TR Navy Naval Programs

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725844769589395860

First time we see a Seahawk on TCG Istanbul?

Haven't still solved the problem of not enough ASW Helicopters too.

 

[Saithan]

https://x.com/gdhdefence/status/1726150561542848777?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

Just felt the need to share this, counting down the days…

 

[UkroTurk]

https://x.com/gdhdefence/status/1726150561542848777?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

Just felt the need to share this, counting down the days…

Two radars were rotating coherently. 360degree covering , no gap.

 

[Quasar]

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Egypt will pay 260 million euros for maintenance and integrated Logistic Support services for their 2 FREMM class frigates in a 10-year agreement.


Do we know the cost regarding maintenance and other related services of the I-Class or Ada-class?

 

[Sanchez]

Altınay's ASIST replacement is dubbed the Kuşkapanı/Birdtrap. I like it.
Its acceptance tests were completed aboard TCG Istanbul.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728707993607295351

 

[Oublious]

Egypt will pay 260 million euros for maintenance and integrated Logistic Support services for their 2 FREMM class frigates in a 10-year agreement.


Do we know the cost regarding maintenance and other related services of the I-Class or Ada-class?

rip off, not only that but they have the monkey models to.

 

[Ripley]

Since this is a first time LIDAR is used on the ship instead of laser beacon on the heli, i am wondering how good the system is in adverse weather where the air is literally filled in with thousands of water particle causing wrong detection. Maybe they have a paper published like some aselsan products?

It says acceptance tests completed and this test demonstrated the system aligning and ‘arresting’ the heli. So, like you said, there must be some arresting test in adverse conditions down the road, I presume.

 

[infrared]

It says acceptance tests completed and this test demonstrated the system aligning and ‘arresting’ the heli. So, like you said, there must be some arresting test in adverse conditions down the road, I presume.

Thanks. It seems there is no lidar. I was fooled by a twitter account that spread lies for clicks.

STM - STM Ambargoya Karşı Yerli Sistemle Cevap Verdi

STM, ambargolara karşı geliştirdiği yerli sistemle savunma sanayiine bağımsızlık kazandırıyor. Haberin detaylarını incelemek için tıklayınız.

www.stm.com.tr

It is classic laser beacon on the heli system.

 

[Saithan]

How was the helicopter performance ? I got a shlightly shaky expression. I sqw someone on twitter mention it was a female pilot that landed it.

 

[Anmdt]

Egypt will pay 260 million euros for maintenance and integrated Logistic Support services for their 2 FREMM class frigates in a 10-year agreement.


Do we know the cost regarding maintenance and other related services of the I-Class or Ada-class?

13 million per year, if including maintance of electronics or anything aboard with spares is quite a reasonable or good price.
But i am doubt it, this price should be for dockings, surveys and not the materials spent for maintenance, or spare parts or man-hours spent by 3rd parties in repairs. These items are not foreseeable.

We wouldn't get such a price for Turkish ship anytime soon, the maintenance is carried out by Naval shipyards and spare part processes are managed by TN a nd ILS outsourced to STM in some cases. Pakistan's Milgem could be a reference if they disclose the agreement for maintanance and ILS.

 

[Anmdt]

Altınay's ASIST replacement is dubbed the Kuşkapanı/Birdtrap. I like it.
Its acceptance tests were completed aboard TCG Istanbul.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728707993607295351

1st replacement, so far. OPVs are equipped by another product, developed locally. (Sonitus & HeliPlat).

Since this is a first time LIDAR is used on the ship instead of laser beacon on the heli, i am wondering how good the system is in adverse weather where the air is literally filled in with thousands of water particle causing wrong detection. Maybe they have a paper published like some aselsan products?

That Lidar one has been proposed as an R&D project but use of Lidar is still boggling my mind. A laser beam provides sufficient information for a 1D moving arrest system, what Lidar would do apart from sensing 3D image of the platform is the arrest system is still moving in a similar manner.

 

[Sanchez]

1st replacement, so far. OPVs are equipped by another product, developed locally. (Sonitus & HeliPlat).


That Lidar one has been proposed as an R&D project but use of Lidar is still boggling my mind. A laser beam provides sufficient information for a 1D moving arrest system, what Lidar would do apart from sensing 3D image of the platform is the arrest system is still moving in a similar manner.

Only in Turkey you would see 2 local replacements for such a niche product. Good luck to both companies.

 

[infrared]

1st replacement, so far. OPVs are equipped by another product, developed locally. (Sonitus & HeliPlat).


That Lidar one has been proposed as an R&D project but use of Lidar is still boggling my mind. A laser beam provides sufficient information for a 1D moving arrest system, what Lidar would do apart from sensing 3D image of the platform is the arrest system is still moving in a similar manner.

Thanks, I have been wondering if Altinay and HeliPlat's systems are different.

For the Lidar, the advantage would be the elimination of helicopter modification to integrate the laser beacon.

 

[infrared]

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[Anmdt]

? - Berkin Engineering (Under development):

They are developing the sensing end of the project (has not proposed officially, yet), likely can be incorporated into STM's or HeliPlat's solution.

Kuskapani - STM & Altinay (Delivered on TCG Istanbul Istif-class frigate):
Up to sea state 4 (twitter.com/IsmailDemirSSB/status/1620004642087407616)

STM - STM Ambargoya Karşı Yerli Sistemle Cevap Verdi

STM, ambargolara karşı geliştirdiği yerli sistemle savunma sanayiine bağımsızlık kazandırıyor. Haberin detaylarını incelemek için tıklayınız.

www.stm.com.tr

Hayat S10 - Sonitus & HeliPlat (To be delivered on TCG Kochisar Hisar-class OPV):
Up to sea state 5
https://www.sonitus.com.tr/cozumler/tasima-ve-transfer-sistem-cozumleri/hayat-s10

I believe both of these will be (have been) certified up to Sea State 5.

For the Lidar, the advantage would be the elimination of helicopter modification to integrate the laser beacon.

You still need an integration on the helicopter, the pilot needs a low latency feedback on the aircraft's relative position-velocity w.r.t. the platform. A Lidar is more prone for equipment failures however, if they are intending to develop a 5-axis capable arm - arrest system then this would be interesting.

It is not just a brochure but Sonitus is actually giving a kick-start information on who wants to make their own helicopter landing-assist and traverse system.

https://sonitus.com.tr/storage/brochures/Sonitus-HAYAT%20S10-En.pdf

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Milgem+
124m
3600t displacement

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Milgem+ AS3600

 

[Sanchez]

Milgem+ new frigate
124m
3600t displacement

View attachment 63335

I was just coming here to post this too. Interesting layout on Milgem+. Bow mounted Levent? This indeed looks like an enlarged corvette or export.

Taken by Xavier Vavasseur.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729191103520518634

 

[Cabatli_TR]

I was just coming here to post this too. Interesting layout on Milgem+. Can probably carry 4x6 ASMs but not sure about the VLS.

Taken by Xavier Vavasseur.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729191103520518634

In mock-up, The ship include 64xVLS MIDLAS and 8xAtmaca missiles