Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

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Taliban winter unit.. Looks like all year long is a fighting season
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Here is a very interesting map annotated by me showing districts under Taliban control. The source is the respected American Long War Journal. What is of interest is Taliban have taken many Turkic districts bordering Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and even Tajikistan. Surprisingly this was achieved without much heavy fighting. The local tribes just changed sides. Changing sides appears to be common as opposed to pitch, bloody battles. This tells us that Taliban claim of being open to all Afghans is not just empty talk. There appears to be weak correlation between ethnic group and Taliban control. The Taliban heartland is in the region around Kandahar. Red is Taliban control.

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Has somebody posted this ?
I think this might be important going forward.

"Taliban spokesman speaking to TRT Arabi: Turkey is our brother, we want to establish good relations"

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Mujahid said, "We want good relations with Turkey, Turkey is our brother, we have many points in common based on faith. We want Turkey to leave the past and return to the present and the future. After that, we can ask for dialogue."


Zabihullah Mujahid, spokesman for the Taliban, said that they wanted support from Muslim countries for a political solution and ending the war in Afghanistan, and that they wanted to maintain good relations with Turkey.

Mujahid spoke to TRT Arabi on the withdrawal of foreign forces from Afghanistan, the operation of Kabul Airport and the peace negotiations between Afghans in Doha.

The spokesperson of the Taliban, arguing that the solution to the problem in Afghanistan is in an inclusive Islamic government, stated that they want to work with other countries to restore peace and security and start the rebuilding process.
Mujahid, who especially wanted support from Muslim countries for a political solution and ending the war in Afghanistan, stated that they wanted to have good relations with Turkey as well.

 

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Some people here need to watch this and see the genesis of the Taliban.

 

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Gen. Milley says Taliban appear to have ‘strategic momentum’​

By ROBERT BURNS


Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley speaks at a press briefing at the Pentagon, Wednesday, July 21, 2021 in Washington. (AP Photo/Kevin Wolf)
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Taliban appear to have “strategic momentum” in the fight for control of Afghanistan as they put increasing pressure on key cities, setting the stage for a decisive period in coming weeks as American forces complete their withdrawal, the top U.S. military officer said Wednesday.
“This is going to be a test now of the will and leadership of the Afghan people — the Afghan security forces and the government of Afghanistan,” Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Pentagon press conference.
The Pentagon says the U.S. withdrawal is 95% finished and will be completed by Aug. 31. And while the Biden administration has vowed to continue financial assistance and logistical support for Afghan forces after August, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the focus of U.S. military efforts there will be countering terrorist threats, not the Taliban.

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UNHCR warns of imminent humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan​

This is a summary of what was said by UNHCR spokesperson Babar Baloch – to whom quoted text may be attributed – at today's press briefing at the Palais des Nations in Geneva.
13 July 2021
Afghanistan. Worsening conflict in northern Afghanistan uproots thousands
A displaced Afghan woman prepares to light a fire to boil water at an IDP camp in Mazari Sharif, northern Afghanistan. © UNHCR/Edris Lutfi

UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, is warning of a looming humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan as the escalating conflict brings increased human suffering and civilian displacement.
An estimated 270,000 Afghans have been newly displaced inside the country since January 2021 – primarily due to insecurity and violence – bringing the total uprooted population to over 3.5 million.
Families forced to flee their homes in recent weeks cite the worsening security situation as the predominant reason for their flight.
In addition to ongoing fighting, displaced civilians have told UNHCR and partners of incidents of extortion by non-state armed groups and the presence of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) on major roads. Many have reported interruptions to social services and a loss of income due to rising insecurity.
The number of civilian casualties has risen 29 per cent during the first quarter of this year compared to 2020, according to UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan. An increasing proportion of women and children were among those targeted.
The needs of those who have had to flee suddenly are acute. UNHCR and partners, as part of a coordinated response, are assisting newly displaced Afghans with emergency shelter, food, health, water and sanitation support and cash assistance, despite challenges in accessing vulnerable groups.
The resilience of the Afghan people has been pushed to the limit by prolonged conflict, high levels of displacement, the impact of COVID-19, recurrent natural disasters, including drought, and deepening poverty. Some 65 per cent of the Afghan population – in and outside of Afghanistan – are children and young people.
A failure to reach a peace agreement in Afghanistan and stem the current violence will lead to further displacement within the country, as well as to neighbouring countries and beyond.
Iran and Pakistan host nearly 90 per cent of displaced Afghans - more than two million registered Afghan refugees in total. Both countries have granted access to territory and protection to Afghan refugees, along with health and educational services through national systems. Their hospitality and inclusive policies, spanning decades and generations, must not be taken for granted.
UNHCR welcomes the respective governments’ commitment to provide access to asylum amidst the global health and socio-economic challenges of COVID-19. We stand ready to bolster humanitarian support to all host countries in the case of additional arrivals.
We urge the international community to step up support to the Government and people of Afghanistan and its neighbours at this critical moment, in a spirit of solidarity and burden-sharing.
Humanitarian resources are currently falling dramatically short. UNHCR’s financial appeal for the Afghanistan situation (including operations for Afghan refugees in Pakistan and Iran) remains acutely underfunded, at only 43 per cent of a total US$ 337 million required.

