TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

This is for the Turks who worship Israel.

Stop being Uncle Toms.

 

[Manomed]

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This is for the Turks who worship Israel.

Stop being Uncle Toms.

GÜMLEDİM lmao HAHAHAHAH

 

[Ryder]

GÜMLEDİM lmao HAHAHAHAH

They apologised by saying we got hacked

Yeah Right

 

[Lool]

Ok........
I wonder what is happening here

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1455784374436352002

 

[Anastasius]

Ok........
I wonder what is happening here

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1455784374436352002

This is nonsense. Turkish-US issues started surfacing during Obama's era and Biden has always voted hostile to Turkish interests. Trump was the one who actually tried to remedy US issues with Turkey but the gullible US public voted him out and now we're stuck with these a-holes, who are driving us headlong into another Great Depression faster than ever.

 

[Barry]

YPG would probably have had an air-force by now if he was president for the last 7 years lmao.

 

[Nilgiri]

Relations with the west were already destroyed due to Turkey's growing influence in the region, Turkey's growing military strength and nationalisation, as well as the West's support to the YPG! Regardless of whether Erdo was a leader or not; if Turkey had good relations with the West, it would have been at the expense of many things primarily from the Turkish side! Pls wake up from this delusion for Gods sake
The West always treated Turkey as its bitch; when the turks didnt like it, the West started throwing a tantrum

I will repeat the same words Erdo said 3 months ago: "The global power is shifting away from the West, If Turkey cant adapt to the new emerging world order, then Turkey may not exist in the future

And about the S400s, the idea that relations were destroyed because of it is complete BS
Do you notice the difference between these 2 news threads?

US lawmakers call for Biden to not sell F-16 fighters to Turkey

Democratic and Republican U.S. lawmakers urged President Joe Biden’s administration not to sell F-16 fighter jets to Turkey and said they were confident...

www.dailysabah.com

U.S. senators urge Biden to avoid India sanctions over Russian deal

Two U.S. senators have urged President Joe Biden to waive sanctions against India over its purchase of Russia's S-400 air defense system, saying such a punitive measure would endanger growing cooperation.

www.reuters.com

RE India it is more complicated, but India isn't part of NATO or F35 profram and has maintained ties with Russia with defence over a long time, buying Russian defence products, this relationship with Russia is to counter balance China. So US does not prioritize sanctions against them.

With all due respect, that is a LAME excuse tbh
Turkey's importance to US is greater than India tbh
Turkey is the only geographical barrier against Russia rn and one of the main factors that curb Iran's influence. If Turkey is gone, Russia will conquer the Middle East; and surely, in terms of resources, Middle East surpasses China's importance by leaps and bounds! I mean Russia is currently trapped and yet they are destroying American and Western influence in Libya, Syria, Mali, and Central Africa
And i wont get started on Iran

As for India, while it is good to have them as allies, they arent the only ones anti-China
You have Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Phillipines, and Malaysia all of whom are more pro-West and some are even more tchnologically advanced than India


And I will say it again, Turkey didnt buy S400 just for fun. TSK did start a tender with the Chinese winning the bid, yet due to US getting pissed, Erdo scrapped the deal amd gave THE WEST 2 more years to give a better offer which was returned with a middle finger from the West! And after negotiations, US stated they would supply patriots under the conditions that they would be the one controlling it amd will only cover certain key sectors and not all of Turkey! I mean like WTF! Which respectable nation would accept such ridiculous claims!? Above all of that, no rule in NATO prohibits buying Russian equipments for Gods sake!

The CAATSA sanctions implemented on Turkey are way too political and way too deeper than retarded S400s deal and argument
The US is trying to impose political pressure on Erdogan to comply with the Western decision-making

And one final thing, if China really felt threatened by Russian weapons in India's hands, they would have asked Russia to halt such deals amd dont get me wrong, PUTIN will never risk jeopardising Russia-China's relationship over one military deal with india

It doesn't matter. According to CAATSA, there is no difference between a NATO ally or another country. The US has to sanction India otherwise this will put the US in a clown situation.

BTW we don't need to hit those Su-35s, a shady organization can do that.

CAATSA is a law, and those US senators can demand (result of good lobbying) whatever they demand. If the US exempt the Indians from the sanctions, thats when you get furious and rightfully so, but not because some senators demand something. Thats something thats ordinary and has no implications.

I invite TR members to read through this thread in full and I invite them to interact further on this topic there if its interests them:

Analysis - U.S. Senators introduce amendment supporting CAATSA sanctions waiver for India

The move comes head of India’s delivery of the S-400 Triumf missile defence system from Moscow Three Republican Senators have introduced an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act FY2022 – an annual defence budget bill – to make it harder for the executive branch of the U.S...

defencehub.live

 

[Saithan]

Turkey, US to form working group over PKK, FETÖ, S-400s: FM - Türkiye News

Turkey and the United States will form a working group to tackle issues such as the Russian-made S-400 air defense systems and the U.S. support to the YPG and FETÖ, Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has said, noting that the idea of a joint group was floated by the Biden administration.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

IMO this working group is a waste of time, it has ended up buying time for US to keep YPG/PKK safe.

