Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

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Laugh of the day. Was this plain Agosta or Agosta upgrades by Turkish Defence Contractors?

"I saw Pakistani submarines with my own eyes in the Panjshir River"
 

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On a serious note. Many people have taken the position that having a American army invade you, then have your soil trampled by 130,000 foreign soldiers from other side of the world who are entirely alien to the lands culture and peoples. Have them use your land as shooting range from gigantic mother of all bombs MOABs, to JDAM hits from F-16s, to fire practice from heli-gunships for 20 years is a good thing.

All I can say is I invite those who say this to also enjoy a invasion by USA and 20 years occupation.
 

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Ok,. apology

now anyways, I'm aware of Pakistan ability to negotiate with larger power like China.

now, don't you think Pakistan could possibly ended up a loser in this situation???
20 years of absorbing spillovers from Afghanistan and there's no guarantee your country having any spoils in the end at all??

What makes you think Pakistan could have it's say???

 

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This is peak autism. Congratulations to Americans. They achieved.. something.
Actually there are large areas in the north that are forest but the point of wasted or corruption stands. Most of that 2 trillion dollars they spent went on over charged contracts to US defence or logistic giants who then siphoned most of the money back to USA. The 20 year war had created a economic ecosystem in USA that literally fed from the war.

Then you had the gross corruption on Afghan side. They got paid for soldiers on the roll that did not exist or patrols or fighting that never took place. It was just a big mirage built on US tax dollars. Then you had talking heads going as experts who talked big but had almost zero knowledge. Nothing better exposed this entire edfice then how one week this lot imagined a ANA, ANAF, Ghani fighting it out but then all this vanished in 24 hours. There was not even a bark heard from ANA. It just dissolved.

The fact was the occuptation was deeply resented by vast MAJORITY of Afghans which is freakin natural. Which nation would like the idea of foreign army trampling on them for 20 years?

Few thousand Afghans became collaborators because of US dollars. This bubble then fed the Americans with what they wanted to hear because their living depended on continous flow of US dollars. When time came most ran away with truckloads of cash like Ashraf Ghani.

What a rotten enterprise this has been.
 

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One liners and sounbbytes only impress fools. If China can get the Gwadar Port to become a hub then even 99% is of port revenue is fine. What matters is the city grows around the port. The industry, the zones, the connectivity etc.
am sure you wont even click.

and Gwadar is not the point either.
 

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am sure you wont even click.

and Gwadar is not the point either.
Do you ever think before you post? Using Israeli media as referance on Pakistan or Gwadar [the correspondant is probably Indian] is like using Armenian media as referance for Turkish issues or [on the presemuption your a Indonesian] a Timorese referance when you lot were having problem with them.
 

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in the long term my prediction is this. there are 2 camps currently in the Taliban/IEA. One who doesn't want to spoil the victory and the others are hardliners who don't want to compromise, this camp are from the Haqqani/Al-Qaeda veterans or supporters, also worth mentioning are from the TIP, TPP and ETIM factions.

Taliban could only play the balancing games for so long until they have to choose:

1.Either dispose the hardliners to gain international legitimacy (could be limited to China and Pakistan)
2.Accept the demands of international Jihad from the hardliners.

point no.2 will be hard to achieve and this alone could cause the movement to splinter.

if the Taliban can't control the hardliners, there could be conflict which could escalate into war, and if the Taliban invited outside power to help them curb dissent, they will be viewed as traitor and foreign suck ups.

Taliban leaderships could very well be in a position where they will fight a mounting islamist insurgency in the countryside while they are increasingly cornered in urban centers. In short a reverse play of the now defunct government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. Might want to remind people that the people who ran the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan are once the insurgents who successfully ran an insurgency and routed the communists from power.

again in reference to my post #5121 , #5124, #5366

So yes, the possibility of a continued civil war in Afghanistan is a strong possibility. Especially among the hardliners in Taliban and the moderates. Especially disagreement over the Taliban envoy and officials remarks about Uyghurs, Shia and leaving Al-Qaeda.

I made this point earlier, in fact the war will likely continue.


and earlier I also pointed out why Islamist shouldn't be viewed with the same lens as nationalists in general.




That means while the war for the US+Coalition is largerly over, for Taliban...let's just say they're in for another one.
 

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That means while the war for the US+Coalition is largerly over, for Taliban...let's just say they're in for another one.
It will not be to the scale we have seen. This will be more on the lines that many countries face -l ike Turkey from PKK etc Taliban are well placed to handle ISIS-K etc.
 

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