Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Umigami]

Brahmos wouldnt trigger caatsa tho?

I don't think US would risk their good relation with India, one of Quad member.

Let's ask @Nilgiri

 

[chibiyabi]

integration brahmos to western system needs more money that we don't have. trully unneccesary

 

[Nilgiri]

Brahmos wouldnt trigger caatsa tho?

I don't think US would risk their good relation with India, one of Quad member.

Let's ask @Nilgiri

CAATSA didn't get triggered when the Brahmos deal was finalised with the Philippines early this year.

So I doubt it will be here.

 

[rai456]

integration brahmos to western system needs more money that we don't have. trully unneccesary

India integrates both Brahmos and western systems on their ships so I don't think it would be that much of an issue. The biggest drawback of the Brhamos is its size and weight. The integration of anti-ship missile in general isn't usually that hard.

 

[Afif]

Yeah, as Indonesian Navy need at least 16 Frigates ( with 2 Type 31+ 6 FREMM is already signed)

why not bring more FREMMs? those are awesome!

 

[Lordimperator]

why not bring more FREMMs? those are awesome!

Money, faster productionss shipyards from different nations, in Indonesia there is no word known as : commonality.

 

[Madokafc]

India integrates both Brahmos and western systems on their ships so I don't think it would be that much of an issue. The biggest drawback of the Brhamos is its size and weight. The integration of anti-ship missile in general isn't usually that hard.

As long as they don't act as stand alone system like the previous Yakhont missiles

 

[Madokafc]

Money, faster productionss shipyards from different nations, in Indonesia there is no word known as : commonality.

I don't think it is all about money as the other contender for more Frigate projects is mogami class from MHI and F142 design from dearsan, they are full sized 140 meter class Frigates design....

 

[Afif]

in Indonesia there is no word known as : commonality.

Is this because of geopolitical consideration?

Even though, the conventional wisdom is not to put all your eggs in one basket but i think,
if there is very low probability of geopolitical strain with the nation in the future, from whom procurement is taking place, it not all bad to put your eggs in one basket,
Because, as we all know, in modern day warfare how crucial integrated network centric architecture is, as it allows a navy to operate and fight as one big entity.

anyway, this is just my personal opinion.

 

[Lordimperator]

I don't think it is all about money as the other contender for more Frigate projects is mogami class from MHI and F142 design from dearsan, they are full sized 140 meter class Frigates design....

both Dearsan and MHI offer are cheaper than Fincantieri no? did they offer us the aaw/ enlarged Mogami? JMSDF batch i Mogami has 133m length

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601965670492676097

Contender for marine coastal missile system?

 

[Madokafc]

Battle of Java Sea, change the Japanese imperial navy with the PLA Navy and Dutch East Indies with Indonesia and Great Britain South East Asia squadron with Singapore Navy and Royal Australia Navy. Hope Indonesia can learn a lot from the battle and rectified the shortcoming as soon as possible, to have strength on your own is always the best way.

Btw Dutch East Indies, clearly has serious strategic mistake even as the Imperial Japan Navy started invaded China in 1936, they have done nothing serious to build up their Naval and air force capability, even when the Japanese annexed Korea, instigating Marcopolo bridge incident the Dutch still complacent, it just after the brokeout of Japan US diplomacy in 1939 the Dutch started to paying attention to the Japanese threat, but it was too late. So from the beginning the Dutch is destined to lose their crown Jewel of Indonesia. The Dutch East Indies by the time is economy Giant had good economy and large population number, if they put more resource into defense, intelligent and as early possible cooperated with Great Britain and US they would not be as easily to be conquered by the Japanese like then.

 

[this is crunch]

does the AR140 first cutting steel ceremony really ever happened? there is not even single defense blog and news talking about it

 

[Lordimperator]

does the AR140 first cutting steel ceremony really ever happened? there is not even single defense blog and news talking about it

Maybe for private only without any mass media respondent, even there is no publication from PAL itself

 

[this is crunch]

Maybe for private only without any mass media respondent, even there is no publication from PAL itself

PT.PAL go sneaky sneaky huh
suspicious...

 

[kanalkanan]

Maybe for private only without any mass media respondent, even there is no publication from PAL itself

Just unusual thing. We know our indhan always show their achievement with "karya anak bangsa" slogan.

 

[Gary]

What now ahhh...

AKHIRNYA !! Korvet Pohang Memperkuat TNI Angkatan Laut

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[Madokafc]

It is just a waste of resource including maintenance fund, operational fund and manpower (including sailor), why not invest more into newly build OPV and develop them into more potent platform

Or better give them away to coast guard

 

[Umigami]

What now ahhh...

AKHIRNYA !! Korvet Pohang Memperkuat TNI Angkatan Laut

Sobat Militer,Setelah sempat PSPnya di TOLAK, akhirnya tiga korvet kelas Pohang memperkuat TNI Angkatan Korvet bekas dari Korea Selatan ini mulai berdinas an...

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It is just a waste of resource including maintenance fund, operational fund and manpower (including sailor), why not invest more into newly build OPV and develop them into more potent platform

Or better give them away to coast guard

I don't think it's about the vessels themselves but something "behind" it.

 

[Lordimperator]

What now ahhh...

AKHIRNYA !! Korvet Pohang Memperkuat TNI Angkatan Laut

Sobat Militer,Setelah sempat PSPnya di TOLAK, akhirnya tiga korvet kelas Pohang memperkuat TNI Angkatan Korvet bekas dari Korea Selatan ini mulai berdinas an...

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It is just a waste of resource including maintenance fund, operational fund and manpower (including sailor), why not invest more into newly build OPV and develop them into more potent platform

Or better give them away to coast guard

I don't think it's about the vessels themselves but something "behind" it.

KFX cost penalty? Nagapasa batch ii?