 

[TheInsider]

Turkey, US to form working group over PKK, FETÖ, S-400s: FM - Türkiye News

Turkey and the United States will form a working group to tackle issues such as the Russian-made S-400 air defense systems and the U.S. support to the YPG and FETÖ, Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has said, noting that the idea of a joint group was floated by the Biden administration.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

IMO this working group is a waste of time, it has ended up buying time for US to keep YPG/PKK safe.

It is the US way of stalling things until elections to cook up more Byzantine intrigues.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Another political failure from AK party. That's why 10 years can pass and nothing significant is achieved in Syria.

 

[Sinan]

No one in Europe would argue that the leaders of al-Qaeda were unfairly judged. Turkey will not be mindful of the EU, neither for Selahattin Demirtaş nor for Osman Kavala. This is not an ordinary citizen's case. This is a matter of national security.

Guys, Bogeyman is a government propaganda troll.

Osman Kavala is a businessman, who had ties with NGOs. Erdogan made an example of him to silence all NGOs in Turkey.

He is basically saying "doesn't matter who you are if you are talking against me, i will put you into jail and nobody can get you out".
Same thing done with a political party leader. He is trying to scare his political opponents.
Keeping them in jail illegally, in jail despite of the constitution. Kavala is in jail for 4 years with just charges. He is not convicted or anything like that.

That's not his only tactic (to jail people) also there is mob violence against politicians and journalists, numerous journalists and politicians heavily assaulted by government tied. mob.

Erdogan nears his end and he becomes even more violent because he knows what awaits his entire family at the end.

 

[Turko]

Fault of Osman Kavala is having Turkish citizenship. If he were US citizen, he would have been released 10 years ago.

 

[Ryder]

Greece banned Halal and Kosher.

Gulf Arabs and Israelis werent the Greeks your best friends

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456515701217300527

Any of the Turks who worship Israel explain this?

When Jews themselves accuse us of "genocide"

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456515701217300527

Any of the Turks who worship Israel explain this?

When Jews themselves accuse us of "genocide"

Mate the whole world will accuse you of genocide, PERIOD!
Hell man, they may even accuse the Turks of commiting genocide against the Pharoahs themselves
This is the fate of those who are of emperial descendants, accept it! Especially more so, if the current rulers of the world, were previously getting rap*d by your Ottomans ancestors!
They will always feel pressured, scared, amd wary of any new uprising from the Turks. Especially since the turks, throughout history, created several empires and not just the Ottoman dynasty.
Just like how Christianity ruled the world, during the byzantine empire, then the Ottomans crushed it and Islam dominated for 800 years, and then Christianity rose again
They are scared of a new Muslim uprising especially when the Muslims have been getting screwed for more than a hundred years. If the muslims rose, the punishment to be imposed on Western powers will be severe! This is Karma. What goes around, comes around

That is why they dont like Turkey rising! This is why they dont want to see a muslim nation with one of the most long-lived empires in modern history rising again. They will use everything at their disposal to bring you down. Turkey will soon enter the nuclear field as well. By then, many leverages the West had over Turkey will be gone.
Really waiting for 2023 to see which path Turkey takes

It seems many didnt seem to realise the significant of Arms sale to Poland, as an example! It isnt only about money but also a sign that the global order is shifting and the West may become dependent on Turkey; which is normally the first sign of getting screwed in the future

Iam not bitching or criticising any1 though
And iam not saying to go back to imperial ruling or whatever
I just want you to know that as the last major empire, you guys will get screwed until you rise again. Whether that is tomorrow, after a year, a decade, or a millenia

 

[what]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1458185259825209348

Entire tweet chain is relevant. Refugees are travelling through Istanbul to Belarus and cross the border to Poland, or at least try to. This is something that is straining the ties with Poland, which seemed to be decent after the TB2 export deal.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1458185259825209348

Entire tweet chain is relevant. Refugees are travelling through Istanbul to Belarus and cross the border to Poland, or at least try to. This is something that is straining the ties with Poland, which seemed to be decent after the TB2 export deal.

If Europe doesn't want refugees they should support a Turkish safe zone in Syria. It's as simple as that.

 

[GoatsMilk]

If Europe doesn't want refugees they should support a Turkish safe zone in Syria. It's as simple as that.

Yep, instead what did the Americans do they allowed the Russians to deploy fighter jets right along our northern border. However Poland isnt the country to incite, send them towards Greece.

Also is there any evidence of this? I dont see why Turkey would help Russia who is threatening Turkey today over north syria?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Whats fascinating the only nation fighting Russia is Turkey, yet all the western media keeps pushing the narrative that Turkey is siding with Russia. No mention of americans working with them against Turkey in Syria, no mention of France working with them in Libya, no mention of EU angry at Ukraine using Turkish TB2's against Russian forces.

Meanwhile its Turkey whose working with Russia, absolute nonsense.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Poland is generally anti-EU and that sentiment is only growing. Meanwhile Poland is happy to do business with Turkey. Could all of this be an EU plan against Poland and Turkish relations? Basically to harm Turkish-Polish relations and to pull Poland back towards the EU?

Everything seems to coincidental. Why would Turkey want to antagonise Poland of all countries when she could send the refugees towards Greece?

Its worth pointing out the "outrage" a few thousand refugees creates a massive stir, meanwhile Turkey not only has 5 million but its expect to take millions more without a word being said about it.