TR Navy Naval Programs

[AlterUnd]

apparently ex director ASFAT is lying.

"Preliminary design has almost been completed, contract design phase is duty of ASFAT". December 4, preliminary design is "almost" to be completed, contract design is "almost" to be commenced, and laying keel in Q4 2023? Have they invented time machine.

That was for our best that Esad is gone, i loved new guy he has a great vibe and fluent english and understands technical matters to a great extend.
"Almost", lol been going on for a year or so "almost".
We will almost commission first TF2000 in 2031, little bit of "almost" we need here.
Over and out.

 

[Anmdt]

That was for our best that Esad is gone, i loved new guy he has a great vibe and fluent english and understands technical matters to a great extend.
"Almost", lol been going on for a year or so "almost".
We will almost commission first TF2000 in 2031, little bit of "almost" we need here.
Over and out.

Wait, do tell us about I+, TF2000's second batch and TTBH!

 

[AlterUnd]

Wait, do tell us about I+, TF2000's second batch and TTBH!

That will cost you some bucks.

 

[Saithan]

Wow, nice input and thanks for sharing some information. Really do appreciate the input our pro's are sharing.

Could we perhaps do it without the belittling too. The world is not black and white and I'm certain that defense industry is even more complicated with who does what and where the lines are drawn and who can lay claim to job well done.

Just saying "leave room to wiggle".

 

[Anmdt]

Wow, nice input and thanks for sharing some information. Really do appreciate the input our pro's are sharing.

Could we perhaps do it without the belittling too. The world is not black and white and I'm certain that defense industry is even more complicated with who does what and where the lines are drawn and who can lay claim to job well done.

Just saying "leave room to wiggle".

It is what it is, Armerkom & DPO have been the locomotive and brain of all the projects, while pulling others along the way. Some had tried to be a locomotive and have their own tracks, but in the end they stayed on the same tracks.

 

[dBSPL]

Tomorrow is a historic day for the Turkish navy. A flare, and actually the opening ceremony of the next 20-year period.

TCG İstanbul, TCG Derya, TCG Arif Ekmekçi and Marlin USVs will be taken into active inventory.

TCG Istanbul is in every sense a manifestation of Turkish shipbuilding, national defense industry and high technological system development capacity. It represents the beginning of the new era of the navy with its national radar and EW suites, C4 systems, national countermeasures and underwater / surface and air warfare equipment for the blue seas.

TCG Derya will be among the strategic naval assets that will take power projection capability to the next level and support our task forces and also joint task forces that will operate in the world seas.

And the era of unmanned autonomous naval vehicles in the Navy is opening with MARLIN systems. The acceptance of ULAQ, SANCAR and other USVs is also expected to be completed this year.

 

[Saithan]

Those are great news. But I am still wondering why TCG isn't being utilized more. If we attach marine biolife institution cooperation with TCG and expanded their operational field we'd establish a presence in Mavi Vatan that others can't dismiss. We'd ensure no overfishing in our waters and that in itself would be a message internally and externally.

 

[Tornadoss]

Is I-Class already equipped with AD missiles? I forgot the names there are so many naming.

 

[UkroTurk]

Is I-Class already equipped with AD missiles? I forgot the names there are so many naming.

Currently No. They will test the missile and MIDLAS soon

 

[Tornadoss]

Currently No. They will test the missile and MIDLAS soon

Shouldn't these tests be conducted before the ship to enter inventory?

 

[Sanchez]

Shouldn't these tests be conducted before the ship to enter inventory?

Not necessarily, Ship and the VLS probably have different testing schedules. But 14 months have passed since the first MIDLAS test and it is yet to be test fired on a ship, so we can assume Istanbul won't be a fully combat ready ship for a long while.

 

[Sanchez]

1st replacement, so far. OPVs are equipped by another product, developed locally. (Sonitus & HeliPlat).

It gets even more interesting.
"STM signed a supply contract with Altınay for ASIST's indigenous version. Project started under the main contractorship of Altinay. The news about subcontractors such as Sonitus (which developed and delivered the rail unit) caused confusion. Ultimately, acceptance was completed under the main contractorship of Altınay."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1747926763189981323

 

[BalkanTurk90]

So I class is defenceless without missiles? Are u sure?
They could easy install some Hisar Missiles

 

[Afif]

So I class is defenceless without missiles? Are u sure?
They could easy install some Hisar Missiles

Yeah, that is exactly what they are trying to do. It takes time.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Yeah, that is exactly what they are trying to do. It takes time.

What time? Did they test midlas and misile 1 years ago ? Just put that missile in midlas and its ok until Siper b1 is ready . I thought Hisar is ready but not siper . Now both of them are not ready . I am upset

 

[Anmdt]

It gets even more interesting.
"STM signed a supply contract with Altınay for ASIST's indigenous version. Project started under the main contractorship of Altinay. The news about subcontractors such as Sonitus (which developed and delivered the rail unit) caused confusion. Ultimately, acceptance was completed under the main contractorship of Altınay."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1747926763189981323

I may have mentioned it somewhere in this thread, but there are two distinct projects being run by ASFAT and SSB.

 

[UkroTurk]

Shouldn't these tests be conducted before the ship to enter inventory?

Ground tests could have been conducted. But need to test integration with the radar in real conditions.
Watch this videos if you have free time.
They explained very well.

Air Defence Programs

Well sounds like they’ve created an independant little AD layered system that can be deployed quick. Which situations would it be ideal ? loitering ammo, ucav, in forward positions ?

defencehub.live

 

[Anmdt]

The news about subcontractors such as Sonitus (which developed and delivered the rail unit) caused confusion

This is a separate project run by ASFAT (Contracted to group of companies and i only know of Sonitus), STM&Altınay's project is altogether different.

 

[UkroTurk]

Good news from SSB about SAPAN Air Defense Missile

Making a speech at the ceremony, Defense Industry President Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün announced that the SAPAN Air Defense Missile will soon enter the inventory. SAPAN was developed by Roketsan based on the HİSAR-RF Air Defense Missile used in the HİSAR-O+ Air Defense System. The SAPAN Missile, which will be fired from the National Vertical Launch Launcher System (MIDLAS) integrated into the TCG İSTANBUL Frigate (F-515), has also been made suitable for naval combat conditions.

SSB'den SAPAN Hava Savunma Füzesi müjdesi | SavunmaSanayiST

SAPAN Hava Savunma Füzesi, Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri envanterine girmeye gün sayıyor. Gelişmeyi, Savunma Sanayii Başkanı Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün duyurdu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Sanchez]

This is a separate project run by ASFAT (Contracted to group of companies and i only know of Sonitus), STM&Altınay's project is altogether different.

In that case if the tweet I quoted is correct, Sonitus is both leading its own project and is also a subcontractor for Altınay.