TR Land Vehicle Programs

[Kaan Azman]

Yeah great but it was very noisy it souded like big chainsaw .

It was running on hybrid mode most probably, electric mode is more silent

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679723998152740864

Alpar Battery Pack
- Developed by Otokar
- Li-Ion NMC type (nickel manganese cobalt)
- Weight 480kg per pack
- Compatible with MIL-STD-810 track vibration profile
- Capacity 69kW
- Up to 4 packs (276kW total) can be installed depending on requirements.

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679723998152740864

Alpar Battery Pack
- Developed by Otokar
- Li-Ion NMC type (nickel manganese cobalt)
- Weight 480kg per pack
- Compatible with MIL-STD-810 track vibration profile
- Capacity 69kW
- Up to 4 packs (276kW total) can be installed depending on requirements.

Can't wait to see other configurations and get more information about this. They might not become the main fighting force of an army for some time, but I think UGVs will become really important support elements and it'll happen pretty soon, just as it happened with UAVs.

 

[YeşilVatan]

Can't wait to see other configurations and get more information about this. They might not become the main fighting force of an army for some time, but I think UGVs will become really important support elements and it'll happen pretty soon, just as it happened with UAVs.

I think they'll be indispensable in urban conditions with smaller drones and UGVs integrated into a command system at company level. They'll do what Kirpi's did during Hendek operations, but without putting blue forces in danger. Ironically, they will probably have much greater situational awarenes with the configuration I'm talking about than manned platforms of today.

 

[boredaf]

Ironically, they will probably have much greater situational awarenes with the configuration I'm talking about than manned platforms of today.

Oh they definitely will, think about having a system like Aselsan's Örümcek (Spider) for tanks, integrated into UGV's (both light and heavy imo), supported by recon UAV's like STM's Togan, and maybe even accompanied by kamikaze drones like (again) STM's Kargu or drones that carry Mete missiles or mortar rounds (STM's Boyga).

We can more or less fight an entire urban battle without putting our soldiers within kilometers of the actual fight.

 

[wolveray1]

Can't wait to see other configurations and get more information about this. They might not become the main fighting force of an army for some time, but I think UGVs will become really important support elements and it'll happen pretty soon, just as it happened with UAVs.

I think they will better serve as scouts or the tip of the spear during military attack.
Just look currently at recent ukrainian attacks.So many destructions.
Those lives lost could be saved by just sending these ugv at front and observe the counter attack from.

 

[YeşilVatan]

We can more or less fight an entire urban battle without putting our soldiers within kilometers of the actual fight.

That's a stretch I think. Someone will need to kick down doors and clean rooms if we care about civilian casualities.

Hopefully those guys will be armored to the teeth with powered exoskeleton armor etc.

 

[No Name]

That's a stretch I think. Someone will need to kick down doors and clean rooms if we care about civilian casualities.

Hopefully those guys will be armored to the teeth with powered exoskeleton armor etc.

Turkey is already working on a solution with the Sarsılmaz's SARBOT These types of robots have been shown to be able to open doors and climb stairs.

Boston Dynamics's Atlas is even more advanced the Sarsilmaz's robot but as time pass, I'm sure that Sarsilmaz will be able to build their own Atlas counterpart eventually.

no job is safe from AI.

 

[Afif]

We can more or less fight an entire urban battle without putting our soldiers within kilometers of the actual fight.

Against insurgents? Maybe. Against a near-peer adversary? Not so much.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680172922269310976

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680172922269310976

My favorite part is the sideview mirrors, so long as they keep them just the same way, as if its a dump truck, I'm happy.

I love that we can finally have a vehicle with 35mm domestic turret on it.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

My favorite part is the sideview mirrors, so long as they keep them just the same way, as if its a dump truck, I'm happy.

I love that we can finally have a vehicle with 35mm domestic turret on it

The introduction of the Korhan turret was needed for the IFV of all the Turkish defense manufacturers. I hope we will hear more about the IFV tender soon, as the tender has been delayed for some time. I wish to see the Akkor lite that will be used on the IFVs of the Turkish army.

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680172922269310976

Heavy ASCOD vibes from the frontend, I do like it.

 

[TheInsider]

Unfortunately, we won't see this baby in the inventory.

