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I actually feel bad for a lot of these Russian soldiers we've seen to this point. In many ways the Russian military is pretty advanced, however, the Russian army (despite its size) still operates in poverty. Most of these guys are improperly fed, carrying expired rations, 40 year old weapons, and they travel in squalor. For their sake, I wish their country would send their sons to war with quality kit at least.
 

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Look at the map,Azerbaijan(should be neutral) is against,Türkmenistan is neutral.

At the UN,both neutral.
You mean undeclared.
U delete what u want but the truth is never changed , I hate Both Russia and US but in Ukraine , Russia have right to liberate them. I am agasit Russia military on Syria , Brasil , azerbaijan but not in Ukrainerus ,or Belarus ,Aslo US can Invade (Canada , Australia how many times it wants , i dont have problem , i support them there , u are on wrong side on this by massive west zionist TV prapaganda 🤦‍♂️
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You are right in many points. But this is not an entitlement to invade Ukraine.
 

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Ukraine Update. Day 7. Part II.

Kiev.

Little Russian activity apart from sporadically shelling the Ukrainian capital, regrouping and bringing in reinforcements and supplies from the North. Local Ukrainian counter-attack South West of the city, probably in the direction of the P04 road.

Kharkiv.

Heavy shelling. The Russian army is bringing in more artillery and armour. The second largest Ukrainian city is now boxed in on three sides by Russian troops. Successful local Ukrainian counter-attack South East of Kharkiv toward the Russian border (in order to keep the last route of escape out of Kharkiv open).

Horvilka.

Successful local Ukrainian attack towards the town of Horvilka, in the Donetsk breakaway republic. Horvilka has been at the hands of Donetsk Separatists since 2014. Some reports say Ukrainian troops retreated back to the suburbs, others say they are digging-in.

Enerhodar-Vasylivka.

Russian troops have taken Enerhodar. Fighting has broken out on the outskirts of Vasylivka. They are less than 50km from Zaporizhzhia. Taking those two towns would ensure the Russians control most of the main supply roads leading towards Mariupol. It would also bring them one step closer to Dnipro and then Poltava. Should they succeed in doing so, they would have fulfilled their (obvious) goal of cutting Ukraine in two along a rough North-South axis.

The Russians now control over 280km along the Eastern/Southern bank of the Dnieper river.

Nikolayev.

Russian troops are still pushing toward Nikolayev (Mykolaiv). VDV might be involved. Little progress made in that direction, most of their efforts seem to have been directed at consolidating their bridgehead across the Dnieper (Kherson, Nova Khakovka), consolidating South of Kherson and bringing in reinforcements.

Summary.

The Ukrainian army has executed three small counter-attacks, today. Those local successes will be good for the morale of their troops. Looking at the big picture, they are fighting well but are losing ground overall.
The Russian army seemed to have dedicated the day to regrouping, resupplying and bringing in reinforcements to the front line, including troops, armour and heavy artillery. The Russian army seems to have somewhat reverted to type in its approach to warfare, although BTGs are still not fighting as whole units and artillery and air support are still lagging behind, along with their ISR tools (UAVs/Drones). Things could change in the next few days.

Konotop and Kharkiv seem to have both received a Russian ultimatum of sorts.
Russian and Ukrainian hardware losses.

Oryx has created a database of destroyed, captured and abandoned Russian and Ukrainian vehicles. Here are some point of interests.

Tanks: Russia-54 (17 destroyed), Ukraine-19 (6 destroyed).
AFVs: Russia-51 (19 destroyed), Ukraine-24 (6 destroyed).
IFVs: Russia-62 (18 destroyed), Ukraine-20 (8 destroyed).
APCs: Russia-24 (9 destroyed), Ukraine-10 (1 destroyed).
SPGs: Russia-10 (2 destroyed), Ukraine-6 (2 destroyed).
MRLS: Russia-11 (4 destroyed), Ukraine-0
SAMs: Russia-17 (8 destroyed), Ukraine-6 (6 destroyed).
Aircraft: Russia-3 (3 destroyed), Ukraine-5 (5 destroyed).
Helicopters: Russia-6 (4 destroyed), Ukraine-0
Radars: Russia-0, Ukraine-5 (3 destroyed).

Oryx usually stay away from any propaganda and are a reliable source. They did a sterling job covering the Syrian conflict. Their database is updated daily.

