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Yes it's not meaningful to expect people to fly 44 hours without sleep, toilet and food surprisingly. Wouldn't wanna be in the place of U2 spy plane pilots though


They did get something to eat, but as tube food like the astronauts.
They probably wore diapers to go to the toilet, but it certainly wasn't cool 😂.
 

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Changes continue. After Gürcan Okumuş, now head of BMC Murat Yalçıntaş resigns.

Is he the one that spinned BMC around after the disasters
 

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They are talking about humanoid robots. Another field some startups can go unicorn.
 

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Great Service from TUBITAK to Our Researchers!

MareNostrum 5, one of the world's most advanced supercomputers in which Turkey is a partner, was inaugurated on 21 December 2023 with the participation of Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez. MareNostrum 5, which is equivalent to the total capacity of approximately 380,000 laptops in the medium and high segment at the Barcelona Supercomputer Centre (BSC-CNS), has a total performance of 314 petaflops, that is, the processing power in 1 second is very high.

Ranked 8th in the world

Under the EuroHPC Joint Initiative, of which Turkey has been a member since 2019, consisting of the European Union, European countries and other partners, different countries have established consortiums and made major investments to have the strongest supercomputing infrastructures and ecosystem in Europe. MareNostrum 5, a supercomputer established as part of EuroHPC at the Barcelona Supercomputer Centre in Spain, is operated by a consortium of Spain, Turkey and Portugal and has achieved great success by ranking 8th in the world in the Top 500 ranking in November.

Enabling new scientific breakthroughs

MareNostrum 5 will provide access to state-of-the-art HPC (High Performance Computing) infrastructure and services to the scientists and industry of the member countries with a general purpose computing cluster as well as a graphics processor supported accelerator cluster.

MareNostrum 5 is a supercomputer with capabilities that will enable new scientific breakthroughs in studies such as drug and vaccine development, virus spread simulations, artificial intelligence and big data applications, as well as global problems such as climate change and renewable energy.

Turkey has been a member of the EuroHPC Joint Venture since 2019

TUBITAK ULAKBIM represents Turkey in MareNostrum 5 consortium under the leadership of the Ministry of Industry and Technology.

Turkey joined the EuroHPC Joint Venture on 2 April 2019 as the 28th member country. Following Turkey's participation in the initiative, a joint proposal was submitted by Turkey, Spain and Portugal to the "Precursors to Exascale" call and this proposal was accepted at the board of directors meeting held in Luxembourg on 4-5 June 2019.

With the accepted proposal, Turkey gained direct access to one of the world's leading supercomputers in addition to the TRUBA supercomputer service that has been provided by TÜBİTAK ULAKBİM for twenty years. The system is expected to be open for general use in February 2024

TUBITAK Vice President İsmail Doğan and TUBITAK ULAKBIM Director Mehmet Mirat Satoğlu attended the opening ceremony of MareNostrum 5 on behalf of Turkey.

For a few million euros, you can build your own supercomputer, e.g. in the form of several thousand GeForce 4090 graphics cards, even with the retail graphics card versions.
The Chinese do this all the time, despite sanctions, and the Americans are totally annoyed by it. It's a shame that TAI, TÜBITAK & Co. don't have the foresight to become active in this area themselves.
Especially in the simulations of material strength, heat resistance etc., a lot could be outsourced to supercomputers in order to obtain an improved formula.
The calculation of aerodynamics and changes in flight behavior at different altitudes, wind and weather in the aircraft could also be further improved by running hundreds of simulations in parallel.
The industry has even gone so far as to use AI software to check software for errors in order to detect sources of error in the program code, especially in AVIONICS and in target/board computers of fighter aircraft, tanks, submarines and ships, it makes sense to improve these further.
The possibilities of using simulations to work on certain tasks in advance, before a prototype is produced for physical testing, are endless.
I think it is a shame that Turkey does not see a need for action in supercomputers and is dependent on other countries. Especially in military and space technology, everything should be done to ensure that these calculations, if any, are not done on supercomputers outside Turkey but locally.
 
