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Tactical retreat from Ukraine side?
They are tired Mado, the loses of Ukraine also high. Russian can do the attack all over the years. Now it's a more leaning to stalemate. All of your assessment on how Russian will fall will only ended up in vain, Russia make worth 1 billion € each day, yet they still posses great manpower & munitions.

While Ukraine still in desperate need both in manpower and guns, thus why Zelensky still crying for help. Only, if only Ukraine got the best support and state of the art weaponry they can push Russian pre 2014 border.

As a milestone, Kherson in heavily defended right now, back then its very easy to took regain occupied area from Russia but now Russian has learn. To dig in defense but slowly gain soil.


Thus why, such precise artillery to the back of enemy line is pivotal for this upcoming clashes.
 
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People are wondering why Ukrainians fighting so hard compared to the Afghans who surrendered to the Taliban.

Because one has a national identity and other is a society rife with tribalism and clans.

Thats why Afghanistan is not a nation because it has different ethnic groups so many times people tried to centre kabul while average rural person has no allegiance to kabul but to his tribe or clan.
 

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They are tired mado, the resources of Ukraine also high. Russian can do the attack all over the years. Now it's a more leaning to stalemate. All of your accessment on how Russian will fall will only ended up in vain, Russia make worth 1 billion € each day, yet they still posses great manpower & munitions.

While Ukraine still in desperate need both in manpower and guns, thus why Zelensky still crying for help. Only, if only Ukraine got the best support and state of the art weaponery they can push Russian pre 2014 border.

As a milestone, Kherson in heavily deffended right now, back then its very easy to took regain occupied area from Russia but now Russian has learn. To dig in deffence but slowly gain soil.


Thus why, such precise artilery to tha back of enemy line is pivotal for this upcoming clashes.
as i said before, if ukraine want to win this war fast, they need the donated hardwares operating right now, but i assume it will in full ready combat mid may until early june, so ukraine just buying time, try anything to slowly the russian movements confirmed with bayraktar kamikaze attacks deep into russian soil targeting logistics. what mado said make sense. but it will cost a lot to ukraine doing such thing until the new hardwares ready for combat. in the end of course russian wil gets very headache when ukraine fully gears up
 
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They are tired mado, the resources of Ukraine also high. Russian can do the attack all over the years. Now it's a more leaning to stalemate. All of your accessment on how Russian will fall will only ended up in vain, Russia make worth 1 billion € each day, yet they still posses great manpower & munitions.

While Ukraine still in desperate need both in manpower and guns, thus why Zelensky still crying for help. Only, if only Ukraine got the best support and state of the art weaponery they can push Russian pre 2014 border.

As a milestone, Kherson in heavily deffended right now, back then its very easy to took regain occupied area from Russia but now Russian has learn. To dig in deffence but slowly gain soil.


Thus why, such precise artilery to tha back of enemy line is pivotal for this upcoming clashes.

Russian would be and already bled, the attrition rates for any of their major system is unhealthy, they increasingly can't replaced the already used equipment especially sophisticated weaponry like tanks, precision guided munition, attacks helicopters and fighter would be very difficult to come unless they come with early cold war standard relic, and you can see they even bringing outdated Bm21 Grad from 70-80' s production line into combat or already put into services combat T72 AV from mid cold war serial production. Back then during early 2014-2015 war, the area around Slovianks, whole Donbass and even Mariupol is under separatist and Russian occupation even at the time Ukraine doesn't have much support like today and almost all of Russian speaker in the eastern Ukraine has symphaty over rebels but Ukraine army still can retake those Cities and land area back in 2015-2016 offensive. Today though Russian itself commited here, they can't Made much progress while the bulks of Ukraine army still in Kiev and Sumy theater. Ukraine can and afford to do strategic retreat, and most likely to do so. They trade space for time and opportunity, just like in Kiev theater. Luring Russian deep into the steppe during early spring season with rains and muds (rasputsista). And attacked their flanks and logistic background.

Russian manpower itself is not necessarily large and unexhausted, contrary to popular belief. They had one of the highest median age population in the world with population over 44 years old contributed too much of their population around 41 percentage of their total population. Meanwhile Putin itself can't draw much of their working population into the war efforts if he still want to retain some economies balance between pensioner and working population as Russia state budget already burdened by high number of pension, their oil money is important to give pension for their old population. And as i said before Russian most likely only able to afford the war between six month to a year time if they want to maintain the current tempo, but if they want total war with total mobilization that's different matter. But they can't afford that for the long run campaign.

