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True, but the ones giving this information is Russians, there's a BIG BIG difference between what they're telling and what they're selling
Translation: I have a bias against those darn russians, but I trust everything the west says, especially geopolitical decisions.

I absolutely do, and I'm also absolutely informed that the PrSM would only have maneuvering targets capability at the 3rd increment, which is years away. Somehow the Russian (claimed) they did it first. hmmmm, not saying its impossible, but questions need to raised here simply because Russia is not on par with the U.S atm.
I mean there are constant ongoing breakthroughs in anything missile and rocket related like Russians stating adding copper nanoparticles mixed with fuel will cause thrust to be increased 5 times the amount, Xenon being replaced with krypton fuel for satellites to thrust in space because its 10 times cheaper, no engine design breakthrough using kerosene allows a stage engine to burn for 3000 seconds instead of 300 seconds. I mean fuck do you say a space tug project that used MPD thrusters with nuclear fuel being used by the U.S. I mean there are times you have to accept we are not number 1 at everything. But back at the topic at hand in 2019 they anticipated PRSM or agm-183A was going to have manuevering capabilities and they claim that their new SAMs can deal with them because their G-loads are twice as much as the previous SAM interceptors. There are no statements about PACS-3 interceptors pulling 55 to 60 G-loads but its current G-loads are similiar to some of the S-400's previous SAM interceptors that the russians claimed would not be able to intercept PRSM or AGM-183A. Russians state they are producing more than 50 times the amount of Kinzhals and as you know there are users here that didnt give a 2nd thought assuming PACS-3=invincibility.

This from the guy who actually believes that a single attack sub could single handedly destroy a US navy CSG formation in the open seas lmao
you never stated that I was wrong that missiles can target mobile ships through satellites when I provided U.S. and Russian sources, can be launched from underwater 1000s of kilometers away and very good chance that Zircon would be a bigger bitch to intercept than HGVs or manueverable BMs like PRSM or Kinzhal.

Hypersonic itself is nothing new. The space shuttle is hypersonic, in fact everything that goes beyond Mach 5 is already a hypersonic vehicle. Its the way the Russians sell their capability as invincible to existing AD systems that is laughable especially in the light of underperforming Russians hardware in Ukraine.
HTV-2 and Avangard are mach 20 vehicles that get released from ICBMs at a 100km altitude not comparable to a space shuttle by any means what you are stating. The HTV-2 is what pissed off the Russians in the 1st place claiming it as a 1st strike nuclear weapon design and began to withdraw from some treaty because of it. The U.S. did not pursue the HTV-2 project further but from the looks of it are making like mach 10 HGV projects. ICBMs travel over 1000km altitudes and when they descend they release warheads and the entire missile follows a simple trajectory which is why we have gotten recent news about their interceptions before they release their warheads. The Avangard at mach 20+ has manuevering capabilities because its an HGV and flies at a 100km altitude before hitting its target this means ground radars have less time and this requires better space sensors to track lower altitude target that does not leave earth.

Scramjets or any airbreathing missile always requires a 1st stage engine and the beauty of airbreathing missiles is that their engines dont stop until they hit their targets because they get constant supersonic airflow that mixes with the fuel offering higher combustion than any ballistic missile design that does not get airflow but has to burn more fuel which is why they were never suited for low altitudes. They are maneuverable and travel at lower altitudes than HGVs and of course are hypersonic. Russians have pursued plasma generators on the meteorit missile but they dont have to because the atmospheric calculator states that based on speed and altitude the plasma sheath could absorb low to high frequency making it difficult to track on radar which is why there was never any communication with the space shuttle entering back to earth.

So I heard the U.S. is making next generation infrared systems to track lower altitude hypersonic targets but that is not going to automatically solve the problem because you are going to need brand new SAM interceptors. Assuming the U.S. is like Russia having SAM interceptors with 55-60 G-loads, intercepting Zircon or Avangard will be a bitch. Assuming these interceptors will have greater maneuverability they will need better speeds, also the sensors will have to be extremely strong like the Zircon sensors would be enough to deal with ship size targets but the interceptors have to deal with a smaller size target to chase after with the current electronics having to deal with the heat and stress and plasma density making it more difficult to follow the zircon while the Zircon's sensors have to be sufficient enough just for ships. Even than Russia has made new breakthroughs in material to deal with kinetic heat while the U.S. has not showcased this because the HTV-2 got destroyed less than 1/3rd of its flight path.

maneuvering 30+Gs constantly in flight without having to worry about energy loss.. especially when you have limited time in which your propellant burns
The ATACMs had a limited range and didnt offer maneuverability, the proposal of PRSM is offering maneuverability with a longer range but eventually the U.S. will get there. ;)

people actually have to question if the missile is not ripped apart during flight lmao
The Avangard didnt but the HTV-2 did....OOF.
 

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Anyways...about the ICC, a law is only law if it could be enforced. You could have the thickest law book in existence but when there's no one to enforce one, it's worth is no more than the toilet paper.

Putin is probably laughing his ass as soon as he figured out that the ICC issued arrest warrants against him, knowing no one is actually capable of dragging his ass to the Hague. Lest they want nuclear winter.

The perks of having a huge nuclear stockpile is you could get away with murder, smart guy he really is. Saddam probably didn't get the memo.🙁

In the end countries that is no part of the Western core will have to question the very world order that they're participating within , the "International" Criminal Courts does have preference 😊. And you better be nuclear armed when you decide its time to do human rights abuse.
 