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TAI does use some Nvidia solution, but yeah we are embargoed for workstation products which are often required for compatibility with the kind of software you would use for simulations etc.
 

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They are talking about humanoid robots. Another field some startups can go unicorn.
We are too dependent on the government and state-owned enterprises. We need large enterprises like Samsung or Sony to support our development.
For a few million euros, you can build your own supercomputer, e.g. in the form of several thousand GeForce 4090 graphics cards, even with the retail graphics card versions.
The Chinese do this all the time, despite sanctions, and the Americans are totally annoyed by it. It's a shame that TAI, TÜBITAK & Co. don't have the foresight to become active in this area themselves.
Especially in the simulations of material strength, heat resistance etc., a lot could be outsourced to supercomputers in order to obtain an improved formula.
The calculation of aerodynamics and changes in flight behavior at different altitudes, wind and weather in the aircraft could also be further improved by running hundreds of simulations in parallel.
The industry has even gone so far as to use AI software to check software for errors in order to detect sources of error in the program code, especially in AVIONICS and in target/board computers of fighter aircraft, tanks, submarines and ships, it makes sense to improve these further.
The possibilities of using simulations to work on certain tasks in advance, before a prototype is produced for physical testing, are endless.
I think it is a shame that Turkey does not see a need for action in supercomputers and is dependent on other countries. Especially in military and space technology, everything should be done to ensure that these calculations, if any, are not done on supercomputers outside Turkey but locally.
 

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Finland - Lumi 2,752,704 cores
Italy - Leonardo 1,824,768 cores

10 and 50 thousand cores is a funny number for a country like Turkiye. We should exceed 1 million cores.

Mashallah, the foresight and planning of our rulers is impeccable. I guess they are waiting for the embargo for that.

Meanwhile, the Director of the Ankara Zoo was appointed as Deputy Director of ULAKBIM, an important unit of TÜBİTAK. I wonder what happened to him, with all the resignations and dismissals.
 

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The EuroHPC JU is a legal and funding entity created in 2018 to enable the European Union and EuroHPC participating countries to coordinate their efforts and pool their resources with the objective of making Europe a world leader in supercomputing. The mission of the EuroHPC JU is:

  • to develop, deploy, extend and maintain in the EU a federated, secure hyperconnected supercomputing, quantum computing, service and data infrastructure ecosystem;
  • to support the development and uptake of demand-oriented and user-driven innovative and competitive supercomputing and quantum computing systems based on a supply chain that will ensure the availability of components, technologies and knowledge;
  • and, to widen the use of that supercomputing and quantum computing infrastructure to a large number of public and private users.
To date the EuroHPC JU has already procured eight supercomputers, located across Europe: LUMI in Finland, LEONARDO in Italy, Vega in Slovenia, MeluXina in Luxembourg, Discoverer in Bulgaria, Karolina in the Czechia, MareNostrum5 in Spain, and Deucalion in Portugal.
I am only talking about Turkiye, not partnerships. I think this is the way it should be according to our growing population and our technological and military development.

Am I wrong?
 

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Finland - Lumi 2,752,704 cores
Italy - Leonardo 1,824,768 cores

10 and 50 thousand cores is a funny number for a country like Turkiye. We should exceed 1 million cores.

Mashallah, the foresight and planning of our rulers is impeccable. I guess they are waiting for the embargo for that.

Meanwhile, the Director of the Ankara Zoo was appointed as Deputy Director of ULAKBIM, an important unit of TÜBİTAK. I wonder what happened to him, with all the resignations and dismissals.
Compared to the other countries, this is very poor, our super computers don't have to be in the top twenty supercomputers in the world, but 250000-30000 CPU cores Intel/AMD would be very realistic targets for TÜBITAK, TAI and Baykar.
If these could be networked with each other, you would have almost a million, something really decent for carrying out research, analyses and simulations.
 

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You can see how mendacious Europe is, and this is not due to the democratic deficits that Turkey is accused of.
It's because you simply don't dance to their tune.

Backbone has really become a foreign word today.
 
