Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

blackjack

Contributor
Moderator
Russia Correspondent
Russia Moderator
Messages
1,399
Reactions
8 808
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Russia
Speaking of artillery I guess this was a news report that I overlooked that happened in the army forum last month.

KUBINKA, (Moscow region), August 16 - RIA Novosti. The Russian Ministry of Defense and the Splav Research and Production Association (NPO) signed a contract at the Army-2023 forum for the supply of 300-mm shells for the Tornado-S multiple launch rocket system.
"A state contract for the manufacture and supply of 300-mm rockets for the Tornado-S multiple launch rocket system is being awarded," the announcer said.
The contract was signed by Rinat Idrisov, General Director of NPO Splav, and Head of the Main Directorate of Armaments of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Anatoly Gulyaev.
 

blackjack

Contributor
Moderator
Russia Correspondent
Russia Moderator
Messages
1,399
Reactions
8 808
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Russia
Russia.
-New russian formations are being made in russia outside the operation zone with putin announcing 300k have signed up for military contracts just for this year.
-Last November they have increasted production to 3 8 hour work shifts to assemble new MLRS systems and a contract was signed last month in the military forum to produce 300mm rockets.
-Krasnopol-M2 shells announced for 2024 will increase 25 times the amount. Koalition-SV just finished testing was completed and production begun last month, no announcement on Krasnopol-DM shells that support it to be mass produced yet.
-several hundred T-90Ms and several hundred T-72s with their modifications will be done by the end of this year and the T-14 armata after the engine complaints in the operation would resume production over the current 132 amount in the 1st quarter of 2024.
-Russian reports gave updates that the Hermes MLRS is finishing up trials.the 30 years in the making system being put into service will be a major celebration and with announcements of production of the system and rockets will be where the true nightmare begins.
-@krakek1
Instances of published FPV drone attacks by Russian forces, according to Lostarmour a (pro) Russian OSINT groups. 400+ or so lancets produced for this month since September is not finished yet and we got those numbers from this graph taken in September 17

1695007192868.png


-still getting orders of 4th gen and 5th gen aircrafts
-Production of Kinzhal was increased to 50 times the amount since February 2023, Army forum last august states iskander was produced 7 times the amount more, ukraine complains Belarus has 90 or so of these missiles.

Ukraine.
-tweets every day of people getting thrown into white vans along with latest mobilization news for women and students to get drafted next
-every few months every package deal is like 100 tanks and a number of other armoured vehicles.
-6000 to 14,000 GMLRS will start getting produced somewhere in 2024.
-2025 28,000 to 100,000 155mm shells will be mass produced from U.S.
-have not taken anything into account with Europe if they can afford the energy prices and the means of production for artillery?
-reports now of Ukrainian drones hitting Kub short range air defenses and maybe some tunguskas that were not modified in their time to deal with drones so maybe they will be effective against modern short range air defenses? Anyone got production number estimates?
-60+ F-16s no idea yet on the blocks they will be.
-Getting ATACMs but don't know the amount, high hopes U.S. isnt retarded enough to give nuclear warheads since I don't think Ukraine is worth everyone in this planet to get killed.

The War.
-Russians admitted their excaliburs outranged their current krasnopol shells, but it sounds like excalibur shells were already ran out and russia can make up the difference in range with the use of firing more shells than normal.
-HIMARS has a accurate long range, however current Smerch systems have ranges being similiar and lack of accuracy means having to fire more rockets to increase the chances of enemy destruction which they made that difference up for having more rockets
-of the 1000s of soviet tanks Ukraine has used they have begun using western tanks, hear U.S. has 3000 Abrams but no idea on what variants those tanks are. Russia still seems to be using soviet tanks which have some of modifications done with them. But on the other hand mass production is being done for more modern tanks and new assembly lines to soon reach the battlefield for Russia.

War Predictions.
-I am assuming there will be no major offensive on the Russian side like there was in the beginning of February 2022 until the Presidential elections come in November 2024 out of the assumption that Trump and his administration make a deal that benefits them. If biden is re-elected which I doubt or Trump doesnt make a breakthrough in the negotation the war will resume to a larger scale which I think it will because if Zelensky made a deal that benefits Russia he will no longer be safe in his own country and he is someone that wants to save his own skin.
-I am assuming the tanks that are still stockpiled by NATO will be the only tanks being used, no idea on production for the U.S. side assuming they want to start Abrams X which characteristics of it make it sound like the T-14 armata until 2030.
-Both the U.S. and Russia will have new mass produce shells and rockets. However Ukraine has lost the range advantage of HIMARs against Tornado-S systems which are far more accurate than the Smerch. Ukraine might still enjoy the excalibur range advantage if the production of the Krasnopol-DM shells does not take too long.
 
