Canada suspends exports of military drone technology to Turkey

[Cabatli_TR]

WESCAM MX-15D: 48.7 Kg
Aselsan CATS: ≤ 59 kg

Max ~10 kg weight differences!

 

[Combat-Master]

 

[Ryder]

WESCAM MX-15D: 48.7 Kg
Aselsan CATS: ≤ 59 kg

Max ~10 kg weight differences!

Any chance to make it lighter?? Would weight impact it??

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313425028302680066

Our Defense Industry continues on its way without paying attention to blocking and embargo decisions. Our CATS cameras that will be installed and put into use on our UAVs are going into mass production, thanks to those who contributed. We continue our efforts to develop a higher model at @aselsan.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Any chance to make it lighter?? Would weight impact it??

I think Aselsan worked on it and made it lighter than first prototypes. At first, Its weight was around 61-62kg but It is less than 59kg at present.

 

[Ryder]

I think Aselsan worked on it and made it lighter than first prototypes. At first, Its weight was around 61-62kg but It is less than 59kg at present.

Thanks so its possible. Aselsan guys know how to work their magic thats for sure.

 

[Gary]

All the best luck for Turkey, Indonesia overall has a NATO oriented military, if Turkey succeed in becoming a military tech powerhouse, Indonesia would have some alternative if someday getting sanctioned.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313424202062614530

Lol I love this tweet. Homegrown with a hint of Canada.

And the news don’t even bother to use TB2

 

[Yoyo]

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Now, all they have to do is match TB2 production rate, which at full tilt is 1 per week.

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Bro, is that camera in that pic from Aselsan or WESCAM?

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Bro, is that camera in that pic from Aselsan or WESCAM?

It looks like Aselsan CATS implemented on an ANKA UAV

 

[Yoyo]

It looks like Aselsan CATS implemented on an ANKA UAV

Are you sure bro? It looked like a TB-2 to my eye.

If we started using our own cameras, what's the point of the Canadian embargo?

When will the Western politicians learn that embargoing Turkey only ends up hurting their own companies?

We already have 7 Turkish companies on the Top 100 Defence Firms list. At this rate, by 2023 I'm expecting to see at least 10.

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Are you sure bro? It looked like a TB-2 to my eye.

If we started using our own cameras, what's the point of the Canadian embargo?

When will the Western politicians learn that embargoing Turkey only ends up hurting their own companies?

We already have 7 Turkish companies on the Top 100 Defence Firms list. At this rate, by 2023 I'm expecting to see at least 10.

fuck - wrong picture - I thought you were referring to a different post - didn't see that CM attached an image... lol...
of course its a TB2!!

that is an actual image of ASELSAN CATS
just by comparing the two sensors - it looks more like the Canadian WESCAM

another alternative to WESCAM:

DASS by ASELSAN - also lightweight <60kg

If we started using our own cameras, what's the point of the Canadian embargo?

When will the Western politicians learn that embargoing Turkey only ends up hurting their own companies?

these embargos are nothing more than understatements - they are showing flag... even if they know, that turkey is capable to cover their needs self-sufficient, they will still try to harm us...

 

[Timur]

they should have implemented aselsan flirs before the canadian shitbargo.. than they could have just cancle all done orders and dont pay them..

so these canadians are dropping turkey for someone with whom they have less benefit.. just because of christian brotherhood that should be a lesson to many people

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Anyone knows if those Turkish E/O are 100% Turkish and no components come from west zionist rats ?
Turkey should be like Russia about military defence , 100% National .

 

[Combat-Master]

Anyone knows if those Turkish E/O are 100% Turkish and no components come from west zionist rats ?
Turkey should be like Russia about military defence , 100% National .

No ofcourse everything within those E/O aren't domestically produced. Also seems you don't know, Russian thermal sights are imported from France. So, yeah.. Best not to be like Russia... especially in the electronics side.

 

[Saithan]

I think these embargoes whilst they're annoying is an opportunity to improve and use domestic technology.

What I fear might be an issue is the competitive prices of these products.

e.g. if Aselsan has developed an indigenous product it will need to be improved and to do that they'd either need to grow bigger or the team developing this product will have to establish a separate company and continue it's development.

I think the BioVent is an example of this. Aselsan helped or did develop it, but as we saw this year the company had not as I could tell any mass production facility for this, so Baykar, Aselsan and Vestel (I think) helped mass produce it.

Perhaps that is because they did not have any customer base for it in the first place.

So I imagine a scenario like this: Developed CATS or DASS being produced in a separate company called DASCAT' where TSK or Aselsan or Baykar are contractually obliged to purchase from DASCAT for 10 years under certain conditions such as R&D cooperation, improvement etc..

DASCAT will after being established in a fully functional company with PR, Marketin Managers, promote and seek costumers for the product world wide. And not sit on their asses and enjoy the contract with TSK while planning their retirement.

 

[Nilgiri]

I think these embargoes whilst they're annoying is an opportunity to improve and use domestic technology.

What I fear might be an issue is the competitive prices of these products.

e.g. if Aselsan has developed an indigenous product it will need to be improved and to do that they'd either need to grow bigger or the team developing this product will have to establish a separate company and continue it's development.

I think the BioVent is an example of this. Aselsan helped or did develop it, but as we saw this year the company had not as I could tell any mass production facility for this, so Baykar, Aselsan and Vestel (I think) helped mass produce it.

Perhaps that is because they did not have any customer base for it in the first place.

So I imagine a scenario like this: Developed CATS or DASS being produced in a separate company called DASCAT' where TSK or Aselsan or Baykar are contractually obliged to purchase from DASCAT for 10 years under certain conditions such as R&D cooperation, improvement etc..

DASCAT will after being established in a fully functional company with PR, Marketin Managers, promote and seek costumers for the product world wide. And not sit on their asses and enjoy the contract with TSK while planning their retirement.

Yup India similarly got boot up its rear from the sanctions following our nuclear tests in 98...that applied to a number of crucial projects that were just getting into stride.

Some stuff you just got to go the longer tougher route, its worth it in the end...and you persevere even when they remove sanction later because you learned the lesson and why take the chance.

Deploy your engineers and RnD teams and grow them well.

 

[Ravenman]

Maybe this is better for us in the future. Now we can produce our own parts, this will benefit our industry and our people and save us money.

Why should Turkish money go to those Canadian queers?

 

[Yoyo]

Someone needs to tell The West that...

Embargoes only make the Turks stronger!

 

[Ryder]

We can all agree on this never be dependant on another country for your defence.