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The french 'Le Monde' see the french defence Industry Threaten't by Turkey's Advancements
What!?
french keep talking and they still talking that Turkiye is not able to produce anything without west.
Even more french keep saying that they gave to Turkiye parts that will be assembled as military product.

I mean french are biased no matter what. If they see Turkiye military product they automatically think that this is not possible to be build by Turks, it must be given by West. End of story
 

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What!?
french keep talking and they still talking that Turkiye is not able to produce anything without west.
Even more french keep saying that they gave to Turkiye parts that will be assembled as military product.

I mean french are biased no matter what. If they see Turkiye military product they automatically think that this is not possible to be build by Turks, it must be given by West. End of story
And how is that supposed to happen? Nobody supplies us anymore, neither the EU nor the USA, except for total exceptions such as the GE F110 129 engine, and here too it is written in the stars whether we will be allowed to use it and build it under license 😂.
They must really be suffering from a blatant persecution complex.
 

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Reading translated news is always gamble. Reading translated opinion pieces without any context on twitter surely will lead you astray. I'm begging people, please always take these with few kilos of salt and always chase the actual piece. I'm trying to be lenient to Oğuzhan here, but it's hard to do. If you read the twitter version, you will think it's about the honhon Frenchies hating on the Turks. If you read the actual version, it's a simple overlay of the French MIC, future competitors and what could be done to alleviate the issues and there might be lessons in there for Turkish MIC to learn from as well.

Full piece. Translated to English with DeepL and underlined the parts I deem interesting.:
Defense: French industry threatened by new competitors
South Korea, Turkey and Israel are formidable competitors for the French military-industrial complex, which has some weaknesses despite its strengths and its rank as the world's third largest arms exporter.
By Jean-Michel Bezat Published yesterday at 4:17 p.m., modified at 12:44 a.m.
Reading Time 4 min.
France proudly displays the success of what is commonly called the defense industrial and technological base (BITD): 4,000 companies working for the armed forces, 450 of which are considered strategic and 600 export in the wake of the giants Airbus, Dassault Aviation, Nexter, Naval Group, MBDA, Thales or Safran.
Born in the 1960s from the Gaullist ambition for independence, it produces almost all military equipment, preventing land, naval and air forces from having to buy it “off the shelf” from the Americans and other Europeans.
This ambition has a weakness, inherent to France's status as a middle power: its armies offering a limited outlet, the BITD must export to survive.
And the Rafale weighs heavily with its Safran engines, its Thales electronics and its MBDA missiles: in 2022, the eighty Dassault combat aircraft sold to the United Arab Emirates represented two thirds of the 27 billion euros in exports from the country in this market, bringing it to third place in the world in 2022, behind the United States and Russia. Read also: Article reserved for our subscribers “The sale of Rafale to Saudi Arabia would be a success by default for the tricolor aircraft in the ruthless competition from arms dealers”
France is single-product. Without the Rafale, it would be marginalized,” notes Marc Chassillan, arms engineer and defense consultant. In decline in Europe, it is also increasingly dependent on countries in the Middle East. It struggles to sell frigates and submarines in a very competitive market. Its manufacturers have abandoned infantry equipment and no longer produce Leclerc tanks, an export failure. The Jaguar and Griffon armored vehicles, designed more for asymmetric conflicts (Afghanistan, Sahel, etc.), have only found a buyer in Belgium thanks to close military cooperation between Paris and Brussels. Although the Caesar cannon is in high demand, Nexter cannot meet all requests.


