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[Gary]

No. But lundin share this in a facebook defence forum.
Lundin boat
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Could somebody ID the RWS?

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1331115629684789250

 

[Madokafc]

Indonesian Navy is very lacking in surface combatant warship line up, the only thing worthy to mention is three Bung Tomo class, four Diponegoro class, two Martadinata class , meanwhile the other is not that much even as back up units the likes of five or six Ahmad Yani class frigates, Three Fatahillah class and around 14 Patimura class corvettes. And now Indonesian Navy had three Fleet units (Koarmada I, II, and III), as it is right now Indonesian Navy third fleet is literally a skeleton unit with only some patrol ships and boats along with some provisioned or loaned ships from other fleets made up the Third fleets surface combatant ships. Meanwhile for a while Indonesia had already sign the preamble contract for Danish OMS to supply the first pair of derivative of Itver Huitveld class to Indonesian Navy after preliminary design process and other thing to be finished. The process will take quite some time for the pair to joint the fleet. And at the same time the Ministry of Defense is still in process of negotiation for more warships to be built and added to fleets, including Japanese Frigate design FFM 30.

To address the matter, Ministry of Defense had formulate a plan is which is defense interim program. For the Navy, they are currently in search for readily available warships to fulfill Indonesian Navy needs. This very important as the Navy is had to use most of their available fleets to address many challenge, including patrolling in the hot contested area of North Natuna Sea, patrolling the pirate invested of Southern Mindanao of Sulu sea in which had naval border with North Kalimantan and North Sulawesi, along with patrolling in Ambalat sea in which contested by belligerent of Royal Malaysian Navy. That aside, Indonesian Navy must commited herself to tri nation joint Patrol for Malacca strait and safe guarding the three ALKI zones. And not stopped until that, Indonesian Navy itself is had to at stand by ready for training routine and international exercise like Komodo exercise and CARAT. With so many duties at hand, and related them with what Indonesian Navy had, there is large gap in Indonesian Navy major surface combatant units in which must be addressed as soon as possible. If not when coupled with Maintenance routine schedule and other thing like breakdown or capsize accidents because of high usage and wear tear of the hull vessels things will get more worse for the fleets, the Navy is surely underhanded and under equipped.

As it is currently stands right now, most of candidate is mainly came from European design. One of the serious contender is Germany Bremen class with hull number of F213 and F214 is currently under negotiation. The other ship under consideration is Maestrale class of Italian Navy, with hull number F 576 and F 577 is being under consideration. There is another talk with Japanese JMSDF for their older type of multi purpose of Destroyer Warship, but what kind of ship is under discussion and offer on the table there is not much can be talk here as it is still being classified for both sides. And there is another offer from friendly country, United Kingdom, but the offer is not reach into serious discussion stage and need to be follow up as soon as possible.

However, the process is should follow the carefully consideration and thoughtful process. In which must consider logistic issue, technological gap, hull age, maintenance issue and other thing to follow. For a time, there is a need to speed up the negotiation and transfer process, as currently stand right now Indonesian Navy can't stand anymore with this kind of high operational tempo without sacrificing much of what they had.

 

[Agent_G]

2 Kapal LST Baru Siap Masuk Dinas TNI AL​

edited by moderator: 2 new LSt just inducted to the navy service.

guys please use English thanks.

2 Kapal LST Baru Siap Masuk Dinas TNI AL

27 November 2020 KRI Teluk Kendari 518 dan KRI Teluk Kupang 519 (photos : JPNN) Hebat, 2 Kapal Perang Terbaru TNI AL Segera Beroperasi, Ini ...

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[lemons]

Could somebody ID the RWS?

Looks like it is Sea Rogue from Reutech, a navalized version of Reutech Rogue RWS.

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Anyway, hi everyone. Been silent reader in pdf for 5 years lol.

 

[Parry Brima]

And there is another offer from friendly country, United Kingdom, but the offer is not reach into serious discussion stage and need to be follow up as soon as possible.

Are we talking about Duke-class here? That would be nice.

Do we plan to purchase just 2 out of Breman, Maestrale, and the Brit warships, or we plan to take them all (6 warships)?

 

[pasingsingan]

Hola...just silent reader for years...from "pinggiran jakarta"...any video of kartika yudha exercise?