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Russian can make worth 1 Billion euro per day, and to run oil and gas industry still need daily Capital injection worth hundred million Euros. And as a Nation they need money and burn money more faster compared to other countries as they under heavy sanction, import already expensive especially for basic necessity, macro and micro economy progress already taking toll there. The Ukraine move to targeting Russian oil refinery and other gas infrastructure in the Russian Cities around the Border put more pressure into Russian war efforts.
 

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These people.......man, peak delusion isn't even going to start to describe them....

They make memri tv seem rational and grounded....Good lord


Putin always uses the "nuclear card" when he feels trapped or cornered, he used it a few times against Turkey when he felt Turkey was about to enter Syria and go into direct conflict with Russia, his various mouth pieces talked about using tactical nukes against Turkey.

But as time goes on and this nuclear talk becomes more retarded from the russian state mouth pieces, its becoming clear to me that the Russians don't actually have the balls to use nuclear weapons knowing it means the end of Russia. I think these shows are meant to be picked up in the west to create the illusion that Russia will use them to try and curtail western support for Ukraine.

At this point its a broken record, the mad Russians have threatened to use nuclear weapons so often now that i think most people have become numb to it. If they use them, well its end the Russia and I doubt the corrupt billionaires who own Russia and live a playboy lifestyle in the west want to die.

But all this mind numbing talk from them where they play the victim and everyone else is a right wing fascist or a hitler supporting nazi, its just ridiculous. The idea that common people in the world can sympathise with all this nonsense is crazy.
 

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Why are ppl surprised with such news for God's sake
By March 9, a referendum will occur and Kherson will officially be Russian territory; I wonder how ppl will react by then

The rumors of Russia switching to rubles was known for the last 3 weeks; yet ppl get surprised every single time something like this happens. The Russian playbook is old, over-used, predictable, and open to all. It is just that countries prefer to close their eyes in order to not get involved in the war..... a prime example is Germany
 

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Shelling in the Luhansk region: 4 dead
April 28, 2022, 08:58

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Russian troops shelled Luhansk region 29 times last day



As a result of Russian attacks on Popasnaya, Lisichansk and the Gorskaya community, two dozen houses were destroyed.

Russian troops shelled the settlements of the Lugansk region 29 times a day, four people were killed and four more were injured. This was announced on April 28 by the head of the regional military administration Sergei Gaidai.

He clarified that the enemy used aviation, multiple launch rocket systems, cannon artillery and mortar weapons.
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"The enemy shelled Popasnaya and Lisichansk ten times each, but very long times - the Mountain community. In the morning it became known about ten more destroyed houses in Popasna. Yesterday morning, a 58-year-old local resident died in Gorsky, who went out into the courtyard near his house and did not have time to hide from the fire of the Russians, in Severodonetsk - an 85-year-old woman, in Novodruzhesk and Lisichansk - two people. Four more people were injured of varying severity," Gaidai emphasized.

Earlier, the head of the OVA said that 13 residential buildings were destroyed as a result of the shelling of Lisichansk.
 
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Russian forces must be expelled from Crimea - London
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In Britain, they believe that Ukraine needs to be armed to such an extent that it can completely liberate its territories in Crimea and the Donbass.

During the current war, Ukraine must liberate its territories in the Crimea and Donbass, and the West will help with weapons and sanctions against Russia. This was stated by British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss, reports The Times.

She urged Western countries to help Ukraine completely withdraw Russian troops from Ukraine and said that if Russian President Vladimir Putin succeeded in achieving territorial gains, he could cause "incalculable new suffering throughout Europe."

"This is an all-out war, because a Ukrainian victory is a strategic imperative for all of us," Truss said.

She stressed that Russian troops should be expelled during the war, including from Crimea and the Donbas "republics".

Regarding weapons, Truss said that "we need to look deeper into our stocks, we need to increase production" so that Ukraine gets the heavy weapons, tanks and aircraft it needs.

In addition, according to Truss, the West should help build the defense capabilities of Moldova and Georgia, since Putin could invade these countries as well.

With regard to Russia, according to the head of the British Foreign Office, it is necessary to use all available economic levers to oust the country from Western markets.

Truss also stressed that it is necessary to deprive Putin of the opportunity to declare his victory in Ukraine and "use this war as a catalyst to establish a new world order."

At the same time, Truss acknowledged that the war in Ukraine could last "up to five years or even a decade," and Putin could use weapons of mass destruction in a desperate attempt to break the deadlock.
 

