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post deleted but still highlighted by another user? Are mods on damage control again like that post i made to Gary before with no insults or anything derogatory (azov nazi wannabes)? Zelensky's soldiers are doing a fine job, perhaps they can send the mobilization letters to users here.


Blackjack mate, it's nice when you bring your words and opinions about the topic, it's a forum so the debate and expression of ideas is the main issue here. If you post docens of random twitter/telegram/reddit stuff without context, locations, dates or without the intention of supporting a recent idea you'll make this to look like a hooligan football match, and it goes against the meaning of the forum and difficulties the reading.

I hope you understand it, TBH even when you laugh about Oryx because it's "western propaganda" and you post Russian MoD official info as the real deal, it's good to give you an answer, and for sure you have the right to express yourself.

Then I can reply: this guy would be much better than Shoygu:


Everybody's fucked, that war will soon come to Yalta.
 
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Blackjack mate, it's nice when you bring your words and opinions about the topic, it's a forum so the debate and expression of ideas is the main issue here. If you post docens of random twitter/telegram/reddit stuff without context, locations, dates or without the intention of supporting a recent idea you'll make this to look like a hooligan football match, and it goes against the meaning of the forum and difficulties the reading.

I hope you understand it, TBH even when you laugh about Oryx because it's "western propaganda" and you post Russian MoD official info as the real deal, it's good to give you an answer, and for sure you have the right to express yourself.

Then I can reply: this guy would be much better than Shoygu:


From someone whose generally willing to see the reality no matter how good or bad, i would have to say that Russia is 99% in the wrong concerning Ukraine. The 1% argument they have is that america is looking to expand her global influence at the expense of Russia, however Russia has always tried to do the same, actually long before America even existed. So even that 1% is open to debate.

From a Ukrainians perspective and ultimately their perspective is the one that matters because they are being attacked and invaded Russia is 100% in the wrong and the wests support collectively is right and good irrespective of whatever Americans ultimate aims and ambitions are.
 

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Heading into Ramstein tomorrow, here is a comprehensive list of all the Western equipment promised to / delivered to Ukraine thus far in 2023 (January). Note that I did not include equipment that was bought months ago, and has previously been noted (such as Polish Krabs and German Panzerhaubitze 2000s) without a promised delivery date. Obviously, this list will grow substantially coming out of Ramstein, but here is what we know so far, broken down by the country.

United States
1x MIM-104 Patriot air defense battery (with ammunition)
8x Avenger air defense systems (with ammunition)
109x Bradley M2 IFVs (540,000x rounds of 25mm ammunition, 1090x TOW anti-tank missiles).
90x Stryker APCs (with 20 mine rollers)
100x M113 APCs
18x M109A6, 155mm self propelled howitzers
89x M119, 155mm towed howitzers
438x HMMVs (with TOW, .50 caliber and grenade launcher capabilities)
55x Cougar MRAPS
30x Ammunition support vehicles
22x Tactical vehicles
90,000x 155mm artillery rounds
1200x 155mm RAAM artillery rounds
1100x 155mm Excalibur GPS guided artillery rounds
190,000x 105mm artillery rounds
21,800x 120mm mortar rounds
4000x Zuni rockets
4000x anti-armor rockets (M72 LAW and AT4)
3,000,000x rounds of small arms ammunition
Unspecified number of RIM-7 air defense missiles
Unspecified number of GMRLS (2 batches)
Unspecified numbers of HARMS (1 batch)
Unspecified numbers of machine guns, grenade launchers, sniper rifles and small arms (1 batch)
Unspecified number of night vision devices and optics (2 batches)
Unspecified number of claymore anti-personnel munitions and obstacle clearing equipment (2 batches)
Unspecified spare parts and field equipment (2 batches)

Germany
1x MIM-104 Patriot air defense battery (with ammunition)
40x Marder IFVs
2x TRML-4D Radar system
12x Mine clearance systems
5x Pionierpanzer 2A1 Dachs armoured engineering vehicles

Britain
14x Challenger 2 MBTs
30x AS-90, 155mm self propelled howitzers
600x Brimstone Missiles
Unspecified number of AMRAAM air defense missiles
Unspecified number ("dozens") of drones
Unspecified number ("hundreds") of armored mobility vehicles and APCs

France
Unspecified number of AMX-10 RC AFVs

Sweden
12x Archer, 155mm self propelled howitzers
50x CV90 IFVs
Unspecified number of NLAW anti-armor weapons
Unspecified number of AT4 anti-armor weapons

Turkey
150x (approximately) BMC Kirpi APCs

Canada
1x NASAMS Air Defense System
200x Roshel Senator high mobility APCs

Czech Republic (funded by USA, Netherlands and Morocco)
150x (approximately) T-72 MBTs

Netherlands
1x MIM-104 Patriot air defense battery (with ammunition)

Estonia
Unspecified number of FH-70, 155mm towed howitzers
Unspecified number of D-30, 122mm towed howitzers

Denmark
19x CAESAR, 155mm self propelled howitzers

Spain
Unspecified number of 105mm, OTO Melara Mod 56 howitzers

Slovakia (funded by Germany, Norway and Denmark)
16x SHKH Zuzana 2, 155mm self propelled howitzers

Latvia
2x MI-17 Transport Helicopters
Unspecified number of Stinger MANPADS
Unspecified number of heavy machines guns (with ammunition)
Unspecified number of drones
Spare parts for M109 Howitzers
 
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Well... to be fair white house do something like this too since 2001, but there is no denying Russia do this because of fear of Ukraine attacks.
 

