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Kind of out to talk about airplane hijacking lol. Interesting things that just to know.

If your airplane hijacked, set the transponder (written XPDR in small aircraft Garmin PFD/MFD softkey) to squawk ‘7500’

Lost comm, ‘7600’

Emergency or distress, ‘7700’
 

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good read bagi yg mau baca perihal golden age militer Indonesia hingga embargo Soviet dan aftermath nya
 

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good read bagi yg mau baca perihal golden age militer Indonesia hingga embargo Soviet dan aftermath nya
Old but gold
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Sexy Cold War history here... I was ever uploaded about it in Reddit, but maybe never here.

SATIRE

-US: Dutch, i got intel from U-2 Squadron in Taiwan that Soviet deploy their submarines to Bitung, North Sulawesi.

-Dutch: Damn it. I have a goosebumps now.

And at the end, that was enough to deter the Dutch.
US and Soviet were ever put their forces there in North Sulawesi lol. US not forces sih de jure, their CIA’s Civil Air Transport that became Air America as AUREV of the Permesta, but still.

Evert Kawilarang fleed his position as defense attache in DC to Manado joined Permesta went brrrr

 

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Indeed, PK Ojong was een van ons (term used by people with PSI–ish thinking to others with same)

”Gigih dan konsisten terlibat dalam kerja besar membangun Indonesia Baru yang bersendikan kesamaan martabat manusia, menghayati kemanusiaan, tidak mengenal diskriminasi, dan berkesejahteraan sosial dengan pilar keadilan sosial. Pandangan dan sikap hidup kemasyarakatannya lebih dekat dengan Bung Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir, Soedjatmoko, Mohamad Roem, daripada yang lain.” (Jakob Oetama)

Soedjatmoko with his Gelanggang of Siasat magazine with CCF (Congress for Cultural Freedom) linked support said hi, sweet Soska (Sosialis Kanan) freedom loving people. Then he made ‘Democratic League’ to fought against Soekarno Guided Democracy, Gen. Yani and Soekendro (Army) was known to supported it.
 
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0:11 Did he just say "tembak tembak tembak" ?
 

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https://globalnation.inquirer.net/2...rnL4eBSR_IwfNl_Lmw-QCsWZSzSPH48iHLwctUtKe7XZ4

Navantia offer to Philippines > 2 unit S-80 submarine (80 meters+AIP) = 1.7 billion USD
NG offeer to Indonesia > 2 unit Scorpene Lithium-ion (70 meters no AIP) = 2.1 Billion USD
👀

They should buy cheap CBG subs instead, US$1.02 bil for three.

Btw, can't wait to see the fight between our Li-ion Scorpene against Aukus nuclear sub down the south. If the French could give us the LACM for our Scorpene it'd be swell.
 

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Lah iya ya
 

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Untuk aset terbang kita tingkat kecelakaan juga lumayan tinggi, dan untuk pespur beberapa waktu dulu F-16 tidak berselang lama terjadi insiden secara beruntun tapi untung sekarang tidak lagi, cuman hawk yang beberapa waktu lalu ada beberapa insiden.
Jangan sampe baru terjadi kecelakaan trus niat modernisasi alutsista.

Pespur kita tua semua yang paling baru T50 itupun juga LIFT, tentunya urgen butuh pasokan pespur baru. Untuk tipe/merek/harga/pabrikan sih tinggal mengikuti perkembangan saja lalu diambil yang paling cocok.
Untuk Rafale dan F-15EX yang lumayan mahal, barang premium sih.
 

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US partner in NE Syria, YPG (YAT) with PKK flag lol.

The YPG de jure operates in Syria, so have no problem with Turkey.
 

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Untuk aset terbang kita tingkat kecelakaan juga lumayan tinggi, dan untuk pespur beberapa waktu dulu F-16 tidak berselang lama terjadi insiden secara beruntun tapi untung sekarang tidak lagi, cuman hawk yang beberapa waktu lalu ada beberapa insiden.
Jangan sampe baru terjadi kecelakaan trus niat modernisasi alutsista.
Nah itu mangkannya..... Empati ni orang-orang bisa naik turun gitu tergantung sama narasi hari ini yang mereka mau dorong.
 

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https://www.navalnews.com/event-new...ine-to-feature-both-aip-and-li-ion-batteries/

Apakah bisa lithium-ion menggantikan peran AIP agar kasel bisa submerged berminggu-minggu tanpa kepermukaan? Berkaca pada KSS 3 Korsel yg memakai gabungan AIP+Lithium-ion, lama submergednya cuma 20 harian, gak ada bedanya dengan kasel yg cuma pakai AIP. Lithium-ion ini menambah masa submerged atau tidak sebenarnya?
Kayaknya kurang tepat penerjemahannya

"Batch-2 submarines will have both AIP propulsion systems and lithium-ion batteries, which will increase the submerged endurance to more than 20 days at sea.”

cuma 20 harian ngga sama maknanya dengan more than 20 days,

Setauku, Kasel konvensional, dengan baterai lead-acid tanpa AIP itu bisa submerge sekitar 3-4 hari dengan full baterai tanpa snorkel. Kalo snorkelan ya bisa terus terusan aja sampe abis bensin.

Terus buat AIP, umumnya, AIP only itu bisa buat kasel tetep kerendem sekitar 2 minggu / 14 hari

"The present record – set by an HDW Class 212A submarine – is 14 days"

I quoted it from the MTU website, as from the Wikipedia article of Type 212A says

"The submarines can operate at high speed on diesel power or switch to the AIP system for silent slow cruising, staying submerged for up to three weeks with little exhaust heat. The system is also said to be vibration-free and virtually undetectable."

It is unclear where that 3 weeks comes from, usually wikipedia will attach some footnotes to other more credible link. Sometimes Wikipedia can be misleading,

I remember one time in 2018 when i read article about KRI Cakra in Wikipedia it nonchalantly says " Kapal ini membawa 16 VLS SSBN" without any footnotes and proper source link attached. I got so confused and spent the entire day cross checking that, until i'm confident that that was total misleading, and later i edited it.

Jadi kembali lagi, AIP itu cukup buat bawa kapal selam submerge buat sekitar 14 hari, tergantung tipe, tapi umumnya seperti itu, jika ditambah baterai jadi yaaa give or take 16-18 hari. Meanwhile, AIP FC2G Naval Group dia confident banget dalam video demontrasinya bilang kalo FC2G bisa tahan sampe 20 hari, only AIP tanpa baterai.

Nah kalo buat Lithium-Ion, sesudah berkeliling dari banyak artikel, aku ngga nemu angka yang pasti buat berapa lama dia bisa submerge, tapi aku optimis dia pasti lebih lama dari Lead-Acid, tapi mungkin nggak selama AIP FC2G. Buat mencatat angka semisal 7 hari hanya dengan baterai aja udah cukup impresif. Mengingat ukuran kapal selam yang masih tetap, volume baterai yang mungkin relatif sama hanya dengan teknologi yang berbeda itu udah improvement. Ditambah dia bisa lebih stabil output daya dan lebih cepet ngecasnya.

Jepang mulai mempertimbangin buat ninggalin AIP Stirlingnya sama total full Lithium Ion battery.
"But now Japan wants to eliminate AIP technology altogether without losing its benefits"

Dia bilangnya meninggalkan AIP tanpa kehilangan kemampuannya, ngga bilang meningkatkan performanya. Maksudnya hanya AIP atau Li-Ion saja kemampuannya dimaksud sama atau setara.

Tapi Korsel malah pake AIP dan Li-Ion sekaligus, ya artinya mereka saling complementing, makin sangat lama submergenya.
 

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