 

[Afif]

Unfortunately, we won't see this baby in the inventory.

I don't understand, why Turkish army don't want it if they are going with tracked solution for their future manned IFVs.
Besides, wasn't it designed by the same team that was behind Altay development?

 

[Fairon]

I don't understand, why Turkish army don't want it if they are going with tracked solution for their future manned IFVs.
Besides, wasn't it designed by the same team that was behind Altay development?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Sanchez]

I don't understand, why Turkish army don't want it if they are going with tracked solution for their future manned IFVs.
Besides, wasn't it designed by the same team that was behind Altay development?

YN-ZMA program does supposedly consist of both tracked and wheeled components. Still waiting for a slimmer of official info tho. What I read few years ago* hinted at wheeled vehicles being the priority and from ACV IFVs being modernized, we can surmise that has not yet changed.

Found it. Per Defence Turk in 2021, First batch will include 362 vehicles, 8x8 IFVs and ARVs and 6x6 command versions.

Yeni Nesil Hafif Zırhlı Araçlar Projesi’nde “Yarışmacılar Sahnede”

IDEF 2021’de kara aracı üreticileri gelişmiş ve yenilikçi ürünler sergiledi

www.defenceturk.net

As per Tulpar winning the tender or not, we'll see.

 

[Afif]

YN-ZMA program does supposedly consist of both tracked and wheeled components. Still waiting for a slimmer of official info tho. What I read few years ago* hinted at wheeled vehicles being the priority and from ACV IFVs being modernized, we can surmise that has not yet changed.

Found it. Per Defence Turk in 2021, First batch will include 362 vehicles, 8x8 IFVs and ARVs and 6x6 command versions.

Yeni Nesil Hafif Zırhlı Araçlar Projesi’nde “Yarışmacılar Sahnede”

IDEF 2021’de kara aracı üreticileri gelişmiş ve yenilikçi ürünler sergiledi

www.defenceturk.net

As per Tulpar winning the tender or not, we'll see.

It is Interesting if for now Turkish military prioritize 8x8 Wheeled IFVs over tracked ones.

While there is no doubt trakced IFV's provide better balsitic protection compared to Wheeled ones, however, as Ukraine conflict is showing direct IFV to IFV battle is rare occurring. And somewhat surprisingly, most of the time just a mine or even a close artillery hit quickly putting these tracked vehicles out of commission by knocking out their tracks. (even if the soldiers are inside remain safe)

On the other hand, 8x8 Wheeled IFV's can still remain mobile after taking significant hits.

While providing the same firepower as their tracked counterparts.

Last bit not the least, modern heavy designs like 38t Boxer or 40t ARMA ii seems to be closing the gap with tracked vehicles when it comes to balsitic protection.

And even the current ARMA I has quite thick composite armor.

I am no armor expert, shouldn't these blocks be able to provides STANAG 4569 level 6 protection or at least level 5?

 

[Era_shield]

It is Interesting if for now Turkish military prioritize 8x8 Wheeled IFVs over tracked ones.

While there is no doubt trakced IFV's provide better balsitic protection compared to Wheeled ones, however, as Ukraine conflict is showing direct IFV to IFV battle is rare occurring. And somewhat surprisingly, most of the time just a mine or even a close artillery hit quickly putting these tracked vehicles out of commission by knocking out their tracks. (even if the soldiers are inside remain safe)

On the other hand, 8x8 Wheeled IFV's can still remain mobile after taking significant hits.
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While providing the same firepower as their tracked counterparts.

Last bit not the least, modern heavy designs like 38t Boxer or 40t ARMA ii seems to be closing the gap with tracked vehicles when it comes to balsitic protection.

And even the current ARMA I has quite thick composite armor.
View attachment 59207

I am no armor expert, shouldn't these blocks be able to provides STANAG 4569 level 6 protection or at least level 5?

I don't think it's a matter of prioritisation but rather due to the fact that the tracked vehicle needs to operate with the Altay, so it needs to have at least as high a top speed, be procured in similar numbers, etc. IMO once Altay production starts, the tracked IFV vehicle tender will be awarded.

 

[Huelague]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680172922269310976

The best solution right now.