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🪖 Operational information of the General Staff as of 06:00 on April 28, 2022 regarding the Russian invasion

▪️ The enemy increases the pace of the offensive operation. In almost all directions, the Russian occupiers are exerting intense fire. The greatest activity is observed in Slobozhansky and Donetsk directions.

▪️ In the Slobozhansky direction, the enemy group continues to strike and fire artillery on the city of Kharkiv.

▪️ The main efforts of the occupiers are focused on the Izium direction. The enemy is trying to launch an offensive in the directions of Sulyhivka - Nova Dmytrivka and Andriivka - Velyka Komyshuvakha.

▪️ In order to strengthen the advancing group, the occupiers additionally moved airborne units and up to 500 units of equipment to the city of Izyum.

▪️ In the Donetsk direction, the enemy group continues to take active action on the line of contact. The main efforts are focused on surrounding the Defense Forces.

▪️ To achieve this goal, in the Lyman direction, the enemy has improved its tactical position, trying to develop an offensive on the village of Lyman. The invaders are carrying out preparatory measures for forcing the Seversky Donets River.

▪️ In the Severodonetsk direction, the enemy is attacking the settlement of Orikhove.

▪️ In the Avdiivka direction, in order to capture Marinka and Ocheretin, the enemy exerts intense fire.

▪️In the Kurakhiv direction, with the support of artillery, the occupiers are conducting an offensive in the directions of Staromayorske - Velyka Novosilka and Lyubimivka - Zelene Pole.
 

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People are wondering why Ukrainians fighting so hard compared to the Afghans who surrendered to the Taliban.

Because one has a national identity and other is a society rife with tribalism and clans.

Thats why Afghanistan is not a nation because it has different ethnic groups so many times people tried to centre kabul while average rural person has no allegiance to kabul but to his tribe or clan.

Taliban is the right pre government of Afghanistan.. The Afgan government of occupiers were just a puppet regime.. It has no ground except some US paid trolls and westernized rainbow youth..

You can't compare the battle proven Taliban with them

The puppet regime of Afghanistan can only be compared if there would be a puppet regime of Russia in Ukraine..

No the Taliban are the ones like the ukrainians fighting for their own country and not a American version of it..

And that is why they are successful they know for what they are fighting like the Ukrainians know defending homeland, knowing what comes if they loose
 

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Putin always uses the "nuclear card" when he feels trapped or cornered, he used it a few times against Turkey when he felt Turkey was about to enter Syria and go into direct conflict with Russia, his various mouth pieces talked about using tactical nukes against Turkey.

But as time goes on and this nuclear talk becomes more retarded from the russian state mouth pieces, its becoming clear to me that the Russians don't actually have the balls to use nuclear weapons knowing it means the end of Russia. I think these shows are meant to be picked up in the west to create the illusion that Russia will use them to try and curtail western support for Ukraine.

Yeah, right now it's all talk, the situation isn't desperate enough yet. But after 6 months of attrition? A year? When its obvious to everyone that the russian army can't fulfil its mission? Before this war everyone was convinced that Russia had developed other "tools" to achieve ambitions. Europe's reliance on natural gas gave Russia an economical weapon, they showed off a ton of wunderwaffen and everyone was scared shitless of the Armata. The russian airforce seemed to be catching up and they were getting more aggressive in their patrolling.

Now, all those tools we assumed they had were either a house of cards or is becoming rapidly depleted. They have already lost something along the lines of 20-25% of their tanks, their airforce is plowing fields in Ukraine and they are transforming their surface fleet into a submarine force. Cutting off gas to bulgaria and poland only made the voices in europe that want energy independence stronger. What happens when you run out of other weapons with which to fight your war? I'm not saying this is something that would happen tomorrow, but the longer the war goes on, and the more obviously desperate the situation becomes for russia the more likely it is that they are going to do something incredibly stupid. In addition, it's all about what Putin *believes* the west is capable of. Now, those assumptions have obviously been hit-and-miss in the past, so who knows how much of a gamble he is willing to take.

At this point its a broken record, the mad Russians have threatened to use nuclear weapons so often now that i think most people have become numb to it. If they use them, well its end the Russia and I doubt the corrupt billionaires who own Russia and live a playboy lifestyle in the west want to die.


Probably wouldn't be any playboy billionaires left in russia at that point, they would leave well before then. Even though they can't affect putins decisions, they didn't get where they are today without being pretty savvy kremlinologists.
 
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