Last edited:

Xenon54

Experienced member
Switzerland Correspondent
Messages
2,181
Reactions
5 6,703
Nation of residence
Switzerland
Nation of origin
Turkey
Literally no one in the world will get triggered by a person reciting their last prayer before dying.
Hmm, didnt feel like a victim today, theres gotta be something to get victimized...

And the result is this post that was completely un-asked for.
 

chibiyabi

Contributor
Messages
541
Reactions
3 476
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Togo
Last edited by a moderator:

Bogeyman 

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
9,192
Reactions
67 31,255
Website
twitter.com
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Indeed. in WW2 factories that built cars, toys, refrigerators, and furniture were transformed overnight into making tanks, grenades, and planes, this is especially true with the U.S. That's why I said earlier that a new war in continental Europe with NATO involved, and we'll see Porsche back into the tank-making business. Not just Porsche, but Ford, Mercedes Benz, and Renault would re-tool from building cars to tanks, IFV's and MRAPs.

4 out of 5 largest manufacturing countries happen to be in the Western camp, and even if just two would realistically join the war in NATO-related conflict in continental Europe (Germany and USA) we would still be looking at a combined output of 22% of the world's total, not including the industrial might of Britain, France, Italy or Spain.

41d6bcaa4de8edb1b2f70340c6cbe939cffa1fa9.jpeg


So if I'm Putin the best course of action is to do whatever can be done to avoid NATO being dragged into the war. The fact that Russia produces 7 times the combined ammo of the West is the fact that in NATO countries, the production and acquisition process is still in peace mode.
Ammunition production capacity is important. However, if you cannot find raw materials, you cannot use that capacity in a meaningful way. In fact, it should not be forgotten that today's technologies are more complex than those of the World War II period and nothing can be produced without rare earth elements. Modifications that can be made to designs in order to produce with economy of scale will be waiting for us in the new period.

If the war becomes so difficult that designs must be reworked due to raw material shortage, it will strain the capabilities of NATO and anti-China countries. Countries that have been able to produce cost-effectively without any shortage of raw materials will now be tested with the design quality they boast about. We will see together how far they can push the limits.
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,343
Reactions
79 10,728
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Oh boy, that's a lotta damage. No way she's coming back in this decade. Scratch one improved Kilo.
 

Afif

Experienced member
Moderator
Bangladesh Correspondent
DefenceHub Diplomat
Bangladesh Moderator
Messages
4,749
Reactions
94 9,071
Nation of residence
Bangladesh
Nation of origin
Bangladesh
Oh boy, that's a lotta damage. No way she's coming back in this decade.

Yes, i mean, if it ever comes back at all......
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,343
Reactions
79 10,728
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
I want to give them some leeway but Russian navy guys manage to surprise me every single time, so let's say she'll probably be back in 2035-38.
 

Ecderha

Experienced member
Messages
4,552
Reactions
4 7,822
Nation of residence
Bulgaria
Nation of origin
Turkey
Oh boy, that's a lotta damage. No way she's coming back in this decade. Scratch one improved Kilo.
ruZZian media keep saying that it is miner damage.
Sub need only new paint and it is ready go 🤡
ruZZian world eat all the lies which comes from ruzzian media
 

Bogeyman 

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
9,192
Reactions
67 31,255
Website
twitter.com
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
China's top diplomat Wang Yi is visiting Russia for security talks, as Moscow seeks continued support for its war on Ukraine.


A close ally of Moscow, Beijing is accused of supporting Russia indirectly during the war, which it denies.
His visit comes after Vladimir Putin's meeting with North Korea's Kim Jong Un that was thought to yield an arms deal.
Russian media said Mr Wang's trip would also lay the ground for Mr Putin to make a landmark visit to Beijing soon.
Earlier this month Mr Putin said he expected to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, but did not say when.
He has not travelled abroad since the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for him in March over war crimes in Ukraine. Mr Putin last ventured onto foreign soil in December 2022 when he visited Belarus and Kyrgyzstan.

