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JUST IN: Secret Service was aware of the potential threat 10 minutes before Donald Trump took the stage in Pennsylvania but let him go out anyway. The revelation was made during a Senate briefing today. Sen. Marsha Blackburn says she was "appalled to learn the Secret Service knew about a threat prior to President Trump walking on stage." "I have no confidence in the leadership of Director Cheatle and believe it is in the best interest of our nation if she steps down from her position."
 

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Can you imagine... The USSS was overstretched to the point where they couldn't properly secure a perimeter and had to give the responsibility for this building to the law enforcements.

They were not overstretched. There is a serious DEI phenomenon that is corrupting things at DC.

The details will emerge in the hearings starting next monday (once RNC is over and house republicans start the hearings).

There will be a larger purge of DC starting 2025....after the fine tooth combing done this year....i.e whether the fine tooth comb produces some nature of inspecter-general office review+firing (within the S. Service) still remains to be seen.

If this lady doesnt resign, definitely the GOP need to ensure the hooman act (1 dollar salary) is at play till 2025.

But larger american public simply dont stand for this operating as is anymore.... american public dont want social-weakening (and institutional mistrust) and then civil war crap to brew to further degrees....all to suit some ivory tower miasma in coastal elitists and DC.

Just look at the DEI hire for secret service coming on MSM network and squawking already about "sloped roof" instead of waiting for the review process to start. This tells you all you need to know about the DC-MSM ivory tower blob that over-exerts to protect itself first thing....that has become hallmark of US DC bureaucrat blob drift, from the trough diet dems/lefties have pushed here first thing this long.

You cant just get rid of incompetence at the nominal figure head level (some prima donna general essentially, that DEI has now made a lot worse).

It needs to go 3 - 4 layers deep well into field officer and even company officer and NCO sometimes....depending on the rot thats been grown that such ranks are beholden to (the prima donna ivory tower stuff).

Accountability matters, not just nominal shoulder shrugging responsibility

Rank and file largely are where its still capable in most instances (regd for S. Service things like: courage, pressure handling, training, realised performance etc)...but that also needs to be reviewed thoroughly after new leadership above them put in to run this all through the checks then.
 

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They were not overstretched. There is a serious DEI phenomenon that is corrupting things at DC.

The details will emerge in the hearings starting next monday (once RNC is over and house republicans start the hearings).

There will be a larger purge of DC starting 2025....after the fine tooth combing done this year....i.e whether the fine tooth comb produces some nature of inspecter-general office review+firing (within the S. Service) still remains to be seen.

If this lady doesnt resign, definitely the GOP need to ensure the hooman act (1 dollar salary) is at play till 2025.

But larger american public simply dont stand for this operating as is anymore.... american public dont want social-weakening (and institutional mistrust) and then civil war crap to brew to further degrees....all to suit some ivory tower miasma in coastal elitists and DC.

Just look at the DEI hire for secret service coming on MSM network and squawking already about "sloped roof" instead of waiting for the review process to start. This tells you all you need to know about the DC-MSM ivory tower blob that over-exerts to protect itself first thing....that has become hallmark of US DC bureaucrat blob drift, from the trough diet dems/lefties have pushed here first thing this long.

You cant just get rid of incompetence at the nominal figure head level (some prima donna general essentially, that DEI has now made a lot worse).

It needs to go 3 - 4 layers deep well into field officer and even company officer and NCO sometimes....depending on the rot thats been grown that such ranks are beholden to (the prima donna ivory tower stuff).

Accountability matters, not just nominal shoulder shrugging responsibility

Rank and file largely are where its still capable in most instances (regd for S. Service things like: courage, pressure handling, training, realised performance etc)...but that also needs to be reviewed thoroughly after new leadership above them put in to run this all through the checks then.
Oh, for sure! This system that you talk about managed to screw up so many things within these services and the law enforcement that a whole purge will be needed so they can come to the level they need to be at. If this whole fiasco gives a birth to the results I expect the USSS will only be one sector of the purge that is going to come.

Due to this case I saw a lot of opinions regarding the USSS and the law enforcements in general regarding how they hire their personnel, their policies, about their training, the people that are given a chance there and their opinions largely overlaps with your post.