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From AR-15.com

@UkroTurk et al.

Guys I owe an update after last few weeks of doing serious work for UA I’ve had a chance to talk to my normal friends in other less sexy brigades.

So we sent a lot of help to a brigade recently sent to Bhakmut (Nov-dec) they did well and lost a couple dozen got two weeks that was supposed to be 2 months or more at their home base in Zhot. Area. Instead of getting the time to refit they had to deploy to stop the Russian thrust on Chasiv Yar. These guys have no tanks, only limited vehicles, mortars, older rapiras etc. they got hit head on by Russian VDV and Wagner groups in the fields/forest outside Chasiv Yar. Why send them, lots of ATO and GWOT vets (yes Ukrainians) and guys who fight get extra work. Downside of being a patriot they’ll ask more of you.

They took huge casualties. I can’t say the number but it’s bad. These are guys who fought in Bhakmut for 2 months and had less than 2 doz Kia.

In the open fields with good fortifications (but no basements or high rise structures) they got hammered by artillery and tank fire. In open fields a tank can really put the hurt on from 5-7 k by indirect but very accurate fire. Mortars and 152mm too.

I’m really saddened by this but they say hey we accomplished our task, stopped and pushed the attack back (not to initial assault point but back from Gloc) task succeeded. Bhakmut holds, we rebuild. This is a story replaying everyday.

I can’t underemphasize the courage bravery that these guys do without stuff that even a basic national guard infantry unit would have. The price is blood but fighting open in an artillery war in not tenable long term. You have to hold the larger towns and cities. You can’t understand unless youve explored a soviet built small city or town.

Russians continue to use/loose men at a fricking mind boggeling rate. Frankly I’m sure the oryx numbers are low. They throw human squad attacks in constant stream supported by thousands of artillery rounds. Drones work on both sides. The Russians try to copy the UA but are less successful. They do however have more high level drone recon. So they can correct artillery, send human meat probes, expose positions this way then hammer it with tank, howitzer, cluster or phosphorous rockets, and if your not under 6’ of reinforced concrete or in full defilade it’s a hell of a thing to survive.

Why send them again? Well they did so well in Bhakmut but again people need to. Understand the above. Survival in bunkers is possible, sitting in a trench under a division fire mission and fighting back after is a hero’s deed done every day. Every guy I know there is a father with kids. Even some grandparents. Or teenagers. I’m messed up by all this, the loss is terrible and it was all avoidable, tanks and Ifvs and ATACMS 11 months ago and those hundreds of guys would see their families again

That’s it, guys who gave money/gear know that the money saved some of these guys and helped slot some orcs. I’ll post pics of stuff we’ve sent but it’s a family birthday weekend just thought I’d share.

Russians are getting NVGs and Thermals of decent quality and we can guess who’s sending it.

Thanks for your support and of course more is needed but I don’t have the heart to ask. Everyone here who cares has done soo much. Know that a few guys got home from AFIAKs we provided, p tops were popped, uniforms were bloodied and muddied, feet didn’t freeze. No frost bite.

Mila and D
 

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What do Ukrainian users think of Binkovs analysis?

Any counter points to be made?
 

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The crew of the Russian T-90M Proryv tank spoke about the assault on the stronghold of the Ukrainian army from a closed firing position and their impressions of the new T-90M Proryv tank, the tank’s fire was corrected from the UAV.


The English Stormer HVM air defense system of the Ukrainian army came under attack from the Russian Lancet kamikaze drone. This is the first defeat by Lancet kamikaze drones of the Stormer air defense system, it is worth noting that the Lancet drone is a difficult target for air defense of this type.


Footage of the work of Russian snipers in Ukraine. The calculation uses the Austrian Steyr-Mannlicher SSG 08 7.62 mm sniper rifle. The effective range of the rifle is 1500 meters, the price is about 8 thousand euros.


Presumably, the first use of American JDAM-ER bombs by Ukrainian aircraft. The bombing was reportedly carried out in the Kurdyumovka area near Bakhmut. Most likely, the JDAM-ER bomb was dropped by aircraft from the deep rear in the roll-up mode, since flights over Bakhmut and at high altitude are dangerous for aviation.


Footage of the combat work of the Russian crew of the Tor-M2U anti-aircraft missile system in Ukraine, as reported, the Tor-M2 air defense system shot down a reconnaissance drone of the Ukrainian army on the front line. Also, the calculation of the air defense system spoke about the goals for which they work in Ukraine, mainly MLRS of the Ukrainian army and unmanned aerial vehicles.

 

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ALL OFF TOPICS DELETED!
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE UKRAINE-RUSSIA WAR ONLY,LET US KEEP IT THAT WAY!
 

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Its a given. For Poland Russia MUST lose this war

From a Polish perspective it makes perfect sense. If Turkiye didnt have to worry about the US/EU i would argue that we would fall into a similar position where it makes more sense for Turkiye to enter the war, then to allow Ukraine to fall only for it to set up a future war from a much weaker position. We already got Russia in armenia set up against us, same in Syria, then they moved into Libya. Annexing Crimea didnt help in our north and everyone knows that the cypriot greeks were Russias best friends in the EU. Russia has been incrementally working to encircle Turkiye. While all this has been happening Turks have been sleeping for the most part, they only really woke up to it about 2 years ago.
 

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