Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Huelague]

The problem for stopping this conflict is that the current Russian regime is likely to attack again in the future. Without a defence pact guarantee by major powers (if Ukraine is attacked, the powers will respond as if they were attacked), any cessation of hostilities in Ukraine is likely to be temporary.

At the end of the party, what have all the involved parties/countries win or lost?

 

[Huelague]

You can’t win against Russia by a permanently defence stance.

 

[SilverMachine]

Nothing good's going to come from a "permanently aggressive" stance, either.

Someone said something smart at the very start of this war, forget who: "the only thing more dangerous than Russia winning this, is Russia losing".

They're getting Crimea, they're getting the Donbass, maybe a little more. Them's the facts, Jack, as Biden would say. It's just a matter of how painful/painless we want to make it for the Ukrainians, and a matter of whether we're dumb enough to escalate it into more than it needs to be, involving more countries as actual frontline belligerents.

 

[Spitfire9]

You can’t win against Russia by a permanently defence stance.

Being a member of a militarily strong defence pact can stop Russia attacking you. NATO has shown that.

 

[Soldier30]

Russian Su-35S fighters and Su-34 fighter-bombers began performing paired sorties in the Kursk region of Russia. The Su-35S fighters are armed with an R-77-1 air-to-air missile and a long-range R-37M missile. The aircraft is also equipped with Kh-31PD anti-radar missiles.

 

[Huelague]

"permanently aggressive" stance, either.

Who said permanently aggressive stance?

 

[Huelague]

Being a member of a militarily strong defence pact can stop Russia attacking you. NATO has shown that.

I mean on the battlefield. You cant win a boxing fight just with defence, in the hope that anytime, your opponent will fall to the ground, if he is tired enough.
Btw, Ukraine is not part of NATO.