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Wear West armor/dress bring a LongSword: A real Knight and brave!

Wear Japanese armor/dress bring a Katana: Oh so cool!like a legend!

Wear Chinese armor/dress bring a Chinese sword: Oh !Wonderful!Chinese civilization!

Turkic dress and Türk Kılıcı :What a evil barbarian!

Bro a Turkish fan of the Euro 2020 wore a fez and a long moustache as a joke guess what the Italians laughed even took photos.

Some Italian fans dressed into super mario and pizza.

The Turkish fan was berated and cursed by Turks.

Forget Westerners our people live with an inferiority complex.
 
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And when a Japanese or Korean wear the tradition dress,the westerner think they are cool
I seen these sorts of types in London, they behave in a way in which they think it makes them look important to the English but in reality the English look at them like they are 3rd worlders.


These guys are all (supposedly) dressed up like sultans, janisarries, veziers and big ass Ottoman court members... all while their great-grandpas and grandmas were probably just a bunch of villagers living in poverty and ignorance like 99% of the people in the Ottoman Empire.
But can you explain something to brains that learn "history" from TRT soap operas and Facebook trolls.

ps These stupid dresses above are not the traditional clothes of the Turkish people.
 

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A bunch of people dressed into Ottoman clothes to go vote.

Godamn!!

Based Department!!

I need to get my fcking citizenship and vote in these elections.

If I vote in australia im gonna dress like Crocodile Dundee and wear the Fez.
 

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“you ppl are trying to demonise Erdogan with excuses originating from thin air.”

lol you seriously said this.

Erdogan needs protection and people need food.

but people lack food so that erdogan can be protected and have a luxurious life
 

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These guys are all (supposedly) dressed up like sultans, janisarries, veziers and big ass Ottoman court members... all while their great-grandpas and grandmas were probably just a bunch of villagers living in poverty and ignorance like 99% of the people in the Ottoman Empire.
But can you explain something to brains that learn "history" from TRT soap operas and Facebook trolls.

ps These stupid dresses above are not the traditional clothes of the Turkish people.
99% japanese or any other people(British or Chinese or any others) dressed up like Kings,Knight,Samurai.....ll while their great-grandpas and grandmas were probably just a bunch of villagers living in poverty and ignorance like 99% of the people in the Japan,ENgland,China or others......

And they wear stupid dress in Japanese Anime or American Movies or PC game.

That s quite normal.

Maybe stupid but they dressed up like sultans, janisarries, veziers to show they like Turkiye.The heart is not bad
 

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These guys are all (supposedly) dressed up like sultans, janisarries, veziers and big ass Ottoman court members... all while their great-grandpas and grandmas were probably just a bunch of villagers living in poverty and ignorance like 99% of the people in the Ottoman Empire.
But can you explain something to brains that learn "history" from TRT soap operas and Facebook trolls.

ps These stupid dresses above are not the traditional clothes of the Turkish people.
What do you think:

Would Sultan Abdülhamit Han have let Erdoğan be even Prime minister, if Erdoğan had won the election.
İmagine a poor guy who comes from village leads million of Ottoman citizens and occupies Istanbul Parliament against Padişah.

Recall that how many times Abdülhamit abolished the new Parliament and Meşrutiyet.
 

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99% japanese or any other people(British or Chinese or any others) dressed up like Kings,Knight,Samurai.....ll while their great-grandpas and grandmas were probably just a bunch of villagers living in poverty and ignorance like 99% of the people in the Japan,ENgland,China or others......

And they wear stupid dress in Japanese Anime or American Movies or PC game.

That s quite normal.

Maybe stupid but they dressed up like sultans, janisarries, veziers to show they like Turkiye.The heart is not bad

Bro I think its nostalgia.

Honestly lets be honest the Ottomans and the old Japaneae and the Medieval Europeans had such awesome drip.

Will continue this later 😁
 

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You are forgetting it was the Ottoman parliament that got the Ottomans into the 93 harbi war.

Not Abdulhamid II. AbdulHamid II became more authoratrian and holding absolute power overtime.

