Live Conflict War in Afghanistan
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Lets wait if it would be official
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I think 'abysmal' is word that fits Indian Army. It has not even managed to capture the shred of Jammu Kashmir that Pakistan conquered in 1948. A mile for Indian Army is like a 10,000 miles for other armies or it would have captured Lahore is which is sat within eyelash of the Indian border. And this is a army of the second largest country on earth with population greater than the combined continents of North America, Europe and then some. Anyway this thread is not for this. We can show the naked Indian posterior in another thread.
Thanks for your thoughts. In the real world, scholars disagree through undisputed facts which contrary to your amusing and naive narrative but I can see why reality bites someone from Pakistan. I do not wish to comment on your fetishes with posteriors, naked or not. To each his own.
@Kaptaan and other members who wish to read neutral accounts and not let this thread be derailed into an Indo-Pak slugfest.
I've started this thread and posted 5 neutral accounts with page numbers. Those having a counter narrative from neutral sources, feel free to do so. Thus this thread can remain about Afghanistan
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I've started this thread and posted 5 neutral accounts with page numbers. Those having a counter narrative from neutral sources, feel free to do so. Thus this thread can remain about Afghanistan
Historical - Kargil War - Neutral Accounts
I'll start with some neutral accounts of the most recent war between India and Pakistan - the war in Kargil in 1999. To help people interested in history - I've not only given the name of the book, but also the page number. Others feel free to add sources or counter narratives Source 1...
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I like the word 'neutral'. So these people have neutral third party sources? No. They will merely regurgitate what they garner from Indian or Pakistani sources.
They are neither Indian, nor Pakistani - thus by large eliminating biases. Of course some might be biased like Dr. Fair but outliers in scholarly circles can't take away from the mainstream conclusion.
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Prevention of humanitarian crisis, economic meltdown in Afghanistan key priorities, FM Qureshi tells virtual moot
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Wednesday stressed that the prevention of a humanitarian crisis and economic meltdown in Afghanistan were key priorities in the wake of recent developments in the country that saw the Taliban take over Kabul and the formation of an interim government.
Qureshi was addressing a virtual meeting of foreign ministers of Afghanistan's neighbours — China, Iran, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan — to discuss developments in the war-ravaged country. The meeting came a day after the Taliban’s announcement of an interim government.
"In the wake of recent developments in the country, the key priorities are to prevent a humanitarian crisis that can exacerbate the sufferings of Afghans. Equally important is to take steps to prevent [an] economic meltdown in the country.
"If a humanitarian crisis is prevented and economic stability is assured, then peace can be consolidated and a mass exodus precluded," Qureshi said.
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He stressed that the efforts required the enhanced engagement of the international community at this "pivotal juncture".
"Renewed diplomatic and international presence in the country would reassure the Afghan people," he added.
Qureshi said urgent provision of humanitarian assistance with the UN and its various agencies playing a leading role would reinforce the confidence-building process. The foreign minister pointed out that Afghanistan's access to its financial resources would be "pivotal" in preventing an economic collapse and reviving economic activity.
FM Qureshi said recent events had "catapulted" the region to a global spotlight, adding that "how the situation evolves will have profound implications for Afghanistan, our region and the world at large".
"It is clear that no one could anticipate the recent turn of events from the meltdown of security forces to the collapse of the Afghanistan government.
"All previous assessments and predictions proved wrong," he said.
Qureshi pointed out that "much-dreaded bloodshed" had not occurred, a protracted conflict and civil war had also been averted, a mass exodus of refugees had not yet taken place and the situation remained "complex and fluid".
"We all are grappling with a changed reality in Afghanistan," he said, adding that the formation of a caretaker Afghan setup had been noted and expressed the hope for political stabilisation leading to normalcy.
"The new situation requires discarding old lenses, developing new insights and proceeding with a realistic and pragmatic approach. At the centre of our endeavours must remain the well-being of the Afghan people who have suffered enormously due to conflict and instability for over 40 years."
Results of regional diplomacy tour
The foreign minister also mentioned his diplomacy tour to the Central Asian States and Iran last month, saying he had detailed discussions during the trip. "We agreed on charting a way forward that would help address common challenges and realise the opportunities that may arise out of the latest developments," he said.
He said consultations had highlighted the following issues that would require a coordinated approach as the situation in Afghanistan evolved:
- Security situation along the borders
- Prevention of Afghan soil being used by terrorist entities
- Possibility of a fresh influx of refugees
- Containing drug trafficking and transnational crimes
- Stemming any spread of extremist elements
- Challenges relating to the Covid-19 pandemic
- Impediments to regional connectivity
"We also agreed there are rich dividends if peace is secured in Afghanistan," he said, pointing to secure borders, end of terrorist threats from Afghan soil, return of refugees, economic stability, improvement in living standards, the realisation of connectivity projects and enhanced regional economic integration.
Qureshi stressed that Afghanistan must be enabled to pass through "this testing time and realise its full potential" in order to advance a common vision of a "peaceful, stable, prosperous and interconnected region".
He explained that there were several key principles that should guide efforts towards this direction:
- Affirm full support and solidarity with the Afghan people
- Reaffirm full commitment to unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Afghanistan
- Stress that Afghan issues should have Afghan solutions
- Make clear that Afghan soil is not allowed to be used against any country
- Underscore the multi-ethnic nature of Afghan society
- Stress the importance of national reconciliation
The foreign minister suggested turning the platform of neighbouring countries into a regular consultative mechanism to which Afghanistan should also be invited in the future.
"Participation of Afghanistan will augment this forum's effectiveness in pursuing our shared objectives for lasting peace and stability in Afghanistan.
"The neighbouring countries have a direct stake in Afghanistan's stability. Our collective voice to the international community will reinforce our message of a peaceful, stable and prosperous Afghanistan at peace with itself and its neighbours," he explained.
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This is gonna be my last reply to you on this thread as I do not want to derail this. This thread is on Afghanistan. But I will say this. India has a population greater than all of Europe, North America, Middle East put together and Pakistan should have been wiped off the map long time ago. What saved us is most of that 1.4 billion are less than males. A few Sikhs and others is the only real men. Please note this is my last comment on this subject on this thread. I will address this in another thread when I have time./
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Will not be surprised if Iran eventually clash with the Taliban directly or indirectly using it's militias in the future.
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echoing my earlier post about hardliner vs moderate camps. Taliban is walking on a tightrope
Twitter user (Panjshir_Province) who claimed he is from panjshir and is AT panjshir, Bunch of liars backed by liars :
