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Pindah!!! Gue capek kalo dah Pilplres/Pilkada/Isu sensitive dikit-dikit demo. Macetnya jadi nguler kemana-mana, yg naik busway sampai harus pindah rute, yg naik mobil/motor pribadi kena macet berjam-jam, abang ojol orderan sepi, dll. Yg denger berita mungkin ga capek, tp yg tinggal dan punya banyak aktivitas di sekitar jalur demo terasa menyebalkan. Biarin itu yg mau demo suruh pindah ke Kalimantan aja :LOL: :LOL:
Mau dipindah ibukotanya atau aparatur pemerintahannya saja? Kalau di Malaysia ibukotanya di Kuala Lumpur tapi aparatur pemerintah (government building dsb) di Putrajaya
 

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Pindah!!! Gue capek kalo dah Pilplres/Pilkada/Isu sensitive dikit-dikit demo. Macetnya jadi nguler kemana-mana, yg naik busway sampai harus pindah rute, yg naik mobil/motor pribadi kena macet berjam-jam, abang ojol orderan sepi, dll. Yg denger berita mungkin ga capek, tp yg tinggal dan punya banyak aktivitas di sekitar jalur demo terasa menyebalkan. Biarin itu yg mau demo suruh pindah ke Kalimantan aja :LOL: :LOL:
Situ masih enak hidup di ibukota masih ada transportasi umum murah meriah. Kita2x yg tinggal di Kampoeng ini sehari harinya udah kesulitan mulai transportasi umum dan infrastruktur (listrik & telekomunikasi)

It takes a lot of time for pondering until i reach some conclusion that the capital was kinda " closed " by design . All the big entrance Project building are projected on the surrounding area yet , never in the center proper ...
I could be kind of wrong here tho'..
Ada lah itu gate masuk tepat ditengahnya.Gambarnya aja resolusi rendah (biasa orang Indon kalau posting mana ada yg HD)

Perkosya numpang liwet :( :D
Wo0i! sini dulu bayar❗

Mau dipindah ibukotanya atau aparatur pemerintahannya saja? Kalau di Malaysia ibukotanya di Kuala Lumpur tapi aparatur pemerintah (government building dsb) di Putrajaya
Beruk Malon semenanjung 🇲🇾jangan ditiru, ga baik. Mereka juga bukan bangsa baik2x dari track record sejarahnya

Ini pemindahan ibukota khan sudah visi nya sejak jaman Bung Karno dulu. Selain itu dari sisi politik domestik kallau ibukota masih seperti sekarang bisa di recokin trus2x-an oleh kelompok2x yg ingin memecah belah persatuan & kesatuan bangsa.
 

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ITu yg pd pakai "Gaming chair" apa ga capek punggung & fantat nya❓Kalau gamer serius pakai reclining high seat biar nyaman dan ga capek di punggung & fantat
rate my setup

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Right now Captain America is taking his new job seriously, nonetheless he is still trying to save the world whatever the odds.
 

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hmm i do wonder in somewhat alternate universe where there's no embargo happen and no krismon in 97 what would happen to our military project at that time.

license made hawk (seperti visi habibie),
F-16 with local content,
more 209 sub,
korvet nasional (atau frigate lupa),
etc,

not to mention most of civilian project and industry that were shutdown post soeharto-era.
 

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hmm i do wonder in somewhat alternate universe where there's no embargo happen and no krismon in 97 what would happen to our military project at that time.

license made hawk (seperti visi habibie),
F-16 with local content,
more 209 sub,
korvet nasional (atau frigate lupa),
etc,

not to mention most of civilian project and industry that were shutdown post soeharto-era.

If everything is like what had been expected during the early 90's, Indonesian Air Force would like to operated at least 96 Hawk 109/209, 64 F16 OCU/Block 32, E2C Hawkeye, 64 CN235 and other stuff. The Army would be finalized their Scud C order, 400 or more Scorpion light tanks with license assembly lines, the Navy had put order for additional four unit U209, there is 16 KorNas with Italy and more FPB 57 NAV with anti surface capability.

And there is also local Giant industry manufacturing like Texmaco Heavy Industry
 

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If everything is like what had been expected during the early 90's, Indonesian Air Force would like to operated at least 96 Hawk 109/209, 64 F16 OCU/Block 32, E2C Hawkeye, 64 CN235 and other stuff. The Army would be finalized their Scud C order, 400 or more Scorpion light tanks with license assembly lines, the Navy had put order for additional four unit U209, there is 16 KorNas with Italy and more FPB 57 NAV with anti surface capability.

And there is also local Giant industry manufacturing like Texmaco Heavy Industry
this what i hope how we should do procurement program today, semuanya engga terlalu ambisius, start dari kecil2 dulu + bikin industri pendukung.

mumpung lagi bahas alternate universe, ini yang saya khayalkan untuk alutsista kita 😄,
AL
10-12 PKR atau korvet SIGMA untuk gantikan kelas Parchim dan Fatahillah.
6 Iver untuk gantikan van speijk.
6 kasel CBG + 6 Type 214/scorpene (total 12)
2 tambahan LPD jadi total 6.

AU
32-48 F-16 Viper untuk gantikan hawk (minta produksi lokal) + upgrade 33 existing F-16 jadi Viper (if can), jadi total 65-81.
50 KF-21 untuk gantikan sukhoi series kita + mungkin F5 (untuk F5 stopgap pake f16 sambil nunggu KF-21 kelar).
17 T50 tambahan, jadi total 32.
24 C130J untuk gantikan C130 lama.
23 C295 tambahan, jadi total 32 (minta lisensi).
3-4 E-7 gantikan 737-2X9.
5-6 P-8 (di operasikan gabungan dengan AL) dan mungkin cn235mpa / c295mpa di transfer ke AL.

well one can dream 😂
 
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this what i hope how we should do procurement program today, semuanya engga terlalu ambisius, start dari kecil2 dulu + bikin industri pendukung.

mumpung lagi bahas alternate universe, ini yang saya khayalkan untuk alutsista kita 😄,
AL
10-12 PKR atau korvet SIGMA untuk gantikan kelas Parchim dan Fatahillah.
6 Iver untuk gantikan van speijk.
6 kasel CBG + 6 Type 214/scorpene (total 12)
2 tambahan LPD jadi total 6.

AU
32-48 F-16 Viper untuk gantikan hawk (minta produksi lokal) + upgrade 33 existing F-16 jadi Viper (if can), jadi total 65-81.
50 KF-21 untuk gantikan sukhoi series kita + mungkin F5 (untuk F5 stopgap pake f16 sambil nunggu KF-21 kelar).
17 T50 tambahan, jadi total 32.
24 C130J untuk gantikan C130 lama.
23 C295 tambahan, jadi total 32 (minta lisensi).
3-4 E-7 gantikan 737-2X9.
5-6 P-8 (di operasikan gabungan dengan AL) dan mungkin cn235mpa / c295mpa di transfer ke AL.

well one can dream 😂
 

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