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[Agha Sher]

I don't fully understand what you try say will be the problem.

However, like you say they will most likely place a Sungur (around 10kg) on each wing for initial weight balance but similar unbalance problems already occurs when they use just one MAM-L (22kg) so they must have 2 Sungur on one wing already covered. Keep in mind that Sungur (=Stinger) is man-portable so they are very light.

Concerning sensor pack, they might add a small AESA radar similar to what the Polish do to their TB2 for some applications but I think they will primarily use IIR/optical cameras (tailbom or FLIR) for the TB2/Sungur combo due to the very limited range of Sungur.

When fired from TB2 the range would increase significantly, no? I am thinking that the release altitude, release speed etc. will greatly extend the range.

 

[Zafer]

I don't fully understand what you try say will be the problem.

However, like you say they will most likely place a Sungur (around 10kg) on each wing for initial weight balance but similar unbalance problems already occurs when they use just one MAM-L (22kg) so they must have 2 Sungur on one wing already covered. Keep in mind that Sungur (=Stinger) is man-portable so they are very light.

Concerning sensor pack, they might add a small AESA radar similar to what the Polish do to their TB2 for some applications but I think they will primarily use IIR/optical cameras (tailbom or FLIR) for the TB2/Sungur combo due to the very limited range of Sungur.

Ok, seems like I have mixed the 100kg class KUZGUN family munitions with the lighter Sungur.
If it were KUZGUN it would be too heavy to hang two of them on one wing of the TB2.

 

[kimov]

When fired from TB2 the range would increase significantly, no? I am thinking that the release altitude, release speed etc. will greatly extend the range.

It will ofc increase but not by any significant amount as it is simply a design choice.

Keep in mind that the target will most likely be an unarmed drone like WL2 at the "same" altitude. So some 4-8km or maybe 10km range. The whole purpose of Sungur is to be cheap, small and short range. For bigger drones, we have bigger missiles up to some 100km range though the actual effective range will be around some 50km against evasive targets.

 

[TheInsider]

Air launched Sungur will have ~20km range.

 

[Combat-Master]

Air launched Sungur will have ~20km range.

I won't accept anything less than 25km!

 

[what]

Pretty much confirmed at this point that Ethiopia received TB2s:

EXCLUSIVE U.S. concerned over Turkey's drone sales to conflict-hit Ethiopia

U.S. authorities have taken issue with Turkey over its sales of armed drones to Ethiopia, where two sources familiar with the matter said there was mounting evidence the government had used the weapons against rebel fighters.

www.reuters.com

 

[Combat-Master]

Chief of the Joint Staff AF Bosnia and Herzegovina Lieutenant General Senad Mašović paid a visit to Özdemir Bayraktar National UAV R&D and Production Campus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474033461564428293

 

[Oublious]

Chief of the Joint Staff AF Bosnia and Herzegovina Lieutenant General Senad Mašović paid a visit to Özdemir Bayraktar National UAV R&D and Production Campus.
View attachment 37597

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474033461564428293

another customer....

Green the map....

 

[Oublious]

Pretty much confirmed at this point that Ethiopia received TB2s:

EXCLUSIVE U.S. concerned over Turkey's drone sales to conflict-hit Ethiopia

U.S. authorities have taken issue with Turkey over its sales of armed drones to Ethiopia, where two sources familiar with the matter said there was mounting evidence the government had used the weapons against rebel fighters.

www.reuters.com

Thats how the western power do ther job, conflict bleed it to dead. Mean while sanctions, from embargo of weapons to economics! 30 years later the country is still in conflict. Two sides fighting each other, after that they decide wich side they will be support! Like Sudan, genocide stories, in the end the country is split in 2 or 3. Somalia the same, we should help them.

 

[Combat-Master]

Anka and Simsek duo

 

[Zafer]

another customer....

Green the map....

Map is green.

 

[Anastasius]

Pretty much confirmed at this point that Ethiopia received TB2s:

EXCLUSIVE U.S. concerned over Turkey's drone sales to conflict-hit Ethiopia

U.S. authorities have taken issue with Turkey over its sales of armed drones to Ethiopia, where two sources familiar with the matter said there was mounting evidence the government had used the weapons against rebel fighters.

www.reuters.com

That's because the drones helped Ethiopia's government turn the tide against Tigrayans and unlike Iran and China, who won't listen to the US and don't have to, Turkey is part of NATO and therefore the US establishment feels justified in bitching at you guys.

As for why, it's because the US is desperately trying to gain ground against Chinese influence in Africa but instead of actual helpful measures like economic and industrial support to build up goodwill, we went with retarded measures out of the CIA's playbook like backing regime changes.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Please stay on topic.

posts moved to

Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

Yep, instead what did the Americans do they allowed the Russians to deploy fighter jets right along our northern border. However Poland isnt the country to incite, send them towards Greece. Also is there any evidence of this? I dont see why Turkey would help Russia who is threatening Turkey...

defencehub.live

 

[Turko]

I won't accept anything less than 25km!

What makes additional 5km range vital?
Or it was a joke?

 

[Combat-Master]

What makes additional 5km range vital?
Or it was a joke?

Well of course to match performance SAGE Bozdoğan which is stated to have a 25km max effective range.

Updated map;
Bosnia included as interested country
Cat is out of the bag on Ethiopia as another export country

 

[Hexciter]

Russians seems to be anxious about the Bayraktar TB-2 issue in the Ukrainian front.

 

[kimov]

Well of course to match performance SAGE Bozdoğan which is stated to have a 25km max effective range.

Updated map;
Bosnia included as interested country
Cat is out of the bag on Ethiopia as another export country
View attachment 37640

It seem like you need to update the map again. Iraq is red.

 

[Agha Sher]

It seem like you need to update the map again. Iraq is red.

Do you have a credible source. Tbh the source posted in the other thread doesn't seem to be too credible.

 

[kimov]

Do you have a credible source. Tbh the source posted in the other thread doesn't seem to be too credible.

I don't have any other source but isn't the source Iraqi defence minister?
Such a big announcement by the minister should be relatively easy to find it on twitter if it is legit. i'll check but I don't know arabic.

Edit: nothing on twitter so maybe not true then.

 

[Agha Sher]

I don't have any other source but isn't the source Iraqi defence minister?
Such a big announcement by the minister should be relatively easy to find it on twitter if it is legit. i'll check but I don't know arabic.

The defence minister was speaking above himself a month or two ago. Came out with random numbers. Defence ministers in these kind of countries like to brag.