 

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Too much love coming for Pakistan, Pakistan never supported IEA but still every one blame every thing on Pakistan. Losers are only those who are kicked out and achieved nothing other then killing million of muslim's.

IEA wanted foreign forces to get out from Afghanistan and they are leaving, IEA considers it a victory.

Pakistani Taliban / TTP is a terrorist organization and is treated as such by your "Islamist fanboys, leftists and Pakistanis" and are send to hell in mass.

You are pissed b/z IEA want you to get out so it is understandable, But efforts are made to settle the issue politically facilitated by Pakistan. I personally would love that Turkey and IEA solves their issues politically.

No, I can call a hypocrisy when I see it, next time TTP kill your soldiers and want to implement the same laws in your country make sure you don't cry here. Sit on the table with them and come to terms, your good Talibs even said they will facilitate it. And get ready to welcome millions more Afghan refugees.

If Turkey stays I understand there are geostrategic reasons for it, Taliban will be stupid to be hostile to Turkey, Turkey has faced bigger foes and successfully changed the status quo at worst odds. This is not a comparison of strength vs US and USSR, simply a matter of strategy and coming to terms. Your only pissed because Turkey is working firstly with the Afghan government and that Pakistan is no longer the only player in Afghanistan, because you have some "one state" idea in your mind.

Your ok with seeing ordinary Afghans suffer across the border under Taliban but oppose the same Afghans when they cause chaos in your country, blame it on India. Your public was cheering Taliban flags at the border until they saw the same flags on the streets of Pakistan. I for one want to see an internationally recognised, stable Afghanistan where Afghans have more to eat then one slice of tandoor bread.

Your compulsive denial of Pakistani support for Taliban is hilarious. Who you guys think your fooling.
 
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No, I can call a hypocrisy when I see it, next time TTP kill your soldiers and want to implement the same laws in your country make sure you don't cry here. Sit on the table with them and come to terms, your good Talibs even said they will facilitate it. And get ready to welcome millions more Afghan refugees.

If Turkey stays I understand there are geostrategic reasons for it, Taliban will be stupid to be hostile to Turkey, Turkey has faced bigger foes and successfully changed the status quo at worst odds. This is not a comparison of strength vs US and USSR, simply a matter of strategy and coming to terms. Your only pissed because Turkey is working firstly with the Afghan government and that Pakistan is no longer the only player in Afghanistan, because you have some "one state" idea in your mind.

Your ok with seeing ordinary Afghans suffer across the border under Taliban but oppose the same Afghans when they cause chaos in your country, blame it on India. Your public was cheering Taliban flags at the border until they saw the same flags on the streets of Pakistan. I for one want to see an internationally recognised, stable Afghanistan where Afghans have more to eat then one slice of tandoor bread.

Your compulsive denial of Pakistani support for Taliban is hilarious. Who you guys think your fooling.

You are spewing alot of garbage that doesn't reflect on Turkey's state policies or interests nor of that in Pakistan.. You are speaking with different tongue that doesn't represent anything on the ground both in Turkey, Pakistan or for the Afghan people.. Which is also far from reality here..

I can addresse and tell you what is really up and explain it to you but it will be going off topic and waste of time... But to put it short whatever you piled down here is from a parallel alternative reality not this world's geo-politics.. This doesn't even warrant further reply because it is an alien opinion and foreign element to the current geo-politics in these said 3 countries... This is equal to someone intending to paint a monalissa ending up painting A Quasimodo or Zombie

 
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You are spewing alot of garbage that doesn't reflect on Turkey's state policies or interests nor of that in Pakistan.. You are speaking with different tongue that doesn't represent on the ground both in Turkey, Pakistan or the Afghan people.. Which is also far from reality here..

I can addresse and tell you what is really up and explain it to you but it will be going off topic and waste of time

I fully support Turkish state policy in Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iraq everywhere including Afghanistan, your ad hominem attacks and language prove you have nothing to counter, and yes please save us time from your conspiracy theories, every foreign agency supports their foes terrorists, when the violence spills over in the form of TTP and ISIS your tone will change, so why wish it on your neighbour.

For a nation that has lost 70 thousand people to terrorism you are rather short sighted, but that is it, I can call terrorism for what it is even when it crosses the border and changes clothes.
 

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Dear Members;

Please express your opinions in a way that does not contain personal insults. Any opposing idea can express themselves freely as long as they comply with the forum rules.
 

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So I can I ask you a question. Would you welcome Kabul regime's laws in your country?