Holding such power was bad for the long term but worked for the short term.

Even Ataturk after founding the republic still held onto a lot of power as he believed the Turks were too young to have a democracy or a republic.

Same example in Singapore.

Different times and different eras.

Even after Abdulhamid II was brought down the empire was ruled by the 3 pashas.

Sultan abdulaziz and sultan mahmud ii despite reforms still held absolute power not just Abdulhamid II.

Situation is comparable to the Tsarist Empire in some respect.

Also similar to Japan. Emperor Meiji founded parliament but still had a lot of power

Japanese emperors did not requlish their power until they lost ww2.

Hence why Turkiye is a flawed democracy mixed in with totalatarian and authoratrian systems.

Turkiye is not a full blown liberal democracy but neither is it a full blown dictatorship.

Even if Erdogan rules with authoratarianism he does not have full power.

Turkish political system has lots of balances of power to keep everybody in check.
Lol, what do you know about the system in turkey.

made up claims like:

“erdogans authoraitarianism does not have full power” or

“turkish political system has lots of balances to keep everybody in check”
are pretty laughable.

lets just make up stuff out our asses and do it 15.000 kilometers away and expect people to take us serious.

What keeps everybody in check is laws.
what we have are not laws anymore, its what erdogan says. He is the one that said “i dont care or respect what anayasa mahkemesi says”.
You people make up dumb and funny stories about turkey in your mind and you believe those stories. Its actually pathetic.
 
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You are forgetting it was the Ottoman parliament that got the Ottomans into the 93 harbi war.

Not Abdulhamid II. AbdulHamid II became more authoratrian and holding absolute power overtime.

Holding such power was bad for the long term but worked for the short term.

Even Ataturk after founding the republic still held onto a lot of power as he believed the Turks were too young to have a democracy or a republic.

Same example in Singapore.

Different times and different eras.

Even after Abdulhamid II was brought down the empire was ruled by the 3 pashas.

Sultan abdulaziz and sultan mahmud ii despite reforms still held absolute power not just Abdulhamid II.

Situation is comparable to the Tsarist Empire in some respect.

Also similar to Japan. Emperor Meiji founded parliament but still had a lot of power

Japanese emperors did not requlish their power until they lost ww2.

Hence why Turkiye is a flawed democracy mixed in with totalatarian and authoratrian systems.

Turkiye is not a full blown liberal democracy but neither is it a full blown dictatorship.

Even if Erdogan rules with authoratarianism he does not have full power.

Turkish political system has lots of balances of power to keep everybody in check.
Why dont you come to turkey bacome turkish citizen and live with 400 dollar in a month. Even though we have authoritarians, you know their power are under control by the will of allah. It is better than free rich and liberal motherland Australia of yours.
I hope one day governments of austria, belgium, germany and australia would kick these guys out and they would have to live in turkey. So that i can respect their decisions and claims.
 

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It may be an effective style for the average US citizen, but it's the kind of idiocy that can completely backfire from to Balkan borders and further east.

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It may be an effective style for the average US citizen, but it's the kind of idiocy that can completely backfire from to Balkan borders and further east.

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Its things like this that make Erdogan get elected again.

Erdogan uses this as a talking point.

Im really thinking Erdogan and Putin stayed this long in power because Western newspapers never knew when to shut up.
 

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Its things like this that make Erdogan get elected again.

Erdogan uses this as a talking point.

Im really thinking Erdogan and Putin stayed this long in power because Western newspapers never knew when to shut up.
I already wrote my idea months ago that the west is not interested in who wins. My opinion is that they want to see chaos, they want Turkiye to be paralysed by a process of chaos and to solve the problems that TR has become a wedge in the meantime.

If Millet alliance wins, creditors will queue up to bring their money to TR, if Cumhur alliance wins, new financial constraint will come. No matter which understanding will form the next government, we will be forced into isolationism. Either by force or conditional welfare. We will have to proceed on a much more delicate balance in maintaining doctrines such as the blue homeland and related others like external security circles and eliminating the threat at the source.

