Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Relic]

So just a recap of some of Western equipment that has been announced for Ukraine recently, and / or is expected to be announced for Ukraine in the next couple weeks.

50x Bradley M2 IFVs (USA)
40x Marder IFVs (Germany)
12x Challenger 2 MBTs (Britain)
12-14x Leopard 2A4 MBTs (Poland)
18x M109A6 Paladin, 155mm self-propelled howitzers (USA)
12x Archer, 155mm self-propelled howitzers (Sweden)
36x 105mm, towed howitzers (USA)
100x M113 APCs (USA)
138x HMMWVs (USA)
Unknown number of AMX-10 RC tank destroyers (France)
Unknown number of Stryker APCs (USA)

That's a nice uptick in equipment and resources, as Ukraine looks to move further away from the Soviet equipment that they are running out of ammunition and spare parts for. Looking ahead, here is additional equipment that is going to be required in the next couple months, in order for Ukraine to continue the transition.

150x Bradley M2 IVFs (USA)
150x Leopard 2 A4/5/6 MBTs (Europe + Canada)
150x T-72 MBTs (Czech upgraded, funded by USA + Netherlands and Morocco)
36x M109, 155mm self propelled howitzers (USA + Europe)
12x Panzerhaubitze 2000, self propelled howitzers (already purchased from Germany)
200x Strykers (USA + Canada)
250x M117 APCs (already purchased by USA)
20x Bushmaster APCs (Australia)
150x Kirpi APCs (already promised from Turkey)

That would help Ukraine into the spring and early summer months.

 

[MaciekRS]

It is not just about the tanker, there are stuff too like logistic and maintenance.

Maintenance that is not on the first line is not a great problem. You can find a volunteers who know that stuff and will do it for money in some safe place.

 

[bisbis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613122244380704768

so bitter, the result of trusting the west!

 

[blackjack]

UPA? No, its Russia.
During WWII my grandgrandfather and my grandfather was taken prisoners by Germans. Well, both came back from the war, my grandfather even with my grandmother (she was taken as a forced labour to Germany from today Belarus in 41).
From the other side of my family 2 of my grandmother brothers was taken prisoners by soviets in 39. Both died from shot in the head in 1940. Yeah, its russia, kill prisoner who wasnt even fighting against soviets by shot in a head in Katyn.

And then there was 1944. There was a front in the place where my grandparents live (close to Vistula), Germans was cruel but then russians came as a horde of barbarians killing, raping, looting.
And all these stories I heard from my grandparents are coming back when I see russian troops in Ukraine. Nothing has change in them for the last 70 years. Its still soviet army from the 40s, horde of barbarians killing, raping and looting.

Alright based on this response I can narrow two things down. 1. you're a Ukrainian that is taking refuge in Poland. 2. You grew up in a special education program in Poland considering your historical claims. UPA stands for Ukrainian insurgent army and the founder was Bandera a Polish Jew why are you saying its Russia? Volyhynia and east galicia according to polish claims 100k have died which most were elderly, women and children there are plenty of graphic photos of the massacre where they were all tortured to death. Now I have no idea if Ukraine ever apologized for what they did but the Russians did apologize and acknowledged that Katyn happened which was polish massacre of killing 22,000 officers. Please do tell me how torturing 100,000 polish civilians to death is far better than shooting 22,000 men

 

[Nilgiri]

You might find this one interesting about ole smokey @Anmdt et al.

 

[blackjack]

After more 8 months of crazy offensive Russians finally managed to reach the Bakhmutka river (almost). Meanwhile Ukrainians liberated huge chunks of land in Kharkiv and Kherson.

Dont forget the part that 65,000 Ukrainians fought to hold Bakhmut against a smaller Wagner force and that ukraine is coping that they are still defending Soledar. even when they are no longer in the city. and when ukrainians made land liberation happen the Russians have successfully retreated to the point that Julian Ropke said where are the destroyed Russian equipment when Ukraine grabbed Kherson? Worst yet Ukrainian generals suggested retreat from Soledar and Bakhmut but their leadership suggested to still fight resulting in unnecessary high casualties which they could have saved those bodies for future operations.

They made the bold claim in Ukrainian televisions. that from now on not one Ukrainian city will be captured by Russia so I guess it will look bad if Russia does take Bakhmut but because of pride, but these stupid choices will now result in deaths that could have better been used elsewhere.

Edit: more to expect.

 

[Nilgiri]

So just a recap of some of Western equipment that has been announced for Ukraine recently, and / or is expected to be announced for Ukraine in the next couple weeks.