I tried to analyze the tip of the iceberg with the information I managed to gather without getting too deep into the reasons for this epic fail, but I think you briefed it well.

This whole liberal shit spreading at so important places, I don't like. Putting politics aside for a moment and looking purely from a professional point of view with my limited knowledge on these issues makes me feel strange about their current capabilities and what I've been listening for all these years. It is obvious even for an ordinary person that things are going out of control. Even if we put the whole gender tolerance and gay shit aside for a moment, you can just look at the walking donuts in uniforms and you can grasp a bit about the state of affairs and the deeper you dig, the worst it gets. I mean, okay you want to hire even more women, non-binary people, gays, give the opportunity for a career, but man, you cripple everything you manage to touch. They play with fire and will get burned in the end, but the worst is we, the people on the other side of the world will get burned because of them too. Situations like these are only the visible symptoms. We can only imagine how deep rooted this incompetency is among these kind of services or any other institutions in the US.
 

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Disclaimer: I stole this text.

Small overview:
  • Woman appointed head of SS
  • Vows top priority is diversity and aims %30 of SS to be female
  • Shooting starts and every female hides behind either Trump or fellow officers
  • When they eventually move off stage they kept their heads and shoulders down, continued to expose Trump
  • Were unable to forcibly move Trump or get him to the vehicle
  • One of them was able to unholster and reholster her weapon after several attempts. Which made her look cringe.
  • Overall looked terrified and dumbfounded, not in control of the situation.
Maybe having a bunch of terrified 5' tall pudgy women protecting the most important political figure in the world is a bad idea after all.

This DEI crap is a rot. A disease. It needs to be cleansed.
 

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In the last month what has happened to affect the outcome of the presidential elections?

- disastrous Biden performance in debate with Trump
- some elected Democrat politicians call for Biden to be replaced as candidate
- Trump trial for taking secret documents dismissed
- Biden gaffes at NATO conference
- assassination attempt on Trump
- today Biden announces he has Covid

I would say that Biden is unelectable. If he wants the US to have a Democrat president he should immediately withdraw as their candidate. The chances of a different Democrat candidate being elected are better than his chances of being elected.

Most Americans do not want to have to choose between two old men for their next president. Replacing Biden with a younger man should improve the chances of the US getting a Democrat president.
 
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They were not overstretched. There is a serious DEI phenomenon that is corrupting things at DC.

The details will emerge in the hearings starting next monday (once RNC is over and house republicans start the hearings).

There will be a larger purge of DC starting 2025....after the fine tooth combing done this year....i.e whether the fine tooth comb produces some nature of inspecter-general office review+firing (within the S. Service) still remains to be seen.

If this lady doesnt resign, definitely the GOP need to ensure the hooman act (1 dollar salary) is at play till 2025.

But larger american public simply dont stand for this operating as is anymore.... american public dont want social-weakening (and institutional mistrust) and then civil war crap to brew to further degrees....all to suit some ivory tower miasma in coastal elitists and DC.

Just look at the DEI hire for secret service coming on MSM network and squawking already about "sloped roof" instead of waiting for the review process to start. This tells you all you need to know about the DC-MSM ivory tower blob that over-exerts to protect itself first thing....that has become hallmark of US DC bureaucrat blob drift, from the trough diet dems/lefties have pushed here first thing this long.

You cant just get rid of incompetence at the nominal figure head level (some prima donna general essentially, that DEI has now made a lot worse).

It needs to go 3 - 4 layers deep well into field officer and even company officer and NCO sometimes....depending on the rot thats been grown that such ranks are beholden to (the prima donna ivory tower stuff).

Accountability matters, not just nominal shoulder shrugging responsibility

Rank and file largely are where its still capable in most instances (regd for S. Service things like: courage, pressure handling, training, realised performance etc)...but that also needs to be reviewed thoroughly after new leadership above them put in to run this all through the checks then.

If Trump wins, will the Republicans be able to fix these institutional problems? Just months ago they torpedoed the Border security bill to keep the issue hot for the election (and Trump) and to satisfy their bilateral vendetta. They are as much invested in petty culture war (and 'owing' libs) as the far-left if not more. The social conservatives you talked about previously, who are principled and serious, I don't see them in GOP. Either it is people like Trump who is nuts, or religious fundamentalist like Ted cruise and DeSantis who are on a whole another level.

