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Only electric. Togg will never produce gasoline/diesel vehicles. Behind the Togg initiative are giant investors who have been in the automotive business for decades. There are 2 main motivations for the creation of the Togg brand: the first is to create a pure-bred electric vehicle brand, and the second is to enable Turkiye to take part in this competition with its own brand while the world is undergoing this transformation.Btw, does anyone know whether Togg is planniing to produce diesel cars or will they go fully electric?
You would buy it for economic reasons. I have seen a lot of total cost of ownership calculations for Tesla where it turns out that the initial premium you pay for the car itself is offset by the profit you make on electricity vs oil. And that was before the spike of oil prices. If TOGG is actually priced at a similar point as non-electric cars, it's a no-brainer as there is no initial premium and it's all profit after buying the car. Not to mention all the financial credit advantages that are going to be rolled out.Well TOGG is not a bad project but if the price will be same with the other cars in the same segment, why bother to buy one? Most of the population can not afford it anyway.
It will be an incredibly tough job to speed the line up. There are just too many processes and the line can only go as fast as its slowest piece. You speed up, some part of the line will burst, you investigate, solve, validate and then increase the speed a bit more and repeat. Reiterate this hundreds of time before you reach your production target. It's a major undertaking and needs awful amount of engineering hours. Too many things that can go wrong, and will go wrong. You have to solve them in a timely manner or else you'll be burning millions every hour.The video you've been waiting for <>
The EV infrastructure in Turkey is nowhere near good enough to consider an electric car as main car since long distances will be impossible without sufficient amount of charging stations.You would buy it for economic reasons. I have seen a lot of total cost of ownership calculations for Tesla where it turns out that the initial premium you pay for the car itself is offset by the profit you make on electricity vs oil. And that was before the spike of oil prices. If TOGG is actually priced at a similar point as non-electric cars, it's a no-brainer as there is no initial premium and it's all profit after buying the car. Not to mention all the financial credit advantages that are going to be rolled out.
I hope we can expand the domestic electric vehicle portfolio quickly. There should be an as-cheap-as-possible electric car (maybe with only one or two seats) as well as commercial transportation vehicles, tractors, lorries, and TIRs and so on. The increased transportation cost due to oil is what's primarily causing the inflation in many essential goods like food. Replacing oil with domestically manufactured renewable electricity is one of the best things you can do for inflation and the economy as a whole.
A total of 5 different classes of vehicles will be produced until 2030: C Segment SUV, C Segment Sedan, C Segment Hatchback, MPV and B Segment SUV. Right now we are only evaluating the first model, even its pilot production. The Togg initiative was initially going to start production with a model with a price range accessible to everyone, but probably after market research, it was decided to start with the C segment.It will be an incredibly tough job to speed the line up. There are just too many processes and the line can only go as fast as its slowest piece. You speed up, some part of the line will burst, you investigate, solve, validate and then increase the speed a bit more and repeat. Reiterate this hundreds of time before you reach your production target. It's a major undertaking and needs awful amount of engineering hours. Too many things that can go wrong, and will go wrong. You have to solve them in a timely manner or else you'll be burning millions every hour.
The essence of the post is TOGG needs more engineers. The hard part begins now. Car manufacturing is probably the most complex engineering problem to have on the planet.
"It's relatively easy to make a prototype but extremely difficult to mass manufacture a vehicle reliably at scale. Even for rocket science, it's probably a factor of 10 harder to design a manufacturing system for a rocket than to design the rocket. For cars it's maybe 100 times harder to design the manufacturing system than the car itself."
Elon Musk
I can hear them say "What can a few workers make, this factory is joke".A video that will upset many trolls on social media who have been tirelessly saying that the factory does not exist and that there is no production since days:
So these cats will definitely say "This liver is dirty".What can a few workers make, this factory is "joke".
I'm sure South Koreans for Hyundai and Japanese for Toyota experienced these concerns about a newly established brand years ago. But despite all kinds of negativity, they patiently supported their brands and brought them to these days.The EV infrastructure in Turkey is nowhere near good enough to consider an electric car as main car since long distances will be impossible without sufficient amount of charging stations.
Apart from that was there any mentioning of service stations for those cars? I as an owner would want to have a service station close to my place in case something breaks which certainly will be the case for the early adopters.
Even tesla after a decade of experience has quality issues so havbing a service station and capable mechanics close by is a must for most people to consider it.
54 companies have been licensed to build charging stations so far to be precise and probably counting too.Togg's own brand charging stations are currently being installed on the determined intercity main arteries.
There are companies that have applied for a license for many domestic charging stations, such as Vestel. So I don't think there will be any problem with charging.
As for the service, I think that this issue is currently being studied and the necessary infrastructure is about to be created.
Anyway, the only difference in an electric vehicle is the battery and engine part, namely the electrical work. Body, tires, front layout are the same.
For this reason, even if certain places such as local auto services, automobile repair shops are agreed and training is given to these places, this issue is resolved. I don't think you need a big investment.
Hyundai started with cheap cars which it citizens can afford, TOGG didn't go in this direction.I'm sure South Koreans for Hyundai and Japanese for Toyota experienced these concerns about a newly established brand years ago. But despite all kinds of negativity, they patiently supported their brands and brought them to these days.
...and it's the right decision.Hyundai started with cheap cars which it citizens can afford, TOGG didn't go in this direction.
It may sound counter-intuitive but producing cheaper cars are much harder than producing premium cars. TOGG is following Tesla's path in this regard. After having sufficient experience in manufacturing, having the capital, mature supply chain, perfected quality control, and hundreds(if not thousands) of engineers who are experts in designing and maintaining a highly-automated manufacturing system, only then you could venture that path and take advantage of the economies of scale. If you do it before you're ready you'd be burning hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing....and it's the right decision.
Hyundai started with cheap cars which it citizens can afford, TOGG didn't go in this direction.
Togg also started production from the SUV class, which is the best-selling class. This is a different method to sell a lot of automobiles.Hyundai started with cheap cars which it citizens can afford, TOGG didn't go in this direction.
I am pretty sure the Japanese and Koreans already had a sufficient Petrol infrastructure before establishing their brands.I'm sure South Koreans for Hyundai and Japanese for Toyota experienced these concerns about a newly established brand years ago. But despite all kinds of negativity, they patiently supported their brands and brought them to these days.