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The number of US troops in Afghanistan was very low since late 2014. So current withdrawal is more symbolic than real.

US could quietly reduce numbers but they decided to do it openly causing panic and fall of morale.

Seems like they wish to fall it as soon as possible.
 

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The number of US troops in Afghanistan was very low since late 2014. So current withdrawal is more symbolic than real.

US could quietly reduce numbers but they decided to do it openly causing panic and fall of morale.

Seems like they wish to fall it as soon as possible.
They fall like a domino.
One by one.
Perhaps Kabul is the last stand,
before total collapse.
 

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Honestly this war has to end i think both sides need to come to the table.

Afghans have had enough of war let the country rebuild and heal. Both sides should be willing to compromise for peace.
It will end eventually, the VP as well as Ghani's are already leaving or planning to leave soon.

I'd say once Ghani is confirmed fled, the other provincial capital will surrender.

It's a shame really 20 years and trillions of $ comes into this .
 

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The number of US troops in Afghanistan was very low since late 2014. So current withdrawal is more symbolic than real.

US could quietly reduce numbers but they decided to do it openly causing panic and fall of morale.

Seems like they wish to fall it as soon as possible.
It's in their interest, they don't have the will or the resources to fight an insurgency while increasingly in competition with China.

Maybe their calculus is that if Afghanistan is left to be ruled by extremist, in the long run it'll help them ease their own burden in Europe and in the Pacific. Because let's face it, Russia and China (both US adversary) doesn't like islamist fundamentalists ruling in the backyard either.
 

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It will end eventually, the VP as well as Ghani's are already leaving or planning to leave soon.

I'd say once Ghani is confirmed fled, the other provincial capital will surrender.

It's a shame really 20 years and trillions of $ comes into this .
not a shame but strategic blunder if the talibs were left in piece they probably would not learn how the modern world function until today and they would be busy to organize governing until today. now they spent 20 years learning and adapting which will create even bigger strategic threats after their sucssessfull victory and consolidation. with possible money influx from china their relevance will gradually increase.
 

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with possible money influx from china their relevance will gradually increase.
I suggest you read SIGAR reports on Afghanistan (also called Afghan papers) on why throwing money in Afghanistan actually create problem for the donors.

I'm a sceptic if the Talibs will ever transform into what people called a pragmatic and modern government. they are a fundamentalists. Even if they said not, and China will have to live with that and the possibilities it could create in China's border.
 

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Wait the USA has a soldier with two moms??

Wasnt that suppose to be a game changer in this war??
 

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Kandahar AB surrendered, so now only the wings in Kabul and Mazar remains, that is if the air wing in Mazar had not yet been transferred to Kabul.
 

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I suggest you read SIGAR reports on Afghanistan (also called Afghan papers) on why throwing money in Afghanistan actually create problem for the donors.

I'm a sceptic if the Talibs will ever transform into what people called a pragmatic and modern government. they are a fundamentalists. Even if they said not, and China will have to live with that and the possibilities it could create in China's border.
Moeny is trown into the river and contractors pockets, irrelevant for Afganistan today amd future, let the journalists in west dig around it.

There are different kinds of pragmatism, hardcore religious governance does not exlude that way of thinking. China will be tempted with resources to cut some deals they are also pragmatic and calculant regime.

Antitaliban people shluld swallow the pill and accept talibans as best possible outcome from continous mess in last 50 years. World moves on and there are bigger issues in it.
 

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if Kabul fell without a fight, the Talibs will have in it's inventory the following:

AircraftOriginTypeVariantIn serviceNotes
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Transport
Helicopters
Cessna 208United Statesground attack / ISRAC-20810[76]
A-29 Super TucanoBrazilCOIN / attack19[76]
Boeing 727United StatesVIP transport1[77]former aircraft from Ariana Afghan Airlines[78]
C-130 HerculesUnited StatestransportC-130H4[76]
Cessna 208United Statestransport / utility24[76]
Pilatus PC-12Switzerlandtransport / utilityPC-12NG18[76][79]assigned to the Special Mission Wing
Mil Mi-17RussiautilityMi-8/1795[76]56 aircraft are in use with the Special Mission Wing[80]
Mil Mi-24RussiaattackMi-258[76]
Bell UH-1United StatesutilityUH-1H10[76]
HAL CheetahIndiautility3[76]
Sikorsky UH-60United StatesutilityUH-60A16143 on order[81]
MD500 DefenderUnited Stateslight attack / trainingMD 530F6810 on order[76]


although it's in question if Taliban AF could sustain this once it got in their hands, consider no one is willing to sell them them spare parts.
 

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Moeny is trown into the river and contractors pockets, irrelevant for Afganistan today amd future,
That means you haven't read the report, never mind.
Antitaliban people shluld swallow the pill and accept talibans as best possible outcome from continous mess in last 50 years. World moves on and there are bigger issues in it.
it depends on what outcomes they bring, especially to the irks of it's neighbors. from the look of it, not one is happy (except Pakistan).
 

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