This is a question you should be asking your fellow countrymen here, would they welcome a Taliban type regime in Pakistan? With the same laws, If not why endorse this in Afghanistan.

You know the answer, with the recognised government that has international support Afghanistan may see some form of democracy and resemblance to a 21st century governance, with Taliban it sure won't. No one ever claimed it is perfect.

Same question for you? Are you happy to ditch the progress Pakistan has made in democracy for a Taliban copy regime?
 

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This is a question you should be asking your fellow countrymen here, would they welcome a Taliban type regime in Pakistan? With the same laws, If not why endorse this in Afghanistan.

You know the answer, with the recognised government that has international support Afghanistan may see some form of democracy and resemblance to a 21st century governance, with Taliban it sure won't. No one ever claimed it is perfect.

Same question for you? Are you happy to ditch the progress Pakistan has made in democracy for a Taliban copy regime?

Why did Turkey go after PKK in Iraq and Syria when you understand the reasons for that you will understand Pakistan's reasons... Everything is not black and white... I put it to you subtle Pakistan will not tolerate an enemy on it's western border even if it has to take military action.. And you are here sugarcoating Afghan gov't we are not even at that level.. This has nothing to do with whos better and what not in ideology... ANA will bring anti-elements of Pakistan into our border areas plus they become a major security risk as Pakistan is focussed on the eastern border it can't have elements that is allied to the eastern border... Not in this lifetime so sugarcoating them will not change that fact.... It is like a rain that falls on a desert nothing grows out from it... I don't give a flying F' about there democracy or what not they are a security threat on the long term
 

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Dont need a Paki former Hindu
Even if you are a Turk you certainly have gained status as honourable Indian. This is one of the favourite go to remarks by infantile Indians hurled at Pakistani's. I particularly don't mind the former - personally I would prefer to be called a 'Paki' rather than a Indian [anything but Indian please], Asian, Muslim although the 'former Hindu' does jar me.

First of all people were former 'something' and secondly while some Pakistan will indeed have been proto-Hindus but this is not applicable to all. Many were Zoroatrian, Buddhist, Animists etc.

As a matter of historical fact most Indian's were animists before being converted to Hindusim. Vedics came from the Af-Pak region and then moved into Punjab plains where Vedic faith took root before spreading into modern India. In short we gave Indians even their religion and even the name 'Hindu'.

No need to thank us though!

Have a quick look at this map showing the genesis of Vedic period in what is today Pakistan and then actually spreading east into what is today India. Just to make it easy to understand I have marked in red the capitals of both - Islamabad, Pakistan, New Delhi, India. You can who got converted by who.

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This is a question you should be asking your fellow countrymen here, would they welcome a Taliban type regime in Pakistan? With the same laws, If not why endorse this in Afghanistan.
I can put that question to you as well. Since I support Taliban and from that you rationalise that I would want Taliban rule in Pakistan as well and thus ask the question.

Now by following the same logic - you appear to support Kabul regime. Would you want Kabul regime to rule your country?

Your equating 'support' with wanting what is subject of that support in your own home. I don't think this is true but if it is then I will say 'yes' to Taliban on the proviso you say 'yes' to Kabul regime that you support.

Are you happy to ditch the progress Pakistan has made in democracy for a Taliban copy regime?
Same question to you as well. Are you prepared to bury century of progress under Ataturk's vision with Kabul regimes clone in Ankara. If your answer is you will happily accept Kabul clone in Ankara my answer isa I will accept Taliban in Islamabad.

If you expect me to shove my boot up my posterior - kindly you shove yours up there also.
 

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Why did Turkey go after PKK in Iraq and Syria when you understand the reasons for that you will understand Pakistan's reasons... Everything is not black and white... I put it to you subtle Pakistan will not tolerate an enemy on it's western border even if it has to take military action.. And you are here sugarcoating Afghan gov't we are not even at that level.. This has nothing to do with whos better and what not in ideology... ANA will bring anti-elements of Pakistan into our border areas plus they become a major security risk as Pakistan is focussed on the eastern border it can't have elements that is allied to the eastern border... Not in this lifetime so sugarcoating them will not change that fact.... It is like a rain that falls on a desert nothing grows out from it... I don't give a flying F' about there democracy or what not they are a security threat on the long term

Comparison is invalid, Iraq is harbouring a terrorist organisation (PKK) with or without the consent of the government. Turkey however is not toppling the Iraqi government with a branch of the PPK in Iraq while calling the PKK terrorists when they cross the border. PKK are terrorists simple as. Where as Pakistani consensus is that Taliban is good and bad depending on which side of the border they are in.

Turkey's solution has been to try work with the Iraqi government and create a buffer zone in Iraq. Pakistan's solution is to support Taliban against the Afghan government and blame India and the Afghan government when a natural branch of the Taliban TTP carries out a cross border raid.

I don't care about your ideology, only your hypocrisy and sugar coating Taliban as good guys depending on where they are because it is in your interests to do so.
 
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