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[uçuyorum]

I know sometimes the ideas people find can sound stupid or outlandish, or like the idea sounds simple but the real feat is obviously actually doing something for real. Nonetheless, I had this idea I wanna brain storm about. We have seen these semi submersible usv designs. What if we made a number of semi submersible and difficult to detect USV and place either IRST or S/L band radars on them in order to survey a large area in nearby seas? Even though the range of sensors would be low, these could detect low observable or low altitude targets earlier if they flew right over if you spread these around. I imagine they could stay in the sea foe a few days before coming back and refueling.

 

[boredaf]

I know sometimes the ideas people find can sound stupid or outlandish, or like the idea sounds simple but the real feat is obviously actually doing something for real. Nonetheless, I had this idea I wanna brain storm about. We have seen these semi submersible usv designs. What if we made a number of semi submersible and difficult to detect USV and place either IRST or S/L band radars on them in order to survey a large area in nearby seas? Even though the range of sensors would be low, these could detect low observable or low altitude targets earlier if they flew right over if you spread these around. I imagine they could stay in the sea foe a few days before coming back and refueling.

Or we can build platforms like oil rigs on the sea within our exclusive zone, slap radars on top and sonars under the surface. I know US looked into using their oil rigs as an early warning/first line of defence platforms during Cold War, even considered building new platforms. We could improve on that by purpose building a platform with air defence, radars, sonars as well as USVs, and use them in the same way.

 

[Sanchez]

20! Kuzgun missiles on the Marlin for Saudi.

WDS 2024: Royal Saudi Navy Eyes Turkish USV Procurement - Naval News

At the WDS 2024 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia's NCMS exhibited the MARLIN USV, which was developed by the Turkish companies Aselsan and Sefine.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Sanchez]

"Naval News however confirmed with company officials that the box launchers are actually for TUBITAK SAGE’s Kuzgun anti-ship missiles."

"anti-ship" ?

Yup, Kuzgun was always presented as a multi use missile family.
From 2019:

 

[Brave Janissary]

20! Kuzgun missiles on the Marlin for Saudi.

WDS 2024: Royal Saudi Navy Eyes Turkish USV Procurement - Naval News

At the WDS 2024 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia's NCMS exhibited the MARLIN USV, which was developed by the Turkish companies Aselsan and Sefine.

www.navalnews.com

My Feelings say box launchers for sonobuoys.

 

[Anmdt]

My Feelings say box launchers for sonobuoys.

I was feeling this but, the brochure of Marlin also states 20 SSM in trimaran version, 10 in monohull version. And ASW version is meant to carry more than 20 Sonobuoys AFAIK. ASW torpedoes and Kuzgun is not going well together, but it is made for demonstration of how those will be mounted, so it is likely these two won't be used at the same time.

 

[boredaf]

ASW torpedoes and Kuzgun is not going well together, but it is made for demonstration of how those will be mounted, so it is likely these two won't be used at the same time.

I wonder if they can replace those with Çakır launchers?

 

[Sanchez]

I was feeling this but, the brochure of Marlin also states 20 SSM in trimaran version, 10 in monohull version. And ASW version is meant to carry more than 20 Sonobuoys AFAIK. ASW torpedoes and Kuzgun is not going well together, but it is made for demonstration of how those will be mounted, so it is likely these two won't be used at the same time.

Yup, see the towed sonar and the EW mission modules next to it on the ground. This model probably just shows all the possible mission modules Saudi is interested in.

My Feelings say box launchers for sonobuoys.

Doubt you'd need launchers for sonobuoys when you can just drop them from the aft. Naval News crew says they are for Kuzgun, I'd think they would have talked and confirmed it with PR crew next to the model.
"Naval News however confirmed with company officials that the box launchers are actually for TUBITAK SAGE’s Kuzgun anti-ship missiles"

 

[Brave Janissary]

I was feeling this but, the brochure of Marlin also states 20 SSM in trimaran version, 10 in monohull version. And ASW version is meant to carry more than 20 Sonobuoys AFAIK. ASW torpedoes and Kuzgun is not going well together, but it is made for demonstration of how those will be mounted, so it is likely these two won't be used at the same time.

İn this case marlin must be turn his backward to target . İt's not efficent launch way ı think.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Indeed and I think I actually broke it down somewhere after IDEF23. When I talked to SEFİNE about the launchers and showed the official my estimations on Blender, they revealed that this launcher is a placeholder and the finalised launcher will have two-axis movement.