50x Bradley M2 IFVs (USA)
40x Marder IFVs (Germany)
12x Challenger 2 MBTs (Britain)
12-14x Leopard 2A4 MBTs (Poland)
18x M109A6 Paladin, 155mm self-propelled howitzers (USA)
12x Archer, 155mm self-propelled howitzers (Sweden)
36x 105mm, towed howitzers (USA)
100x M113 APCs (USA)
138x HMMWVs (USA)
Unknown number of AMX-10 RC tank destroyers (France)
Unknown number of Stryker APCs (USA)

That's a nice uptick in equipment and resources, as Ukraine looks to move further away from the Soviet equipment that they are running out of ammunition and spare parts for. Looking ahead, here is additional equipment that is going to be required in the next couple months, in order for Ukraine to continue the transition.

150x Bradley M2 IVFs (USA)
150x Leopard 2 A4/5/6 MBTs (Europe + Canada)
150x T-72 MBTs (Czech upgraded, funded by USA + Netherlands and Morocco)
36x M109, 155mm self propelled howitzers (USA + Europe)
12x Panzerhaubitze 2000, self propelled howitzers (already purchased from Germany)
200x Strykers (USA + Canada)
250x M117 APCs (already purchased by USA)
20x Bushmaster APCs (Australia)
150x Kirpi APCs (already promised from Turkey)

That would help Ukraine into the spring and early summer months.

It also seems the UK will be sending 30 AS90 artillery guns shortly after sending the Challenger tanks:

UK government: “UK defence and security officials believe a window has opened up where Russia is on the backfoot due to resupply issues and plummeting morale. The Prime Minister is therefore encouraging allies to deploy their planned support for 2023 as soon as possible”

UK government: “Sending Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine is the start of a gear change in the UK’s support. A squadron of 14 tanks will go into the country in the coming weeks …Around 30 AS90s, which are large, self-propelled guns, operated by five gunners, are expected to follow”

 

[Gary]

It also seems the UK will be sending 30 AS90 artillery guns shortly after sending the Challenger tanks:

The AS90 has the same turret as the Krab no?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613122244380704768

so bitter, the result of trusting the west!

All I see is pro Kremlin bitterness, Ukraine air defense has never been so good.

Dont forget the part that 65,000 Ukrainians fought to hold Bakhmut against a smaller Wagner force and that ukraine is coping that they are still defending Soledar. even when they are no longer in the city. and when ukrainians made land liberation happen the Russians have successfully retreated to the point that Julian Ropke said where are the destroyed Russian equipment when Ukraine grabbed Kherson? Worst yet Ukrainian generals suggested retreat from Soledar and Bakhmut but their leadership suggested to still fight resulting in unnecessary high casualties which they could have saved those bodies for future operations.

They made the bold claim in Ukrainian televisions. that from now on not one Ukrainian city will be captured by Russia so I guess it will look bad if Russia does take Bakhmut but because of pride, but these stupid choices will now result in deaths that could have better been used elsewhere.

Edit: more to expect.

Bakhmut campaign started in August last year, and Russian achievement to date is soledar and bakhmutske. Which btw is the smaller settlement near Bakhmut itself.

Next will be the Russian campaign to capture the hills and valleys in the west side, let's see how long it will take this time.

Russia better hope it will be before summer this year. Because if you're late, Ukraine is likely on its way to open a new front in Zaporizhia.

 

[blackjack]

Bakhmut campaign started in August last year, and Russian achievement to date is soledar and bakhmutske. Which btw is the smaller settlement near Bakhmut itself.

Next will be the Russian campaign to capture the hills and valleys in the west side, let's see how long it will take this time.

Russia better hope it will be before summer this year. Because if you're late, Ukraine is likely on its way to open a new front in Zaporizhia.

Its a fucking clown show.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614154834151718913

we already have leadership fighting and I keep seeing videos every day on twitter of people recording AFU getting into squabbles with civilians to get mobilized.

Whatever territory Ukraine gained from Russia barely resulted in any Russian casualties and our friend Julian Ropke did make valid points saying where is all the destroyed Russian equipment in Kherson? BTW Putin wasn't begging Surovkin to stay in Kherson he listens to his command instead.

I dont even know if Ukraine will afford to open a new front in Zaporizhia depending how many bodies they have left since they cant send too many soldiers in any operation by getting more and more vulnerable with the possibility of an attack from Belarus. So many Ukrainian regiments have been killed just trying to defeat mercenaries that have served time in jail. I hear from other sources with all the reserves and those that have served prior at the start of the operation amount to 400K+ Russian soldiers outside Ukraine's border, yet Ukraine has dumbass leadership trying to look cool to the media to massively kill bodies they would need later to be used in operations that would have less casualties than what is going on in Bakhmut. There are columns and columns of Russian tanks I have been seeing and the reserves have gotten plenty of training by now.