But more importantly, as I said before, federal overreach and some institutional issues caused by agressive (?) Leftwing policies does not negate the problem with far-right threats to democracy and human rights. One glaring example is how they are interfering with women's fundamental rights by trying to ban abortion wherever they could.
 

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Austin Private Wealth with CONNECTIONS to the Bush family shorted 12M shares of $DJT via a put option on July 12, just ONE DAY before the assassination attempt. Did the Bush's know something was going to happen to Donald Trump?

This massive trade represents 6% of total shares and over 16% of the float, given Trump’s 60% ownership. Their $1B AUM makes this a significant bet. Austin Private Wealth is connected to the Bush family through James A. Baker III, a Senior Policy Director with longstanding ties to the Bushes, having served as Secretary of State under George H.W. Bush and in various roles under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. George W. Bush has strongly shared his support AGAINST Trump despite everything happening in our country. While these connections don’t imply direct involvement, they highlight significant professional relationships..
 

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Trump is the best POTUS for Turkey.

He has very good relations with President Erdogan.

He blasted his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in front of the camera about the "bad decision of the Congress" related to the Patriots and said Turkey was "right" to buy S400 instead and i never forget how he greenlighted our Syrian operations and called the Kurds "freeloaders who didnt help the US during WW II."
 

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Oh, for sure! This system that you talk about managed to screw up so many things within these services and the law enforcement that a whole purge will be needed so they can come to the level they need to be at. If this whole fiasco gives a birth to the results I expect the USSS will only be one sector of the purge that is going to come.

Due to this case I saw a lot of opinions regarding the USSS and the law enforcements in general regarding how they hire their personnel, their policies, about their training, the people that are given a chance there and their opinions largely overlaps with your post.

I tried to analyze the tip of the iceberg with the information I managed to gather without getting too deep into the reasons for this epic fail, but I think you briefed it well.

This whole liberal shit spreading at so important places, I don't like. Putting politics aside for a moment and looking purely from a professional point of view with my limited knowledge on these issues makes me feel strange about their current capabilities and what I've been listening for all these years. It is obvious even for an ordinary person that things are going out of control. Even if we put the whole gender tolerance and gay shit aside for a moment, you can just look at the walking donuts in uniforms and you can grasp a bit about the state of affairs and the deeper you dig, the worst it gets. I mean, okay you want to hire even more women, non-binary people, gays, give the opportunity for a career, but man, you cripple everything you manage to touch. They play with fire and will get burned in the end, but the worst is we, the people on the other side of the world will get burned because of them too. Situations like these are only the visible symptoms. We can only imagine how deep rooted this incompetency is among these kind of services or any other institutions in the US.

The US has always strived for and tried to build a merit based system. This is critical in the especially important functions of the state. It is critical in deeper way as US is multi-ethnic and as a nation a relatively new one stitched together... so forging a common ethos and value system is only possible on a merit system.

It is why MLK literally said "to be judged on the content of your character, not the colour of your skin". How would this message stand with today's neo-identitarians (like BLM, antifa etc) grabbing/coercing more easy street on the left to try fracture things....simply to grow statism for utopia in their heads? No matter how power cabals react and use this in DC and ivory tower in that vicious self-reinforcing cycle.

The left has always been ideated and fixated on "statism or bust" to begin with.....and gets tone deaf and insular on this (from larger society, especially those that remember the earlier balance that existed). Its a huge problem, and the US is a huge country.

If one ideology present in the US (w.r.t its power cabal at least given the authority and influence they wield over substantial part of the population) drifts towards anti-merit for various identity politic convenience, we got a huge problem to deal with and address. It's really that simple in end.

If anyone understand this, they understand to a large degree the US for this rough chunk of 50 years so far this century 2000-2050.
 

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If Trump wins, will the Republicans be able to fix these institutional problems? Just months ago they torpedoed the Border security bill to keep the issue hot for the election (and Trump) and to satisfy their bilateral vendetta. They are as much invested in petty culture war (and 'owing' libs) as the far-left if not more. The social conservatives you talked about previously, who are principled and serious, I don't see them in GOP. Either it is people like Trump who is nuts, or religious fundamentalist like Ted cruise and DeSantis who are on a whole another level.