 

[uçuyorum]

ASELSAN | MARLIN

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That mast looks absolutely loaded

 

[Kaan Azman]

Time to revive the dying thread with some good news about ULAQ

https://x.com/turdefcom/status/1764943987549323266?s=20

 

[boredaf]

Time to revive the dying thread with some good news about ULAQ

https://x.com/turdefcom/status/1764943987549323266?s=20

When are we going to get some then? It was supposed to enter our inventory last year.

 

[Kaan Azman]

The new configuration was spotted in an exercise without weapons on its backside, nothing is certain though

 

[Anmdt]

The audacity of these people is immeasurable.

"Unmanned Navy Vehicle" - yeah.

I once advised a student team and they were capable of doing this in 2016-2017, through COTS and few dollars worth equipment. There is something called "Pixhawk" magic controller board. Also notice, "Navy" Equipments, yeah.

 

[Kaan Azman]

I'd say better for the Coast Guard, and they totally need to improve on marketing

 

[Anmdt]

I'd say better for the Coast Guard, and they totally need to improve on marketing

Please enlighten me, how would this happen?

The Coast Guard needs platforms that can withstand severe weather conditions, this could at best be a toy for the Fisheries Control Department, Port Authorities and so on, moreover just to fund the company (hence the owners) without actually using the platform except for the promotional videos of the affiliated departments. This "funding" would not return to R&D as an additional use but would go straight into the pockets of certain people.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

OKHAN USV being marketed in Qatar

İnsansız deniz aracı OKHAN, Katar'da görücüye çıktı

Kayacı Savunma tarafından geliştirilen insansız su üstü deniz aracı OKHAN, Katara'da düzenlenen DIMDEX 2024 fuarında sergilendi. OKHAN özellikleri neler?

www.donanimhaber.com

Turkey's capability in armed unmanned aerial vehicles is being moved to the sea. The number of companies developing unmanned marine vehicles is increasing. OKHAN, an unmanned surface vehicle developed by a local defense industry company named Kayacı Defense; It was exhibited at the 8th Doha International Maritime Defense Exhibition and Conference (DIMDEX 2024) held in Qatar.

Developed after approximately 10 years of R&D process, OKHAN has been continuing its sea tests for 2 years. OKHAN expects to work in Türkiye and international markets.

It draws attention with its autonomous driving feature and high localization rate.

Unmanned marine vehicle OKHAN; It has a length of 11.5 meters, a weight of 7 tons, a 2x195 total horsepower of 390, a top speed of 30 knots and a cruising range of 350 miles. It can perform autonomous reconnaissance, surveillance and tracking missions. The ship attracts attention with its 85 percent local production rate.

Unmanned Marine Vehicle OKHAN Features

Technicial Specifications:

Body length: 11.4 m

Engine power: 390H

Maximum Speed: 30 knots

Cruising Range: 350 nautical miles day and night

Telemetry: Encrypted LOS communication, Encrypted satellite communication (optional)


Other Features:

Ability to perform autonomous obstacle avoidance maneuvers

Ability to be controlled from mobile land and sea platforms

Ability to carry payload up to 1.5 tons

Ammunition Launcher Launcher

Active/passive radar reflector

RF Jammer and other electronic warfare systems

Tasks:

Unmanned and Fully Autonomous Navigation Capability

Reconnaissance, Surveillance and intelligence gathering Mission

Optimum Navigation Ability with Artificial Intelligence

Target Detection and Identification Feature with Image Processing

High Value Unit Protection and Sentry Duty

Ability to Escort Main Units

Attack and defense when armed

Effective Fight against Irregular Migration

Sensors:

24 nautical mile range marine radar with automatic target detection,

Thermal camera, day camera, navigation camera,

Satellite Telemetry,

GNSS, INS,

Strobe light, Siren, Announcement system


https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/savunma-sanayisi/insansiz-su-ustu-araci-okhan-icin-hedefler-buyuk/3157704

 

[boredaf]

Supposedly, this is the version of Ulaq that'll enter our inventory soon:

ULAQ SİDA'nın envantere girecek versiyonu görüntülendi

ULAQ Silahlı İnsansız Deniz Aracı (SİDA)'nın, Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı envanterine girecek versiyonu ilk kez Meteksan Savunma tarafından sergilendi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767182956961906751

The eye of the deep is ready for duty! DERİNGÖZ Autonomous Underwater Vehicle can be used in many critical missions such as underwater research, reconnaissance and surveillance, mine detection, pipeline inspection, port and base protection, thanks to its high maneuverability, precise navigation ability, optical and sonar imaging technologies. The first diving system tests of DERİNGÖZ, which can be used for both military and civilian purposes, have been successfully completed.