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eurasian steppe peoples always support each other against Russians imperialism but not much of support from arab countries eh ?

for those of you who had short memories

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mahmoud abbas leader of palestinians and palastinians

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Not a single Arab leader has ever uttered words of support for the Uighurs. The leaders of Saudi Arabia are actively leaning towards China and Russia, and have made peace with Iran through the mediation of China.
Most likely, Arab countries will extradite fugitive Uighurs to Chinese justice for the sake of economic interests, just like Kazakhstan under the rule of the previous president Nazarbayev.
 

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Why would turkey need to disrupt the Iranian nuclear program ?? Could it be turkey are not capable developing it on their own ??
Because literally nothing good can come out of proliferation in middle east and Iranians can't be trusted with nukes?
 

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Keeping the status quo is what I'm advocating for. All I'm saying is that in a hypothetical situation where Israel gets wiped off the map Türkiye would need to actively distrupt Iranian nuclear ambitions. No one else will do it.

There is no such option to wipe Israel off the map... without them wiping all their enemies off the map too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Best thing Turkey can do is to just stay neutral and not get directly involved into the Middle Eastern mess. All of the sides that are taking part of the conflicts there (Arabs, Israelis, Iranians, The West, Russia) have been our enemies and can't be ever trusted so better just leave them all to fight it out. Following the same strategy as in Ukraine is the best way to follow.

The cherry on the top must be to develop your infrastructure and economy, to build up your military capabilities and protecting your borders but we know what the realities in Turkey are after being run by incompetent people for decades: A stagnant economy, corruption in all institutions and the whole country being turned into a huge refugee camp for the trash of the Middle East.
 

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Why would turkey need to disrupt the Iranian nuclear program ?? Could it be turkey are not capable developing it on their own ??
Seriously , after seeing so much blatant disregard power playing from a nuclear power ... Let just profilirated it and spread it around ... It wouldn't be a deterrent when everybody has it ...

That's like letting your enemy who's intent is to kill you, walk over and grab a gun so you can duel instead of shooting him while his unnamed. Being a gentleman in this situation is just silly
 

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There is no such option to wipe Israel off the map... without them wiping all their enemies off the map too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Best thing Turkey can do is to just stay neutral and not get directly involved into the Middle Eastern mess. All of the sides that are taking part of the conflicts there (Arabs, Israelis, Iranians, The West, Russia) have been our enemies and can't be ever trusted so better just leave them all to fight it out. Following the same strategy as in Ukraine is the best way to follow.

The cherry on the top must be to develop your infrastructure and economy, to build up your military capabilities and protecting your borders but we know what the realities in Turkey are...
Yes exactly.

Neutrality is key. Our government has traditionally lost at the table by always siding with the losing side. Luckily this is changing.

Good that Davutoglu is gone.

This situation is actually good for us, we will have more bargaining chips after this.

But the truth is eventually we will need to confront Iran. I have no doubt that Iran would have been the main topic of Erdogan and Bibi's meetings. Remember that there are 30 million Turks in Iran and they are the gate to Central Asia. We can't just ignore them as they grow more powerful.
 

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On the very first day, Israeli television blamed Iran for everything. They immediately said that Iran declared war on Israel.


Since drug trafficking went through Karabakh, from which the IRGC benefited, as reported by Azerbaijani military expert Agil Rustamzade, then anything can happen.
 

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Despite the system being inducted in 2011, some of the Israeli Markava IV still does not have Trophy APS yet. It is gonna be a serious problem if Hamas is possessing capable ATGMs this time. @Gary
 

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Keeping the status quo is what I'm advocating for. All I'm saying is that in a hypothetical situation where Israel gets wiped off the map Türkiye would need to actively distrupt Iranian nuclear ambitions. No one else will do it.

Because literally nothing good can come out of proliferation in middle east and Iranians can't be trusted with nukes?
Then built your own nuke.
 

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ATGM ? lmao, I'm banking on drone dropped grenade

Those can only disable the tank, does not penetrate the armour. Besides i am expecting heavy jamming to neutralise the fpv drones. However, given the proximity of forces, it would be harder to use EA as it would disrupt IDF's own communication. I guess we just have to wait and sea. But I think Hamas may have got some ATGM this time. Because they were planning it for quite a long time and knew what is gonna be the consequences.
 

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There is no such option to wipe Israel off the map... without them wiping all their enemies off the map too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Best thing Turkey can do is to just stay neutral and not get directly involved into the Middle Eastern mess. All of the sides that are taking part of the conflicts there (Arabs, Israelis, Iranians, The West, Russia) have been our enemies and can't be ever trusted so better just leave them all to fight it out. Following the same strategy as in Ukraine is the best way to follow.

The cherry on the top must be to develop your infrastructure and economy, to build up your military capabilities and protecting your borders but we know what the realities in Turkey are after being run by incompetent people for decades: A stagnant economy, corruption in all institutions and the whole country being turned into a huge refugee camp for the trash of the Middle East.

If we thought like the British we would see countless opportunities in all these guys killing each other.
 

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Because literally nothing good can come out of proliferation in middle east and Iranians can't be trusted with nukes?
Said who ?? US ?? Israel ?? China ?? Who we are to judge other ? Are we a world's sanctioned policeman ?? Mandated by the whole UN members ??
What a naivettes ...
That's like letting your enemy who's intent is to kill you, walk over and grab a gun so you can duel instead of shooting him while his unnamed. Being a gentleman in this situation is just silly
Pray and tell me then ....on what ground we could halt other nation technological advancement ? What's come next after this technological ban ....denied them a 5G networks out of fear for their spreading lacklustre AI ... ?? Think hard and take a breath before you answer this .... On what ground ?? Beside the state sponsored terorism narratives that US and Co keep pedling it 24/7 on fox and alikes . Before WMD i might buying that reason ...after Iraq 2.0 ?? I might dumb ...but i am not that guilible ...
 

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The embodiment of irrational thinking 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


Abu Hamza, Spokesperson of the Jerusalem Brigades:

"There is no one among our troops who performs qada prayers. We do not allow those who perform qada prayers to fight against the occupation. Hopefully, we will soon start praying with the congregation in Masjid al-Aqsa."

 

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Those can only disable the tank, does not penetrate the armour. Besides i am expecting heavy jamming to neutralise the fpv drones. However, given the proximity of forces, it would be harder to use EA as it would disrupt IDF's own communication. I guess we just have to wait and sea. But I think Hamas may have got some ATGM this time. Because they were planning it for quite a long time and knew what is gonna be the consequences.
Palestinian groups does have nice collection ATGM/RPG...stolen from SturgeonHouse

MATADOR and M72

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HAMAS ATGM team with Bulsae-2 and RPG-29
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Palestinian groups does have nice collection ATGM/RPG...stolen from SturgeonHouse

MATADOR and M72

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HAMAS ATGM team with Bulsae-2 and RPG-29
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This time I am expecting to see a fight! Like an actual fight.
 

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⚡️The Israeli army reported that it recorded the penetration of a suspicious group into the country from Lebanon.
 

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They‘ll die like shithouse flies. Israel hasn‘t started yet. Gaza will be pulverized and the ongoing air strikes are only an appetizer. Main course is coming …



If this turns into another landgrab opportunity for Isreal, I'm willing to bet that Isreal allowed the attack to occur. Because nothing like Hamas executing festival goers to justify another obliteration of Palestinians.
 
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