But more importantly, as I said before, federal overreach and some institutional issues caused by agressive (?) Leftwing policies does not negate the problem with far-right threats to democracy and human rights. One glaring example is how they are interfering with women's fundamental rights by trying to ban abortion wherever they could.

Look buddy.... you are reliant on the ivory tower pravda dripfeed that comes your way to begin with, be it the coastal elite MSM (adjudging itself as perfect and everyone else some degree of imperfect further they are from the ivory tower).....or the adhoc splattering that arrives in twitter and social media and so on.

I live here, I have made several friends here from all sides of the political spectrum. The one thing in common that makes them my friends is a common heavy distrust of the ivory tower to begin with.

So its little surprise you got the 3 line superficial summary on some "attempted border deal", without having gone through the details (with left, centre and right leaning folk on the ground that one trusts) as to what the proposed spending was actually on (heavy delusional coastal elite crap like making more facilities to "process" the flow rather than anything to do with stemming the flow)....much less what were the actual border patrol agents reaction to it.

The kind of proposal from ivory tower kind of folks in martha's vineyard that to begin with objectively throw an extreme hissy fit over 50 illegals showing up where they live....w-w-w-wait you cant just make us actually live by our claimed ideology, how dare you reeeee...the illegals are supposed to be stuck with the conservatives or tucked away in inner cities were our monolith is unassailable...reeee

Or this abortion summary, like that hasn't been hashed out with friends I trust....as to what was the democrat policy before over-federalized decision of Roe v Wade....and the value of leaving it to each state to make policy at the state level.

What's next the EU ought to have one monolith policy on something so sensitive to question of morality (when does life start?)....putting aside the current democrat position far to the left of majority of EU countries.

Turkiye (standard 1st trimester option if I'm not mistaken) would if it were in EU, be ok with brussels as the be all end all on such a matter....compared to its local people?

I'm well aware of what DC ivory tower broadcasts as its position and then how it selectively packages reactions of rest of its country that are contrary to it. Just like Europe would have if it overcentralises in Brussels on social policies far past its economic-legal ones.....having already lost UK to the latter matters concerning this.

The rest of your narrative is just more of the same.....how partisan DC stuff transmits and how you echo it back to me.

Its water off a ducks back my friend.

To understand where the (anti-merit) identity politics weaponisation came from in its potency today (to agglomerate in federal overreach especially + DC-hollyweird blob mass broadcast) to spur current snapshot of right wing reactionary movement against it is something you need at least 3 - 4 solid leftie friends to begin with actually living alongside you. Yes LEFTIE friends.

It is only a leftie friend that can properly explain in detail the utter dilapidated disgraceful approach of the democrat DC blob towards them.....where you think I know the easy street verbiage from? Its a leftie friend that used it again and again.

You don't need to trust me, just look at the 1990s Bill Clinton voting results, state by state and area by area vs GOP back then. It was the era of the last common understanding of DC democrats with state/local democrats and their voters.

I am afraid the DC-media-hollyweird blob (heavily aligned to current "neo-dems" and vice versa) wont explain to you quite adequately what the Bush era was and the Obama era after it.

The blob after all take war crazy neo-cun nut Bill Kristol and makes him a super-great democrat liberal overnight in MSNBC, since he kissed enough asses and they kissed his ass enough in return. Then expects the US public to forget about it, just like how MSNBC killed phil donahue's show in lead up to iraq war....but now MSNBC is the absolute vanguard of the DC blob we got to abandon friends and our own memories for/over? Haha not a chance. Should one go to an alcoholic first thing to get abstinence advice? I think not.

20+ years the trad dem distanced away from coastal elite blob...my friend just one of many of these folks.......were not listened to. So much so they brought out bernie to be listened to and heard in 2016.

Bernie who couldn't argue himself out of a wet paper bag in the 1990s versus the democrats and was firmly kept outside, as the dems simply had the full 95% capture of the proletariat base in the US....by the time and work the dems had put in long term with local state by state working class folks.....and always careful to have non-racialised platform.....and focus on economic class problem.

i.e what was the nature of obama's 2nd tenure, things really started in 2012 (after the giant obamacare and other policy fails) regd identity politics weaponisation.

