Brave Janissary
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Submarines are already have biggest outdated systems. With new smaller and technological subsystem gives a more technical advance, more wide and good looking area for submariners.
Only logical option until TAI is able to do or secures a ToT, is Seahawk (considering TAI and others would provide upgrade solutions as time passes, for the older helicopters) and we should lobby for those as much as we are lobbying for the F-16s and the upgrade kits.Still no news about ASW Helicopters for Anadolu nor any Helicopters for the four Istif-Class frigates. Unless they want to use the outdated AB-212.
MH-60R is a no go and will be vetoed, what are the alternatives?
I think we could aquire some AgustaWestland AW159 HMA2 Wildcat without any problems.Only logical option until TAI is able to do or secures a ToT, is Seahawk (considering TAI and others would provide upgrade solutions as time passes, for the older helicopters) and we should lobby for those as much as we are lobbying for the F-16s and the upgrade kits.
Then other 'possible' options for I-Class would be;
NFH-90
Korean Airspace Industries Surion variants
For Anadolu;
AW101
However both has major European (France, Germany, Italy) input and not likely to be delivered.
6 months apart, means the winner of the bid could be a single shipyard (or favored in such way).Mr. Ismail Demir:
"The bids for the 6th, 7th and 8th MİLGEM frigates to be produced have been received. The evaluation process continues. It is on the agenda that 3 ships will be launched and commissioned in the same year, within 18 months."
I was rather offering options in ~10 tons MTOW.I think we could aquire some AgustaWestland AW159 HMA2 Wildcat without any problems.
Only logical option until TAI is able to do or secures a ToT, is Seahawk (considering TAI and others would provide upgrade solutions as time passes, for the older helicopters) and we should lobby for those as much as we are lobbying for the F-16s and the upgrade kits.
Then other 'possible' options for I-Class would be;
NFH-90
Korean Airspace Industries Surion variants
For Anadolu;
AW101
However both has major European (France, Germany, Italy) input and not likely to be delivered.
MH-60 is the upgraded Seahawks, old Seahawks are S-70B.Has the Seahawk been updated in any form? I'm gonna guess it will pale in comparison to the MH-60R. But what other choice do we have. T-925 is years away and a ASW version even longer.
Smart-S can also detect threats and pass that on the tracking radar of the Gökdeniz.View attachment 43954
How could a CIWS intercept Anti-ship missiles if there is no radar coverage?
IMHO There should be 2 additional compact AESA radar plates in order to CIWS work properly. Remember it is CIWS not SHORAD.
At least Phalanx could be replaced in front and Gökdeniz at rear. This position would give more situational awareness.
@Anmdt
How so?TAI is going to need some input for the navalization.
AH-1Ws are navalized from birth, and they have got 2 pals which doesn't require folding. I would at least expect those helis to undergo an upgrade with some Turkish sensors and EW protection but i doubt if Navy wants to settle with them for a long term.How so?
So TAI didn't navalize the AH-1Ws?
I know it's not that simple but I thought it's mainly the radar, its housing, some electronic instruments like different mission computer etc. and anti-corrosion paint.
FULLY AGREE! we are surrounded by 3 seas but we only have 1 navy. thats bad.The German Empire, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman State lost WO I because they had no navy.
We must build a large Navy, so big that it should be partioned in 3 parts;
- The Turkish Black Sea Fleet
- The Turkish Aegean Fleet
- The Turkish Mediterranean Fleet