A “plethoric offer”
In land weapons, “the global supply has become plethoric,” recalls Mr. Chassillan. Second-tier exporters are pointing the end of the barrel (United Arab Emirates, Brazil, South Africa, Egypt, etc.), but the historic heavyweights of the defense market are worried about more formidable competitors: South Korea, Turkey and Israel. “[These players] benefit from an upgrade of their products and uninhibited export control,” underlines the government’s 2023 report to Parliament on arms exports, while “intra-European competition does not weaken ". Read also: Article reserved for our subscribers The Caesar cannons, showcase of the war economy
When Poland ordered 1,000 K2 tanks, 500 K9 howitzers, hundreds of missiles and fifty FA-50 planes from South Korea in 2022, the industrialists of the Old Continent were surprised, without being able to respond. Neither the German Krauss-Maffei Wegmann nor the American General Dynamics were capable of delivering so many tanks, Leopard 2 and Abrams respectively. No more than Nexter Caesar or Airbus dozens of Eurofighter planes. In a Europe which had ruled out the scenario of a high-intensity conflict for thirty years, industrial resources have atrophied.
South Korean industrialist Hanwha recalls that his country has been “ready for war” since the 1953 armistice with North Korea, seventy years of the Cold War when it was able to develop an arms industry. in the service of his conscription army, before setting out to conquer foreign markets with powerful state support. Seoul supplies equipment meeting NATO standards at competitive prices.

When you can have two K2s for the price of a Leopard 2, the choice is quickly made, summarizes Mr. Chassillan. In 31st place among exporters in 2000, South Korea occupied 9th in 2022, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, and it is aiming for 4th in 2027. Read also: Article reserved for our Defense subscribers: “order books full, but arms sales which did not follow in 2022 »
This export ambition is shared by Turkey [12th world exporter in 2022], notes Léo Péria-Peigné, researcher at the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI), who is preparing a book on the geopolitics of armaments. The constitution of a BITD is a strategic sovereignty issue for Ankara too. The country also produces a lot for its mass army. Export guarantees him profitability, and he also wants to bite into the European market, like South Korea. »


An “exceptional contract raid”
Israel and its high-tech BITD also benefit from global rearmament. “It made an exceptional raid of contracts in 2023 and will gain several places in the world ranking”, of which it occupied 10th place in 2022, calculates Mr. Chassillan.
The Hebrew State notably sells its 155 mm Atmos howitzer, remotely operated turrets, anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft systems (sold to equip the German “shield”) or active protection of armored vehicles.
France retains its strong points: missiles, observation satellites, etc. Thales, which has just been strengthened by the acquisition of the American Imperva, remains a reference in cyber activities, and especially radars. The new entrants have also not reached the level of the Americans and Europeans in the motorization of combat aircraft. But France is lagging enormously behind in drones, in which Dassault and the general staff have long lost interest, while Turkey offers a complete range. Also read the interview: Article reserved for our subscribers François Lecointre, former chief of staff of the armed forces: “Naively, our societies thought that war was now archaic”
The general armaments delegation of the Ministry of the Armed Forces also admits that France has missed the “offset”, these compensations in local production and technology transfers. It has long favored employment on the national territory and has been reluctant to transfer knowledge to foreign clients, even though these concessions had become a necessary step to land large contracts.
Warsaw saw in the agreement with Seoul “the culmination of cooperation built over many years” by two countries worried about a withdrawal of the American protective umbrella. “It’s a win-win operation,” underlines Renaud Bellais, co-director of the Defense Observatory of the Jean Jaurès Foundation. Poland wants fast deliveries and local production; South Korea can draw on its enormous arms stocks and internationalize its industry. »