 

[Gundala]

I prefer we getting the local OPV/Corvette program up and running. As much as we need Fregate/Destro we would also need alot more of those OPV/Corvette. PAL already has her hand on KCR 60, why dont we just use that and copy that Diponegoro class to make 80-90ish meter "new" design?

 

[pasingsingan]

Hola...just silent reader for years...from "pinggiran jakarta"...any video of kartika yudha exercise?

sorry wrong place...

 

[Van Kravchenko]

I agree, I'm just saying that buying into either the Scorpene or 214 (which are both used by our neighbor's navies) screams more about hanky-panky and parade military mindset than ACTUAL defense planning.

I dont know so much about subs, INHO both of Scorpene and 214 has 1500+ tons and with moreless same capability.

And both of'em is different than 2 type of subs that we operate today.

Most likele if the contract are approved to get a new type of submarine, the winner must be the one that give a local SOE shipyard to build at least one ship.

WDYT ? Wich one is most faborable for Navy ?

 

[Gary]

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[Var Dracon]

Infra RCS/IRCS (PT. Infra RCS Indonesia) Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) radar

 

[Gary]

 

[Robiolastecc]

Hi everyone, i've been silently reading in .pk for years, allow me join here even i probably will just reading silently again mostly

I know Bima Suci are big, but when compared to these ships, it looked so huge

 

[trishna_amrta]

Hi everyone, i've been silently reading in .pk for years, allow me join here even i probably will just reading silently again mostly

I know Bima Suci are big, but when compared to these ships, it looked so huge

That because her honour guard are basically rather small vessel. Bima Suci herself is not that big of a vessel for a modern tall ship

 

[Gary]

That because her honour guard are basically rather small vessel. Bima Suci herself is not that big of a vessel for a modern tall ship

Fatahillah are even smaller than the already small Diponegoros

 

[Robiolastecc]

That because her honour guard are basically rather small vessel. Bima Suci herself is not that big of a vessel for a modern tall ship

She still 10 meter longer than martadinata tho, but well yeah, it not problem of the tall ship too big, just our surface combatant that are too small *sigh

 

[frashis79]

Fatahillah are even smaller than the already small Diponegoros

 

[trishna_amrta]

our surface combatant that are too small *sigh

Lightweight surface combatant do have their role particularly in green water environment at western half of Indonesia internal waters, but then again that role typically also require packing bigger punch (AShM & LWT) and more horsepower (acceleration)

 

[Madokafc]

Indonesia to build naval base, combat command in Natuna​

27th Nov 2020 19:24

Natuna, Riau Islands (ANTARA) - The National Defense Forces (TNI) will build a main naval base and combat command in Natuna district, Riau Islands province next year, Riau Islands acting governor Bahtiar Baharuddin revealed on Friday.

TNI Chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto has notified the Naval Security Board (Bakamla), the commander of the Tanjungpinang Main Naval Base IV, and the Riau Islands governor of the plan to build the facilities in writing, he said.

"We have received a written notification. The regional government fully supports it," he added.

He lauded the TNI chief's decision to build a main naval base and combat command in Natuna, Indonesia’s outlying islands bordering China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, and Singapore.

The presence of the naval base and combat command will increase defense and security in the disputed Natuna waters in the South China Sea, Baharuddin said.

In addition, the presence of the naval base and combat command will curb rampant illegal fishing in Natuna waters, he added.

Above all, investors will feel secure and find it convenient to invest in Natuna, if defense and security in the area is strengthened, he said.

“Natuna is rich in natural resources and has beautiful scenery. I believe many investors will be interested in investing there,” he remarked.


Related news: Indonesian Navy seizes Vietnamese vessel for poaching in North Natuna
Related news: Two foreign fishing vessels detained for poaching in Natuna waters
Related news: Indonesian Navy, Air Force conduct exercise near Malaysia border area

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Editor: Sri Haryati

Indonesia to build naval base, combat command in Natuna

The National Defense Forces (TNI) will build a main naval base and combat command in Natuna district, Riau Islands province next year, Riau Islands acting ...

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Deep down, Jakarta is our very de facto Capital city and the largest economy center not only in Indonesia but in ASEAN, thus the least is they (Naval Command) must do is to keep some proportional and respected Naval fleet forces left to defend Jakarta bay at vincinity