TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Sanchez]

doesn't license have expire date / i mean f-16 block 30 is very old

I never understood the usage of patent registration when it comes to cutting edge tech in military industry. The idea of protecting your rights is a complete illusion in military industry.

Will this radar absorbing patent now not be used by USA and anyone else? Who is stopping them? It's going to make them look like a bad trader but no one is going to care.

Regarding F-16s, it's not about licensing or patents, they hardly matter.

When you buy anything via Foreign Military Sales, US gets a say in how that equipment is looked after. They also get a say in how it's modified, how it's discarded and how it's sold. Any foreign customers for Özgür that got their F-16s via FMS(which is the majority of users), would need US approval. Going forward without US approval would bring a torrent of sanctions and possibly being cut from any US defence equipment, training and spare parts for a long long while both for the customer and us.

FMS is a wonderful thing that gives cutting edge weapons no one else in the world can do just as good to US allies at prices US itself pays. But it also brings many commitments. It's a two edged sword.

 

[Radonsider]

not the whole plane. for the parts

That's why you can never be indigenous

 

[TsumugiShirogane]

ok mr expert, only you know these things just because you can read open articles faster than me, do you?

If you read those open articles you'd know how advanced of a machine F-35 is. We're lucky if we can approximate the performance of an F-22 with the domestic engine in the next 20 years. China with tens of billions of dollars, industrial espionage with all the stolen data from JSF project, and an army of students and engineers in the top US/European universities and companies managed to fart out the J-20 with the RCS and the engine nowhere near the F-35. We still don't have a missile with similar performance that of Meteor.

 

[Era_shield]

If you read those open articles you'd know how advanced of a machine F-35 is. We're lucky if we can approximate the performance of an F-22 with the domestic engine in the next 20 years. China with tens of billions of dollars, industrial espionage with all the stolen data from JSF project, and an army of students and engineers in the top US/European universities and companies managed to fart out the J-20 with the RCS and the engine nowhere near the F-35. We still don't have a missile with similar performance that of Meteor.

Same broken record stuck on a loop for the past 15 years.

 

[buraktunahan]

If you read those open articles you'd know how advanced of a machine F-35 is. We're lucky if we can approximate the performance of an F-22 with the domestic engine in the next 20 years. China with tens of billions of dollars, industrial espionage with all the stolen data from JSF project, and an army of students and engineers in the top US/European universities and companies managed to fart out the J-20 with the RCS and the engine nowhere near the F-35. We still don't have a missile with similar performance that of Meteor.

So what should we do, sit down and cry? Or should we drop everything and mourn? What do you want to say?

And the most important question: What do you think we should do? What is your suggested solution?

 

[Zafer]

We still don't have a missile with similar performance that of Meteor

Our scientists claim that we will have Gökhan in just a few short years, can you believe it.

 

[zio]

I am very curious about how to develop domestic flight control computer and software for F16 özgür project

 

[Yasar_TR]

Please stay on topic.
This is

TF-X KAAN | F-16 Özgür | Hürjet | Hürkuş - Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects​

Thread.
Keep political and geopolitical discussions away from this thread.

 

[zio]

hürkuş A versus hürkuş B

 

[MADDOG]

As per İbrahim Sünnetçi, TAI has finally decided upon a flying testbed. Behold the Global 6000, the same aircraft tasked with fulfilling the requirements of the HAVA-SOJ project.

The aircraft has either arrived or is about to be delivered.

 

[Khagan1923]

As per İbrahim Sünnetçi, TAI has finally decided upon a flying testbed. Behold the Global 6000, the same aircraft tasked with fulfilling the requirements of the HAVA-SOJ project.

The aircraft has either arrived or is about to be delivered.


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Interesting, I expected them to go for a second aircraft from THY.

 

[MADDOG]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1670887783282405387

ANKA-III carrying a SOM and Super Şimşek

KAAN's cockpit on display

 

[zizuzidane10]

Somebody knows what is the engine of SUPER SIMSEK?

 

[Afif]

Looks like ther is a customer....

Definitely, it probably called Turkish Air Force.

 

[demir283]

TEI and GE Aerospace sign F110 MRO service agreement

LE BOURGET, France – TUSAS Engine Industries Inc. (TEI) and GE Aerospace have reached an agreement extending TEI’s license to conduct F110 Depot Level Maintenance services for several countries which operate F-16 & F-15 fighter aircraft. The collaboration will further strengthen ties between TEI and its long-term partner GE Aerospace in military engine services.

TEI and GE Aerospace sign F110 MRO service agreement | GE Aerospace

www.geaerospace.com

 

[Samba]

Any news about Murad AESA? Is it (smaller form) being tested with Akıncı?

I have heard som semi conductor parts are difficult to import. Is that true?

 

[boredaf]

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Georgio Clementi: "A historic day at Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI). The first day of the first ever test pilot and flight test engineer course to be held in Türkiye. Twelve students from TAI, the Turkish Air Force, Directorate General Civil Aviation and ASELSAN commenced their journey to a career flight testing fixed wing civil and military aircraft, such as the Hurkus, Hurjet and TF-X National Fighter in the background. Turkish Flight Test Instructors Murat Ozpala and Emre Can Kaya joined the ITPS instructor team setting yet another first for this initiative. The course marks the launch of ITPS Türkiye, the satellite training organization of the International Test Pilots School (ITPS) under a partnership agreement with TAI. TAI is Türkiye's national aircraft manufacturer boasting a growing product line of advanced fixed and rotary wing aircraft. ITPS is the world's biggest independent school of flight testing, now operating two campuses, in Canada and Turkey."

Is there any new information about the Hürkuş-2 project? It feels like there hasn't been any news or updates for months now.

 

[MADDOG]

Is there any new information about the Hürkuş-2 project? It feels like there hasn't been any news or updates for months now.

Parts production. Prototyping takes time. And TAI arguably has more important stuff in line.

 

[boredaf]

Parts production. Prototyping takes time. And TAI arguably has more important stuff in line.

So long as it's going forward steadily, and not just borderline abandoned while dealing with Kaan and Hürjet.

And while I understand and agree that they are much more important, especially long term, armed variant of Hürkuş-2 could take a lot of pressure from our aging F-16s and F5s by taking their counterterrorism role over.

 

[MADDOG]

So long as it's going forward steadily, and not just borderline abandoned while dealing with Kaan and Hürjet.

And while I understand and agree that they are much more important, especially long term, armed variant of Hürkuş-2 could take a lot of pressure from our aging F-16s and F5s by taking their counterterrorism role over.

It's not abandoned as far as I'm aware. The probability of that project being abandoned is also quite low in my personal opinion since the Air Force Command is nowadays interested in Hürkuş-2 and not Hürkuş-B.