MIT only, has neutralised over 30 senior terrorists in the last few weeks alone. Most of these terrorists are figures and executives who are directly directed or indirectly used by US organisations operating in the region. This situation creates a great discomfort, they do not see it as sustainable.
 

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I already wrote my idea months ago that the west is not interested in who wins. My opinion is that they want to see chaos, they want Turkiye to be paralysed by a process of chaos and to solve the problems that TR has become a wedge in the meantime.

If Millet alliance wins, creditors will queue up to bring their money to TR, if Cumhur alliance wins, new financial constraint will come. No matter which understanding will form the next government, we will be forced into isolationism. Either by force or conditional welfare. We will have to proceed on a much more delicate balance in maintaining doctrines such as the blue homeland and related others like external security circles and eliminating the threat at the source.


Turkiye just needs to forge its own destiny.

Thats the way to go.

We are living in a multi polar world.

Being in one camp does no benefit.
 

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Funny how former communist shitholes can easily can get into the EU.

When it comes to Turkiye they make you jump through hoops.

Seriously I do believe Russia has a higher chance in joining the EU than Turkiye.
TR's full membership of the EU means that it will become the largest political centre of power in the European parliament together with its hinterland. Dead end for neo-europeanists. This would be a profound contrast to the German-French framework, which is the ideological and industrial powerhouse of the EU ideal. Therefore, we can never enter the EU. The only way we can enter the EU is if we allow the PKK state and watch the disintegration of the country. In this way, they can let in not in one piece, but several states that are feuding with each other, together or in turn.
 

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TR's full membership of the EU means that it will become the largest political centre of power in the European parliament together with its hinterland. Dead end for neo-europeanists. This would be a profound contrast to the German-French framework, which is the ideological and industrial powerhouse of the EU ideal. Therefore, we can never enter the EU. The only way we can enter the EU is if we allow the PKK state and watch the disintegration of the country. In this way, they can let in not in one piece, but several states that are feuding with each other, together or in turn.

Just for another treaty of Sevres but this time even much worse.

We seen how that turned out.

Best example is actually Hungary with the Treaty of Trianon how it got partitioned.

Turkiye should care about its own security artik. Erdogan was pretty foolish to sign that refugee deal.

Eu for decades have always been dishonest.

I dont think joining brics will do any benefit.

Turkiye has been in the OIc for decades and the OIC has been broken so many times.

I would suggest a Turkic union but that wont materialise.

Turkiye can join in so many unions or whatever it is but wont have as much benefit as the EU.

I can see why so many try to join it some British people are even regreting brexit.

EU has become much more political rather than Economic. Poland amd Hungary believe the EU interferes too into their internal politics.
 

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Just for another treaty of Sevres but this time even much worse.

We seen how that turned out.

Best example is actually Hungary with the Treaty of Trianon how it got partitioned.

Turkiye should care about its own security artik. Erdogan was pretty foolish to sign that refugee deal.

Eu for decades have always been dishonest.

I dont think joining brics will do any benefit.

Turkiye has been in the OIc for decades and the OIC has been broken so many times.

I would suggest a Turkic union but that wont materialise.

Turkiye can join in so many unions or whatever it is but wont have as much benefit as the EU.

I can see why so many try to join it some British people are even regreting brexit.

EU has become much more political rather than Economic. Poland amd Hungary believe the EU interferes too into their internal politics.
Exactly. That's why we should take our heads out of partisanship and look at the horizon. Apart from these political daily bickering, we should stay within the common denominator. Whichever party cadres will shape the new era, isolationism will be our death warrant.

I appreciate Kılıçdaroğlu when he gives guarantees to his people on very issues which I mentioned above. I think he has a big baggage on his back, Chp braintrust created very weird alliance model, I don't know how he can carry it and how he can get rid of it, but I don't find it right for him too, to give such guarantees that we will turn our faces to the west in the post-2016 paradigm. Kılıçdaroğlu should say that we will build our own power centre, we will push back and not give up on all the red lines that the USA, the wannabe Reichs or Little Corporal cross.