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right to express yourself.
not really to be honest, i dont see how my posts are any different from other users here posting the same way but only difference is the opinions and thats it.
 

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To summarize this,
Scholz is getting bitched out by Zelensky since he only wants to send Leopards if America sends Abrams 1st. U.S. states oh no we have maintenance issues with our Abrams, now they are asking the latin American countries for soviet tanks for the Ukraine war so they can replace them with their western tanks for free

Holy shit Russia is going to destroy everyone's tanks they will probably go beg India and China at this rate.
 

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The US has thousands of M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams sitting in storage in the Nevada desert. It is hilarious to me to see the US pressuring and blackmailing European countries to give over their precious inventory over to Ukraine to make them even more dependent on the US.

Poland received M1A1 tanks just weeks ago. So why is the US not able to hand them over to Ukraine? „Fixing them up takes time“ nice excuse my man.

Why can’t they do the same for Ukraine? Ukraine could have had hundreds of Abrams delivers by now being used in assaults.

another excuse I saw was how Abrams wasn’t designed for Eastern Europe?! My man those tanks were designed to be used in Europe against the Soviet Union what the hell are you on about.

They make sense for Poland but not for Ukraine? Sure, Jan.

why should countries give away their precious tanks when the country with thousands of tanks in storage can’t be bother to do the same.

The US is clearly using the situation to its own gains. At least as a benefit it helps Ukraine drive away russia from its lands.
 

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The US has thousands of M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams sitting in storage in the Nevada desert. It is hilarious to me to see the US pressuring and blackmailing European countries to give over their precious inventory over to Ukraine to make them even more dependent on the US.

Poland received M1A1 tanks just weeks ago. So why is the US not able to hand them over to Ukraine? „Fixing them up takes time“ nice excuse my man.

Why can’t they do the same for Ukraine? Ukraine could have had hundreds of Abrams delivers by now being used in assaults.

another excuse I saw was how Abrams wasn’t designed for Eastern Europe?! My man those tanks were designed to be used in Europe against the Soviet Union what the hell are you on about.

They make sense for Poland but not for Ukraine? Sure, Jan.

why should countries give away their precious tanks when the country with thousands of tanks in storage can’t be bother to do the same.

The US is clearly using the situation to its own gains. At least as a benefit it helps Ukraine drive away russia from its lands.
How Ukraine gonna secure jet fuel on the field exclusively for them?
 
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not really to be honest, i dont see how my posts are any different from other users here posting the same way but only difference is the opinions and thats it.
You're the only person spamming a dozen tweets in a row from the same account. Nobody is trying to censor you here, frankly many people would appreciate a Russian perspective if it's good quality content, but your goal seems to be just to spam as much content as possible in a day.
 

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How Ukraine gonna secure jet fuel on the field exclusively for them?

Honeywell AGT1500

Specifications​

Engine output peaks at 1,500 hp (1,100 kW), with 2,750 lb⋅ft (3,730 N⋅m) of torque at that peak, which occurs at 3,000 rpm. The turbine can provide torque in excess of 667 lb⋅ft (904 N⋅m) at significantly lower RPMs. The engine weighs approximately 2,500 lb (1,100 kg) and occupies a volume of 40 cu ft (1.1 m3), measuring 63 in × 40 in × 28 in (1,600 mm × 1,020 mm × 710 mm).

The engine can use a variety of fuels, including jet fuel, gasoline, diesel and marine diesel.

The engine is a three-shaft machine composed of five sub-modules:


  1. Recuperator – a fixed cylindrical regenerative heat exchanger that extracts waste heat from the exhaust gases and uses it to preheat the compressed air
  2. Rotating Gas Producer – the five-stage, dual-spool compressor which achieves a 14.5:1 compression ratio at full power, driven by the compressor turbine, which operates with a maximum turbine inlet temperature of 2,180 °F (1,190 °C)
  3. Accessory Gearbox – bevel gears that extract 35 to 100 hp (26 to 75 kW) from the high-pressure spool to operate the fuel control unit, starter, oil pump, and vehicle hydraulic pump
  4. Power Turbines – the first stage of the two-stage power turbine is driven by a variable-geometry nozzle to improve efficiency
  5. Reduction Gearbox – reduces power turboshaft speed


As you can see,Diesel can be used.
 

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Abrams from US is not a top priority when there are still few hundreds T72s, PT91 and Leopards that can be delivered.
US has tons of other VERY important stuff. Ukraine will need few hundreds of Bradleys from US, tons of Humvees and later of course some F16s or F 18s
 
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The US has thousands of M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams sitting in storage in the Nevada desert. It is hilarious to me to see the US pressuring and blackmailing European countries to give over their precious inventory over to Ukraine to make them even more dependent on the US.