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I actually feel bad for a lot of these Russian soldiers we've seen to this point. In many ways the Russian military is pretty advanced, however, the Russian army (despite its size) still operates in poverty. Most of these guys are improperly fed, carrying expired rations, 40 year old weapons, and they travel in squalor. For their sake, I wish their country would send their sons to war with quality kit at least.
You live in dream world.
The facts are that russian always use propaganda to show off foreigns.
Also this goes with more high level propaganda to russians themself.
And when they go to war which require big number of soilders then and ONLY THEN ALL which do not know russians able to SEE Real state of russians mil and not only that almost all russian products are outdated junks.
There is let say 5-10% of russian HIGH Prio products which are also Military which most of us will not see that LET SAY could be comapreable with WEST or others
 

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Our present government simply had no alternative but to tapdance their way out of an extremely awkward situation. It is not statesmanship, it is the survival instinct - nothing wrong with having one, of course.
  1. Russia is an overwhelming source of arms and ammunition for us, and it is well-known that Russian equipment requires major maintenance and upkeep. Alienating Russia is a sure way of cutting off the stream of supplies and spare parts.
  2. Not siding with Russia will also guarantee a closer understanding between Russia and China and Pakistan.
  3. Russia admittedly has counter-pressures, and will normally have been happy to keep the supplies flowing. It remains to be seen how much they need to block their production for replacement of battle attrition.
  4. Siding with Russia will surely annoy the west.
  5. Siding with Russia will not get her out of the China-Pakistan favouring zone.
Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

It all becomes lot easier to understand when you understand what the percentage split is between transactional approach is vs the moral approach in foreign policy....and just how heavily skewed this is in favour of the former (though in the powers that be, the latter is attempted to be conveyed as the actual standard.... to the attentions of the people watching some particular event/reality).

The former is far more easier to be consistent on to begin with....and also that is most well understood by the affected relevant population keeping tabs and records of their country's history....in ways that outsiders (as well intended and well read they may be) simply do not at same intensity.
 

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So @Michael Corleone, the Bangladeshi youngster who studied MBBS in the Ukraine, and seemed to have
It all becomes lot easier to understand when you understand what the percentage split is between transactional approach is vs the moral approach in foreign policy....and just how heavily skewed this is in favour of the former (though in the powers that be, the latter is attempted to be conveyed as the actual standard.... to the attentions of the people watching some particular event/reality).
Ideally, one should be British, and remain a complete moral void, in terms of Sir Humphrey Appleby's approving prescription for qualification for decision-making positions.

But the British themselves managed in the most bewildering sleight of hand to convince most people that the moral imperative was what compelled them to act.

Amazing!
 

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The US didn't take 4 years to destroy Iraq or Afghanistan. Both Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were crushed within weeks and unlike what's happening here with Russia, where their logistics are completely screwed and their soldiers don't even know what the fuck they're doing, the US took minimal casualties and did everything with a high level of efficiency.

People keep confusing America's misplaced "peace keeping" missions in Iraq and Afghanistan where the US was trying to "westernize" two nations that absolutely did not wish to be westernized with America's ability to curbstomp its enemies into dust. This is why everyone who uses the "haha, you lost in Afghanistan/Vietnam/etc" card is an idiot, because they don't know the difference between political victory and military victory. The modern US military has suffered plenty of political defeats. It has yet to suffer a military one.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a video of Ukrainians scoring a hit on a Tu (or at least it looked like it) but I haven't seen SU-57s in action yet. I'll try and find it.

Consider also that this is a close brother war.... last one US fought like that at scale was arguably WW2.

Brother war adds a real murky dimension that more alien-tribe wars do not surface as much....this allowed leeway for US in recent foreign wars it got into...and somewhat similar with how Russia did so in Syria.

This is getting out of the overall spending, investment, development US has done with its military compared to Russia (which is different larger subject to get into)....and we see an amount of that materialising right now with the Russian campaign so far.

Anyway what I'm getting at is if the US and Canada were ever at war again hypothetically (given it has happened....many people dont read that far back in depth though)... the US whatever extreme political insularity driving such a thing (since its the bigger bro by far).....would have appreciable harder time with dictating in pristine way to its actual soldiers on the ground (and larger citizenry) like it could much further away in world....and which it has demonstrated recently at some scale and consequence which is again another larger subject to get into.

It was in WW2, russians and ukrainians spilled so much blood together in the end....a blood pact was made on that soil....

It is disturbing seeing the same names of towns and cities come up now....and that blood pact is dishonoured so much...taking of actual human life at this scale...

It shows the extreme stupidity that has been allowed to develop (unchallenged) in a concentration of an insular power around Putin.

Larger russia will awaken to this painfully and maybe slowly....and definitely somewhat rudely compared to how its been.

Larger Russia will have to take action on it....that is what insular power-Russia has not factored in to degree it should have.

How much of ukraine is sacrificed at altar in the interim, that remains to be seen....these are all very vast unknown grey variables at play.

How very sad.
 

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The former is far more easier to be consistent on to begin with....and also that is most well understood by the affected relevant population keeping tabs and records of their country's history....in ways that outsiders (as well intended and well read they may be) simply do not at same intensity.
This is clear. However, there is a calculus of blind expectations from a nanny state, propped up against a suspicion of that nanny state. I suspect every generation faces this problem.
 

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