATO claims to be the Yosemite Sam of alliances but the war in Ukraine is showing what it really is.

1. A bunch of small countries. Their armies number 2,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, they can field 600. They possess 100 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, they can field 40 of them
2. A bunch of medium-size countries. Their armies number 20,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, they can field 6,000. They possess 500 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, they can field 200 of them.
3. One big country. Its army numbers 200,000 but, taking wokeness, diversity, recruiting shortfalls, pregnancy leave and physical fitness into account, it can field 60,000. (Given the enormous number of bases that have to be manned, probably not). It possesses 5,000 major weapons but, taking incompetent storage, broken parts and maintenance problems into account, it can field 2,000 of them. (And this stuff is scattered all over the place). Some of its rulers want to fight Russia, some want to fight Germany and some want to fight China – but they’re sure they can do all three at once.
4. Nobody has more than a month or two of ammunition and, actually, a lot less than that because they’ve give so much to Ukraine and it’s all gone. Somewhere.
5. All this costs more than you can imagine.
6. These countries’ GDPs are the sum of lawyers’ fees, financial flim-flam, fake numbers, real estate commissions, payoffs to politicians and non-stop printing presses. The only one of them that actually makes anything is going bust.
7. “Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”

By Helmholtz Smith

This is why Turkey is distancing itself from the west.
Ha, we are getting on the bottom of things. Sort of, within the limits of opponents, of course. I appreciate this and would love others to join. Ru- Uk war is dictationg the dilemma, but lets not be limited with that and Türkiye is offering interesting alternative indeed.

So, Russian superior societal order versus rotten Western world. I have been lucky to grow up within socialist system, applied by Russia. Russia: mainly a rural country, rushed through industrial age to become one of the strongest nuclear powers and tryed to shortcut into communism without wasting time for capitalism. Failed by doing so and now successfully built up neo-agrarian empire with aristocrats (oligarchs), state aristocrats (governmental officials, army, security etc) and slaves (non-oligarchs, to be consumed by aristocrats in any way, using freely given reasons like war in Ukraine). Still obsessed with its military might and ideas of ruling the world, behaving accordingly.

Now I live in capitalism: an indiviualist consumer society where everything can be bought and winner is the one who has purchased most items before the death. Social order -democracy- considered to be the worst one except everything else. Under the flag of personal freedom attacks traditional ways of life, undermining by this its own existance. Visibly fragile and not stable but loaded with unpredictable potential if pushed out from comfort zone. Constantly struggling internally to find the best format for success. Focused inward, aimed to quarantee the well-being of their own citizens, thus significanlty less agressive compared to authoritarian states and lenient to spend on military- unless it is absolutely necessary.

Sure, there are plusses and minuses in each side and if we talk about religion-like belief, there is no argument strong enough to overthrow this. What we can do here is to acknowledge of the shades of gray or even colours between black and white. Come on, nobody is perfectly good and perfectly bad. the division line is within us and it moves depending from time and circumstances: today I am father, heping to create a new life; tomorrow a soldier in the battlefield and taking lives. Shortly, we are not god-like perfect creatures and making mistakes building up whatever type of society.

So, from where Russians collect their confidence to decide over other nations and force their lifestyle upon? What are the arguments, leaving religious ones out? Religious paradigmas are not enforced by simple mortals like us, thus not arguable.
 
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