Poland received M1A1 tanks just weeks ago. So why is the US not able to hand them over to Ukraine? „Fixing them up takes time“ nice excuse my man.

Why can’t they do the same for Ukraine? Ukraine could have had hundreds of Abrams delivers by now being used in assaults.

another excuse I saw was how Abrams wasn’t designed for Eastern Europe?! My man those tanks were designed to be used in Europe against the Soviet Union what the hell are you on about.

They make sense for Poland but not for Ukraine? Sure, Jan.

why should countries give away their precious tanks when the country with thousands of tanks in storage can’t be bother to do the same.

The US is clearly using the situation to its own gains. At least as a benefit it helps Ukraine drive away russia from its lands.
I'm not sure who this guy is or what his record of accuracy is but I am curious if others have any thoughts on the argument made in this interview:

Famous French Historian: “This War is About Germany”


Historian Emmanuel Todd is one of France’s leading public intellectuals. At the age of just 25, he predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union in his book The Final Fall: An Essay on the Decomposition of the Soviet Sphere. Later in his career, he carried out pioneering work on family structure and how it impacts societal development.
Now at the age of 71, Todd doesn’t seem to mind ruffling feathers – as his remarks in a recent interview with Swiss magazine Weltwoche make clear. “I’ll give you the first interview because you write in German,” he begins by saying. “This war is about Germany.”
About Germany? What does he mean? Todd explains:
The financial crisis of 2008 made it clear that with reunification Germany became the leading power in Europe and thus also a rival of the USA. Until 1989 it was politically a dwarf. Now Berlin showed its willingness to get involved with the Russians. Combating this rapprochement became a priority of American strategy. The United States had always made it clear that they wanted to torpedo the gas agreement. The expansion of NATO in Eastern Europe was not primarily directed against Russia, but against Germany.
Asked who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines, Todd replies, “Of course the Americans. But that is completely unimportant. It is normal.” The important question is, “How can a society believe that it could have been the Russians?”

“We are dealing here with an inversion of possible reality,” says Todd. “The newspapers tell us how the Russians are shooting at prisons they have occupied. That they shoot at nuclear power plants that they control locally. That they blow up pipelines that they built themselves.”
It’s clear, then, that Todd subscribes to the theory I first discussed back in August: that the U.S. deliberately provoked conflict between Russia and Ukraine to sabotage the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, thereby ending (or at least severely curtailing) Russo-European interdependence.

Unfortunately, Todd doesn’t provide any specific evidence to back up his provocative claims. So the theory remains speculative. Of course, this doesn’t mean we should accept the conventional narrative that America just really cares about democracy.

So what, in Todd’s view, should be done? “I wish the Germans would understand: The side of the good they want to be on this time is not that of the United States,” he says. “The good means: end this war.”
While Todd certainly represents a minority viewpoint among Western intellectuals, as he himself acknowledges, it’s still worth considering.
 

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Honeywell AGT1500

Specifications​

Engine output peaks at 1,500 hp (1,100 kW), with 2,750 lb⋅ft (3,730 N⋅m) of torque at that peak, which occurs at 3,000 rpm. The turbine can provide torque in excess of 667 lb⋅ft (904 N⋅m) at significantly lower RPMs. The engine weighs approximately 2,500 lb (1,100 kg) and occupies a volume of 40 cu ft (1.1 m3), measuring 63 in × 40 in × 28 in (1,600 mm × 1,020 mm × 710 mm).

The engine can use a variety of fuels, including jet fuel, gasoline, diesel and marine diesel.

The engine is a three-shaft machine composed of five sub-modules:


  1. Recuperator – a fixed cylindrical regenerative heat exchanger that extracts waste heat from the exhaust gases and uses it to preheat the compressed air
  2. Rotating Gas Producer – the five-stage, dual-spool compressor which achieves a 14.5:1 compression ratio at full power, driven by the compressor turbine, which operates with a maximum turbine inlet temperature of 2,180 °F (1,190 °C)
  3. Accessory Gearbox – bevel gears that extract 35 to 100 hp (26 to 75 kW) from the high-pressure spool to operate the fuel control unit, starter, oil pump, and vehicle hydraulic pump
  4. Power Turbines – the first stage of the two-stage power turbine is driven by a variable-geometry nozzle to improve efficiency
  5. Reduction Gearbox – reduces power turboshaft speed


As you can see,Diesel can be used.
With optimum output?
If diesel works, uS army would use diesel too all this time.
 

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With optimum output?
If diesel works, uS army would use diesel too all this time.
Always better then the old soviet tanks,dont you think?
Speed is really not an issue in Ukraine,the power of force is more important.
 

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I think numbers right now is more important.
If there will be offensive many, many tanks will be blow up on mines, by artillery and in that case there is no difference between T55 and Abrams. Both are out of action.
 

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