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Indonesia kek perlu deh untuk ngembangin riset lebih jauh dan produksi untuk submunition yang digunakan oleh roket dan artillery system yang kita punya. HEAT, HE, frags, Incendiary ammunition, cluster bombs bahkan roket penyebar ranjau. Even napalm dan fosfor putih ....
 

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How about trying project eldest son?
Put extra explosive in the bullet that will explode in the barrel, destroying the gun and potentially injuring the person wielding the gun, or just put satellite tracker to gain more information about them (secret hideouts, accomplices, rally point etc), later we can just raid them.
We can let them have the modified bullet via "oknum" or spy that sell it to them.
 

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starstreak udah sampe ukraina, saya malah penasaran sama kemampuan nya buat melumpuhkan target darat kaya APC, IFV, atau MBT.

bayangin tungsten penetrator APFSDS tiga butir + (450g PBX-98 explosive filler) terbang mach 4 ke MBT.

ada yang tau ekivalensi nya PBX-98 sama TNT ?
No idea about their effects on armored vehicles. But what i know is this:

Russian helicopter pilot: *releasing flare to disturb infrared guided missile*

Ukrainian with Starstreak: “Fool. The only thing i need to kill you is by keep my aim to you till the pop came out of you, for flare means nothing” *launch their Starstreak*

Remember, aiming at your target to pop the missile to your target potentially made you sitting duck and static, its not fire and forget stuff.
 

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No idea about their effects on armored vehicles. But what i know is this:

Russian helicopter pilot: *releasing flare to disturb infrared guided missile*

Ukrainian with Starstreak: “Fool. The only thing i need to kill you is by keep my aim to you till the pop came out of you, for flare means nothing” *launch their Starstreak*

Remember, aiming at your target to pop the missile to your target potentially made you sitting duck and static, its not fire and forget stuff.
it's not, but at mach 4 when reaching it's target, it won't be a long sitting.
 

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starstreak is a kinetic kill system, not like other manpads which is either shaped charge or fragmentation explosion, had 3 tungsten penetrator dart filled with 450g of PBX explosive as it's explosive filler.

what i mean APFSDS tungsten penetrator is like the one on cannon fired munition .
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starstreak tungsten penetrator dart.
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starstreak is a kinetic kill system, not like other manpads which is either shaped charge or fragmentation explosion, had 3 tungsten penetrator dart filled with 450g of PBX explosive as it's explosive filler.

what i mean APFSDS tungsten penetrator is like the one on cannon fired munition .
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starstreak tungsten penetrator dart.
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Everytime i heard Tungsten, i remember ODIN or LOKI from COD Ghosts wkwk, no joke. My childhood was filled with violence
 

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now you've mentioned it, i wonder if our steel industry able to produce such metal for military purpose...
Tungsten is element (unsur) tho. Its not like steel that made through binding of atoms of different elements. Ya, maybe when its extracted, the tungsten are still binded with other elements like nickel, so it needs to be purified to get pure tungsten. That process of purification that maybe need more investment, for production means invesments to the tool of productions for investment means modal.
 

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