Yet we have people completely ignoring how much Ukrainian troops have been getting sent to Bakhmut over some territory gains like Kherson or Kharkiv where Russians always had a smaller force being able to swiftly retreat with barely any losses. After Bakhmut there will be a lot of offensives from Russia that can be launched so I am wondering about the next Ukrainian offensives to see how many bodies they will send. EDIT: When Russians were on the run in September you would expect the Ukrainians to be killing more Russians, but instead the loss rate was 5 Ukrainians for every 1 Russian soldier if we listen to what the Ukrainian soldiers have said ignoring western or Russian sources. Trust me I don't go 100% believing a side will win the war like most here would do, I am still 50/50.

 

[bisbis]

Those who say that this war will end in 2 months, but 4 months when the ukraine counter-attack begins. land warfare experts, aviation experts, think tankers etc. what was the result? You all failed the class.

What do you say now, no matter what weapons they give to Ukraine, if they save their situation.

What happened, you were making fun of the Russian mobilization! The men have been standing at the front for 2 months.

 

[Umigami]

 

[guest_07]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim.
Good day to Others.

Russian conscript complained
about the treatment.

Wallahu a'lam.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614207530275586049

 

[GoatsMilk]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim.
Good day to Others.

Russian conscript complained
about the treatment.

Wallahu a'lam.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614207530275586049

why are they complaining? They know what their country is all about.

 

[Relic]

Per the UK Prime Minister's Office, Britain not only send the squadron of 14 Challenger 2's that we've been hearing about, but more importantly (and unexpectedly) Britain will send approximately 30, 155mm AS90, self propelled howitzers. This is hugely significant as 30 represents approximately 1/3 of all the 155mm self propelled howitzers in the British inventory.

The weapon system the AS-90 uses is the same as the Polish Krab, 155mm howitzer, it's simply mounted on a different chassis. Therefore, training the Ukrainians to use it should be a relatively easy / quick process.

A commitment of 30'ish, 155mm howitzers represents the largest influx of howtizers from one nation, since the USA sent dozens of 155m, M777 howitzers, much earlier in the conflict. 30 guns the quality of the AS-90 is enough to significantly outfit an entire brigade.

Britain to send 14 of its main battle tanks to Ukraine

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's office said late on Saturday that Britain would send 14 of its main battle tanks along with additional artillery support to Ukraine, disregarding criticism from the Russian Embassy in London.

www.reuters.com

 

[Mehmed Ali]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613122244380704768

so bitter, the result of trusting the west!

Yes, so you ( Iranians) sent them 122 Grad missiles. They can count that they are good quality, you tested them on Aleppo hospitals. I heard they worked just fine

 

[tracer]

Rumors that the UK is also sending 4 AH-64E helicopters to Ukraine with the Challenger package.
Still unconfirmed as the source is the daily star, but interesting nonetheless.
Four helicopters wont make *that* much of a difference, but the implications would be huge. Sixteen hellfires per helicopter can make just about anything on the battlefield have a really bad time.

UK sending Apache helicopters with deadly missiles to Ukraine in 'game changer'

The Apache choppers are equipped with the same engine as a Rolls Royce and can hit speeds above 180mph, whilst also carrying a range of artillery which can wipe out multiple targets in seconds

www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[GoatsMilk]

Rumors that the UK is also sending 4 AH-64E helicopters to Ukraine with the Challenger package.
Still unconfirmed as the source is the daily star, but interesting nonetheless.
Four helicopters wont make *that* much of a difference, but the implications would be huge. Sixteen hellfires per helicopter can make just about anything on the battlefield have a really bad time.

UK sending Apache helicopters with deadly missiles to Ukraine in 'game changer'

The Apache choppers are equipped with the same engine as a Rolls Royce and can hit speeds above 180mph, whilst also carrying a range of artillery which can wipe out multiple targets in seconds

www.dailystar.co.uk

I wonder at what point the drip feeding of weapons ends. All that keeps Russia alive in Ukraine now is the limited supply of modern weapons to Ukraine.

 

[tracer]

I wonder at what point the drip feeding of weapons ends. All that keeps Russia alive in Ukraine now is the limited supply of modern weapons to Ukraine.

Well, this would give the Ukrainians an opportunity to train without having to pull their helicopter pilots away from the front all the way to the UK. Considering they would have to learn the systems involved. Those crews could then train another batch of pilots and so on. I assume they wont have a lot of skilled helicopter pilots sitting around just waiting, and the temptation would certainly be to get as many of them in the air as quickly as possible, with our without proper training if they had a lot of them.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614598580743856130

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614599303439257601

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614598036230914053

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614584486003605504

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614581790412537856

 

[Chocopie]

The weapon system the AS-90 uses is the same as the Polish Krab, 155mm howitzer, it's simply mounted on a different chassis. Therefore, training the Ukrainians to use it should be a relatively easy / quick process.

Slightly different variants.
AS-90 gun is 155 mm 39 caliber (25 km standard charges).
Polish Krab has an optimized AS-90 Braveheart turret with a longer 52 caliber gun (30+ km standard charges). And it has Polish automated FCS Topaz and many other Polonized sub-systems.