Delivery schedule
France has been evolving its doctrine for several years. Like the Americans' Foreign Military Sales, "a new logic of state-to-state strategic partnership is being put in place", with military, diplomatic and economic dimensions. , underlines Mr. Péria-Peigné, citing Greece, India and the United Arab Emirates. It must make it possible to structure a long-term offer to sell several types of weapons to the same country (planes, helicopters, frigates, satellites, etc.), while remaining at the cutting edge of technology. “France will remain in the lead with a new range of equipment,” judges the IFRI researcher. Also read the report: Article reserved for our subscribers With its new drone school, the army wants to increase the number of operators within the regiments
The Russo-Ukrainian war brought to light a new, increasingly strong constraint: the delivery schedule and the availability of materials. “They tend to become central criteria” in the negotiation of contracts, repeats the Minister of the Armed Forces, Sébastien Lecornu, to manufacturers.
Because the risk of marginalization is real. Of the 100 billion euros of arms purchases from European Union countries concluded between the start of the conflict in Ukraine and the summer of 2023, 78% were made to non-European manufacturers, with the Americans scooping them up. 63%, calculated Jean-Pierre Maulny, deputy director of the Institute of International and Strategic Relations; of the 22% remaining to the Europeans, Paris only won 12%, or 2.5 billion euros.
Jean-Michel Bezat
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And how is that supposed to happen? Nobody supplies us anymore, neither the EU nor the USA, except for total exceptions such as the GE F110 129 engine, and here too it is written in the stars whether we will be allowed to use it and build it under license 😂.
They must really be suffering from a blatant persecution complex.
"how is that supposed to happen?"
That is the main thing which Turkiye responsible people and strategics are doing.
Finding solution with any available opportunity out there.
Finding solution by consulting with own military companies, create plan and build it own.
etc.
It is hard work, taking time and it is better solution than "wet dreams" and believe on allies
 

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"how is that supposed to happen?"
That is the main thing which Turkiye responsible people and strategics are doing.
Finding solution with any available opportunity out there.
Finding solution by consulting with own military companies, create plan and build it own.
etc.
It is hard work, taking time and it is better solution than "wet dreams" and believe on allies
You have misunderstood something, it was about what the French mean or think.
That Turkey's current weapons technology is produced with the help of the EU and the USA.
Which is totally wrong, otherwise they would have access to almost all goods, at the moment they have almost no access.

As you have noticed from the previous poster, the Twitter post was probably very lurid and mistranslated, whether deliberately or accidentally everyone should decide for themselves.

But let's still assume that what the French claim is true, it would still be wrong, nobody supplies us with military technology anymore, let it be highly sensitive components or weapons technology as a package.
 

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Let's pedal back slowly to reality please. France's defence industry being "threatened" by Turkish defence industry is a little distorted information IMO.
The threat that is mentioned is not due to technological advances Türkiye has gained so rapidly, well maybe partly, but it is in fact due to the African market which is starting to distance itself from French influence including defence purchases.
Their alternatives are mainly China and Türkiye, the latter being more "western" and probably more sophisticated when it comes to drones.
Let's not forget that Dassault is one of the most successful aircraft producers in the world, apaer from their missile tech, armoured vehicles, engine tech etc.
But Turkish defence products have gained popularity lately in many battlefields which have naturally attracted many potential costumers. And since the price tag is usually a fifth or less with their French equivalents, then countries with limited budgets opt for the pest option economically and sometimes politically.

This is probably causing a dent in the sales for France's defence industry products, but let's not get carried away just yet. We're still not near anything France had already achieved decades ago, especially in aviation matters.
 

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Let's pedal back slowly to reality please. France's defence industry being "threatened" by Turkish defence industry is a little distorted information IMO.
The threat that is mentioned is not due to technological advances Türkiye has gained so rapidly, well maybe partly, but it is in fact due to the African market which is starting to distance itself from French influence including defence purchases.
Their alternatives are mainly China and Türkiye, the latter being more "western" and probably more sophisticated when it comes to drones.
Let's not forget that Dassault is one of the most successful aircraft producers in the world, apaer from their missile tech, armoured vehicles, engine tech etc.
But Turkish defence products have gained popularity lately in many battlefields which have naturally attracted many potential costumers. And since the price tag is usually a fifth or less with their French equivalents, then countries with limited budgets opt for the pest option economically and sometimes politically.

This is probably causing a dent in the sales for France's defence industry products, but let's not get carried away just yet. We're still not near anything France had already achieved decades ago, especially in aviation matters.
Absolutely right and that is also the core of the conflict between France and Turkey.
France is afraid of losing its interests in Africa, but this has less to do with Turkey and its allegedly aggressive behavior in the new markets in Africa.
Rather, France has gambled away a lot in Africa; as an ex-colonial power, it has a difficult position in Africa, and this is largely its own fault.
France should also take a good look at itself and engage in self-reflection.
 
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