Michael brown, what obama reduced that crap to with his soapbox to racialise things for this new ivory tower model (to fracture society to weaken it to drive DC-democrat federal statism)....a media constantly covering for him and fawning over him because he ticks the boxes outwardly for them rather than the core inner stuff (that the working class especially were waking up to...."he's one of them!....forget the 08 promise....its not what you say, its what you DO" etc.).....and the eric holder stuff coming up w.r.t the cop acting well within reason....and how the DC blob tried to gaslight over all of this.....totally uncaring to what they had unleashed on the proletariat to add to existing problems already.

It is only then, a trad bernie bro leftie friend told me, can you understand WHY in 2016, Bernie started out responding to "open borders" as a "Koch brothers project" (i.e a right wing thing, which he had seen all through his political career up to that point....i.e cheap labour to undercut unions)......why this had broad appeal in the rust belt and forgotten/abandoned dems in general (w.r.t DC dem blob).

Why/how that was upset in short order by alinskyite dc-blob hillary dirty underhanded tactics, when clearly paid actors from some proto-BLM group race on stage, grab mic off bernie and start hollering over him over skin colour this and that....to sink his economic class and trad left argument.

Bernie could have been tough, but he cowered, retreated and ultimately got squelched by the DC blob, a fully beaten man and a husk now....and fully sub-servient to them....heres a couple holiday homes, change messaging to be anti-billionaire, from the old anti-millionaire one, since bernie becoming a millionaire.

These are just the summary points, I dont have time to get into hours of the rest of it about what happened with the blob acting as the blob does.

The trad leftie buddy still voted hillary that year, as anti-trump vote holding his nose for it. But he wont be voting 2024, just like he didnt vote in 2020.

But its clear to him which party is moving to make broad based coalition increasingly. It was funny, as much as he disagrees with Cenk Uyger on a ton of things....they pretty much had same reaction to the leftie-teamster union guy at the RNC just recently....that 100% a DNC convention would never allow that kind of speech.....its just too trad leftie for them haha.

i.e why would the GOP say no to what the DEM leaves behind (reliant on their fumes and vapour support from long ago yesteryear) in their continued windmill charge trysts and doubling down with the ivory tower?....and all spoiled brat and self hater and deeply anti american ideations involved in the intersectionality?

So if through it all, less federal govt size "sends back the dems to the states...at state by state level"....my trad leftie friend will be very receptive to that....finally compeuppance!...we can grapple with these squishes again etc...its time to fix this state issues before we promote you to DC. We arent going to hate our social conservative neighbour we live with and break bread with....cuz you sez so....those that actually hate us and ignore us and look over us....and take us for granted.

This is just one buddy of many others I have on the left. I dont even need to break into my centre and right wing buddies opinions on things to make the point I am making here.....since they are even further away from the DC blob mental illness.

The blob in the end is a peter pan spoiled brat complex driving it. You are free to check into its projection of fantasy....when you are either very wedded to it close by here.....or very far away and its notions is really all you have transmitted from the US of A.

But the US of A is ultimatley built on something else, you see that only when you have people you know and trust here. Its that simple.

Kipling describes it in a way in his 6 honest serving men....the importance of it being just 6 and HONEST....the importance of giving them a rest when needed because of the trust you build with maturity and experience.

To contrast with the young girl having millions of these all the time and over-exerting them in her innocent young age.

So grown ups staying infantile and deluded in todays world (and gravitating to leftist statist overreach simply to flex on other parts of the left they despise and then everyone else as well) is severely offputting. Their rejection of honesty and the value of trust.

The American people at large will continue to react to it, dont you worry about it....smooth things out and put them right back to where these utterly spoiled brats crawled out of, and the over-reactionaries from the right after that.

A dog is wagged by tail only so much...and only so long.
 

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IMHO failed assassination might be related to a clique inside the Republican Party. I guess they wanted to eliminate Trump and push VP candidate Vance up. It seems the Democrat candidate will lose no matter who the Republicans nominate. Vance is a shady figure.
 
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