I am not interested in Kılıçdaroğlu's statements about onions and tomatoes,I'm saying this as a friend of yours who's been through a lot in the last 5 years. Also, since he comes from a social democratic tradition, it can increase the contact and support of the state to the people. Regarding welfare, what we experienced in the first 10 years of the AKP was mostly related to global markets and the monetary policies of the FED, The price of that money-abundance was paid with the nonsense of the solution process and the Atlanticists pushing the state to the edge of the cliff. Anatolian Turkish people have never been a Swiss in any period of their history, Especially in times when the ideal of independence was paramount. I have only one vote, and I will not vote for Mr Kemal's onions, nor for Mr Recep's similar statements. These are not my real priority among the things I am interested in.
 
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Funny how former communist shitholes can easily can get into the EU.

When it comes to Turkiye they make you jump through hoops.

Seriously I do believe Russia has a higher chance in joining the EU than Turkiye.

What delays them into bringing Bosnia, Macedonia and Albania.
Turkey will never join the EU no matter who rules the country
Turkey joining the EU means that Turkey gets to have the highest number of seats in the European parliament which means that if nations like the baltic states were to support Turkey in some issues, Turkey may actually influence all of Europe to move in the direction that Turkey wants

The only possible method for Turkey's acceptance into the EU is by dividing Turkey into smaller states all fighting against each other in order to weaken the race known as "Turks" before they get incorporated into the EU so that they can be easily controlled by the Europeanists or as they call themselves so; one of the reasons why EU supports the PKK
Another reason is religion but that is for another discussion
 

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TR's full membership of the EU means that it will become the largest political centre of power in the European parliament together with its hinterland. Dead end for neo-europeanists. This would be a profound contrast to the German-French framework, which is the ideological and industrial powerhouse of the EU ideal. Therefore, we can never enter the EU. The only way we can enter the EU is if we allow the PKK state and watch the disintegration of the country. In this way, they can let in not in one piece, but several states that are feuding with each other, together or in turn.

If Turkiye were to disintegrate along the lines of sevres as they tried before, we would soon after cease to exist. Our enemies having broken our back would then look to slaughter the remaining regions with Turks and no one in the world will come to our aid. The west wont talk about it and if they do they will show it as a good thing happening. The east would consider it as something that isn't their problem. The "so-called" Muslim world will either help the invaders or the few that generally care for us are too weak to do anything about it.

If we look regionally and the games at play, our enemies have been trying to bury us for a long time.

Concerning Greece, the west unilaterally sides with all of their claims and ambitions in the region. From the Aegean to the east med. They pretend as if the TRNC does not exist. The illegal attempted coup and ethnic genocide of the Muslims Turks of the Cyprus island is not talked about. They constantly inflame tensions.

Concerning Armenia a nation whose allied to Russia and supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Her lies and her slanders are supported by the west. Her territorial ambitions were being treated seriously by the west. A war mongering nation is portrayed as a victim. Despite Turkiye being in NATO, NATO sides with Russias Armenian ally against us.

Concerning the PKK the east and west unite to support these terrorists to undermine our sovereignty. In the case of Syria we even see the USA and Russia working together against Turkiye. In the same way we see France and Russia working together in Libya against Turkiye.


Ultimately Ataturk saved this nation from extermination, its why i cannot tolerate stinking political pseudo islamists taught and trained in american schools attacking the great man. The only kind of person that could hate Ataturk is the kind of person that hates Turks. I enjoy seeing Ataturks signature on all our military developments, i would like to see Baykar do the same, maybe a portrait of Ataturk in their offices too. By respecting Ataturk we shit on our enemies hatreds of us.

Just like back in the day when the Russian Tsar was communicating with patriarch of istanbul on how to undermine and conquer the Turks. He told the Russians that the Turks can only be conquered when their national ethnic conscience and islamic faith is destroyed.

Under AK party they played an insidious game where they tried to make Muslims hate Nationalists and for Nationalists to hate Muslims, to divide the two strongest pillars of our nation and make them work to destroy the other.
 
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