China's foreign ministry said Mr Wang is in Russia for four days for "strategic security consultations".
Russian news agency Tass, citing the Kremlin, said he would meet his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov and the Ukraine war would be a key topic of their talks.
They will also discuss "the expansion of Nato forces and infrastructure in the Asia-Pacific region" and strengthening their coordination in international groupings such as the UN, it said.

Mr Wang's visit comes days after Mr Putin's highly controversial welcome of Mr Kim, which the US alleged was to discuss the selling of North Korean arms to Russia. Moscow is thought to be facing a shortage of weapons and ammunition.
Russia and North Korea said they talked about "military cooperation" and aid for Pyongyang's satellite programme.
When asked about Mr Kim's trip last week, China's foreign ministry declined to comment saying it was "something between their two countries".

But some analysts believe that any mutual North Korea-Russia support is happening with China's knowledge or even implicit consent, given Beijing's close ties with the other two countries.
Those relationships extend beyond socialist ideology and their shared distrust of the US and the West. Beijing has long been Pyongyang's economic lifeline through trade, and in the past year it has started becoming Moscow's as well through ramped-up purchases of Russian oil and gas.
"Whatever's happening with Russia and North Korea cannot be happening without China knowing about it... I don't think they would cooperate militarily without Beijing's approval," said Alexander Korolev, an expert on China-Russia relations with the University of New South Wales in Australia.
China could even see North Korea as a useful proxy to help Russia in the Ukraine war, he added.
"Simply by greenlighting North Korea to have military cooperation with Russia is a way to help Russia with very low reputational costs. It could blame North Korea's rogue regime [whose actions have] nothing to do with them. It would be a smart move, if this is the case." he said.
Mr Wang's visit to Russia also comes a day after he met US national security adviser Jake Sullivan in Malta. Besides the US-China relationship, the two men had also discussed regional security and the Ukraine war, according to statements put out by the US and China.

While the US may be talking to China to put pressure on North Korea to stop any cooperation, it may be unlikely China would do this, said Mr Korolev. "If China wanted to play ball the American way, they had more than a year" to stop the war but they have not, he said.

China has been accused by the US of aiding Russia economically and supplying key technology since the war began.
A US intelligence report released in July said Beijing is "pursuing a variety of economic support mechanisms for Russia that mitigate both the impact of Western sanctions and export controls".
It cited China's increased purchases of Russian energy exports, the increased use of its currency in transactions with Russia, and the "probable" supply of dual technology - items which could be used for both civilian and military purposes such as drones - for use in Ukraine.
China has consistently denied such allegations and insists it maintains an objective position on the war.
It has put out its own Ukraine peace plan, unveiled during a whirlwind of diplomacy undertaken by Mr Wang earlier this year when he last visited Moscow and met Mr Putin.

 

Ecderha

Experienced member
Messages
4,552
Reactions
4 7,822
Nation of residence
Bulgaria
Nation of origin
Turkey
Facts about this sub and for history.

1.Technically it did NOT sink
2.ruzzia lost a submarine to nation without navy
3.ruzzian media said that submarine is maintenance and will be ready soon. Nobody said how many days or years "Soon" mean
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
8,361
Reactions
22 12,853
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
I mean it looks a bit rough, but looks like it is repairable.

some comparison on damage on other ships

1280px-US_Navy_050127-N-4658L-030_Submarine_USS_San_Francisco_in_dry_dock_to_assess_damage_Guam_Jan_8_2005.jpg

main-qimg-61020e97811cae12dba6d7d17aab08d5-lq
 

Soldier30

Experienced member
Russian Armed Forces News Editor
Messages
1,500
Reactions
9 832
Nation of residence
Russia
Nation of origin
Russia
Operators of the Zoo-1M radar spoke about their work in Ukraine. The crew of the Russian self-propelled radar station 1L261 spoke about their combat work in Ukraine. The Zoo-1M complex calculates artillery according to the trajectory of the projectile, within 30 seconds the flight path is processed, and the station issues the coordinates from where the shooting took place. The Zoo-1M complex was put into service in the 2000s

 

Soldier30

Experienced member
Russian Armed Forces News Editor
Messages
1,500
Reactions
9 832
Nation of residence
Russia
Nation of origin
Russia
New footage has appeared of another Russian BMPT "Terminator", the combat vehicle is missing a caterpillar, and is reportedly being sent for repairs. In the video you can also see a damaged Russian T-90 tank.

 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom