Why don't you post the screenshots here?
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Look like KAI wingman concept, or even taranis UAV
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Why don't you post the screenshots here?
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Why don't you post the screenshots here?
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Can anyone elaborate on the picture? Is this an entirely new 5th G fighter or the KFX/IFX? Also the drones, what is the name of the project and what are the specs?
In any case, Indonesia and Turkey should collaborate on the stealth drones. both countries have similar ambitions.
coming from opposition party while korean election just counting finger, month from now.Indonesia fails to execute KF-21 cost-sharing agreement
Indonesia had agreed to pay 20 percent of the cost for the development of South Korea’s KF-21 Boram…www.donga.com
For 2022 ?There is no budget for KF21/IFX in 2021
InshaALLAH there isFor 2022 ?
Indonesia fails to execute KF-21 cost-sharing agreement
Indonesia had agreed to pay 20 percent of the cost for the development of South Korea’s KF-21 Boram…www.donga.com
That Ananda DT member keep misleading members and make Western moderators from Australia/New Zealan/Singapore who protect him in that forum happy. He still doesnt want to reveal in DT that Indonesian design engineers left Korea in March 2020. It is about 4-5 months after the completion of detail design. CDR is in September 2019.
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The year 2020 is already the start of manufacturing of the prototype and we have to admit that Korea doesnt need Indonesia in manufacturing the fighter jet since they have done manufacturing of F 16 since long time ago.
About Indonesia contribution, I am talking about design here as 116 Indonesian engineers working in Korea until detail design is completed are mostly design engineers.
If Indonesia is only needed to expand the sales, then why dont get UAE or Saudi Arabia to be the partner ??? They have much money to spend than Indonesia and will be willing to be junior partner. UAE for instants is happy to provide money for Russia Stealth fighter project. Even South Korea doesnt have any plan to get those nations when Indonesia started acting like naughty boys with unreasonable demands and dont pay the financial obligation.
South Korea only want to seek another capable partner, not just partner that can only provide money or more sales
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Taken from Jane Defense
17 Oktober 2019
Due to funding shortages, Indonesia - Korea's KFX development partner - has stalled on about KRW300 billion (USD253 million) in costs to support its involvement in the project, while local industry faces obstacles to develop some critical technologies for the platform.
A KAI official, who did not want to be identified, told Jane's at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) on 16 October that the KFX development project is still regarded as "open" in terms of technology partners. "This is still not finalised," he said in reference to KFX development alliances. "We could consider additional partners in the future."
KAI 'Open' to Additional Foreign Partners on KFX
17 Oktober 2019 The next-generation KFX fighter aircraft is expected to enter series production in the mid-2020s. To support its develo...defense-studies.blogspot.com
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Ananda you said that DI doesnt work on the program for almost 2 years ?
Here about the work which is done after March 2020 and it is done in DI facility in Bandung, as detail design work have been finished so not much design work compared to period of 2018 July-September 2019 as hundreds design engineers are needed to do detail design.
The work conducted in DI during 2020 is in majority about tandem seats configuration. I have already talked about basic design and technology development phase which is worked on since 2011 until Desember 2012 where it comes up with 2 designs where one of them C 103 design become basic design of KF 21/IFX that later being refined into C 109 design. There is one engineer from ITB that talks there, much better than yours who dont even have any connection to the engineering team, but just assuming.
(look the year 2012 on the picture) KAI and LM start joining the program in 2015
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Put it in DT Ananda if you want to be fair as I am being permanently banned there by saying Indonesia still can buy defense equipment from Russia despite CATSA if it is not big ticket sales and only supporting equipment which is later what I said is proven with 2 Russian weapons being bought for KCR 60. And dont forget that I get warned by Moderator there where I stated PT PAL can make at least 2 submarine in their facility simultaneously which is later proven to be true
Program KFX/IFX Dilanjutkan, Pemerintah Diminta Segera Memilih Desain
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Even there are also part manufacturing as well for prototype 1 and will be continued with components for prototype 2 and 6.
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About IP rights, you dont even know about that, no publication talk about IP right of the plane, Indonesia also bring lawyers during the development since 2011, not just engineers, so you dont know the detail about IP rights here
And once again you compare Indonesia contribution similar like licensing ???? License dont do design and contribute during development process, but just buy blue prints and learn to manufacture. Manufacturing jobs can be done by Vocational school graduates and diploma while in DI you will see many Bachelor degrees, Masters, and Phd.
This is why many Aerospace company who only do license, many cannot develop their own planes, it is because their capability in aircraft development that include design and testing are not sufficient enough to develop new plane by their own
Keep that sn***** attitude out of the forum, PT DI is not that much important for KFX project, the Korean had already proving that!!! What's more important is Indonesia name and presence toward this project, important for marketing ads, important for foreign first user and less than that to share the burden (though, they already had prepared the scenario of Indonesia leaving the project halfway if not for Prabowo to save the day)
You should know PT DI production line is very meagre and their efficiency is very low, not to mention their research and development is geared toward propeller aircraft production and their set of skill is geared toward those manufacturing. To push them into jet fighter manufacturing and design is very tall order and by any means the Investment needed is very large as they don't have the capability before (in particular designing , set up the rigs and tools, set up the manufacturing quality control, testing the jet fighter after assembly phase and such) ??
That's why i am always reminded them to be more carefull to do this joint project , even squeeze those Korean hard and re negotiated with them while leverage our point by talking or even taking deals with other manufacturer to bought already prepared such as Typhoon, Rafale, F 16 or F15, even better if Indonesia can bought license production of the said aircraft and assemble them in Indonesia to mastering the production methods and set up production line for Fighter Aircraft including the people who work on it.