Please not a rotating radar. At least X Band 4 AESA stationary plates + rotating L band.
Last but not least please two sided UMTAS launchers ( as anti USV)!!!!
Last but not least please two sided UMTAS launchers ( as anti USV)!!!!
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Or Alpagut once it is ready. Equal or heavier warhead with something like 8 times the range, with target tracking and swarm capability. It's going to be a game changer for us against armour or threats like USVs.Last but not least please two sided UMTAS launchers ( as anti USV)!!!!
I would prefer faster missiles against semi submersible USV as they are very hard to detect from long distance. X Band AESA plates detect, UMTAS kills.Or Alpagut once it is ready. Equal or heavier warhead with something like 8 times the range, with target tracking and swarm capability. It's going to be a game changer for us against armour or threats like USVs.
Any news on the other two ships? What about Sefine and Sedef shipyards?Anadolu Shipyard Lays Keel of Turkey's 2nd İ-Class Frigate TCG Izmir
On November 15, 2023, Turkey's Anadolu Shipyard (ADİK) laid the first block of TCG İzmir (F-516), the 2nd ship of the MİLGEM İ-Class Frigate Project.www.overtdefense.com
When multi-packed, Siper B1 will be quad-packed, not dual-packed.we achieve the packing siper b1 doublepack
I dont think so thi Siper B1 can be quadpackable with his huge diametered booster.When multi-packed, Siper B1 will be quad-packed, not dual-packed.
Told maybe a dozen times, the booster is for initial batches of Siper B1 and likely won't be present in Quadpackable / Naval variant of Siper B1 (will be replaced with a booster, slimmer and capable of TVC - by logic). First in queue is Hisar-N.I dont think so thi Siper B1 can be quadpackable with his huge diametered booster.
I dont see any official document about naval siper b1 will not be having a booster. If that stated before that. Sorry that's my fault.Told maybe a dozen times, the booster is for initial batches of Siper B1 and likely won't be present in Quadpackable / Naval variant of Siper B1 (will be replaced with a booster, slimmer and capable of TVC - by logic). First in queue is Hisar-N.
No, but booster of Çakır has also changed on-the-go without much official disclosure. It was seen in brochures/figures. I am purely using my logic to say that B1 will be quadpacked, as dual-packing with current booster costs way more than quad-packing attempt + slimmer TVC booster. We have a way to go with quad-packing and B1 is not the first missile to receive such an update. Until then it will be used within single cell if TN demands a Siper B1N variant.I dont see any official document about naval siper b1 will doesnt have booster. If that stated before that. Sorry that's my fault.
Gökdeniz has standalone mode (using it's own radar to scan/track), however this mode is also fed by main radar (upon detection and classification of the target). There were multiple images of Barbaros MLU which incorporated Phalanx, Gökdeniz (with AKR) and Gökdeniz (with MAR-D and AKR) in the forward position. The latest valid image is the latest. Based on logic i am speculating these;I have a question about Gökdeniz and MAR-D. In the Barbaros modernization we see a MAR-D on a small second mast, alongside Smart-S but while Gökdeniz is not yet installed in concept it's missing an independent radar. Assumption is that it will use the ships radar. On TCG Istanbul however Gökdeniz comes with the Mar-D. My question is will rest of the ships systems on Istanbul be able to use the radar on the gökdeniz or is it independent like Phalanx? Because on Barbaros it makes a lot of sense to have 2 different S band and X band radars for different purposes. Also, does anyone know the range and performance of MAR-D? Is it enough to guide something like Hisar alongside Cenk-S in case of multiple engagements?
(The radar on Gökdeniz is Mar-D right?)
Dear i also can not understand it. Brain damaging.I have a question about Gökdeniz and MAR-D. In the Barbaros modernization we see a MAR-D on a small second mast, alongside Smart-S but while Gökdeniz is not yet installed in concept it's missing an independent radar. Assumption is that it will use the ships radar. On TCG Istanbul however Gökdeniz comes with the Mar-D. My question is will rest of the ships systems on Istanbul be able to use the radar on the gökdeniz or is it independent like Phalanx? Because on Barbaros it makes a lot of sense to have 2 different S band and X band radars for different purposes. Also, does anyone know the range and performance of MAR-D? Is it enough to guide something like Hisar alongside Cenk-S in case of multiple engagements?
(The radar on Gökdeniz is Mar-D right?)
Technically there is not 3 but 2 since one is for Gökdeniz, and i believe it is about the level of digitalization of the radar elements. I believe we will see a fixed face AESA surfacing with or after ARDA-X. Upscaled ARDA will be part of CAFRAD anyway.Dear i also can not understand it. Brain damaging.
İnstead of Three rotating radar, they could use 4 stationary AESA plates.
Why shouldn't Gökdeniz use fixed face radars of the warship? Having an Autonomous CIWS is necessary? İf yes , i would put on Gökdeniz two fixed meteksans Retinar instead of rotating MAR-D since half turn of rotating radar is blind.Technically there is not 3 but 2 since one is for Gökdeniz, and i believe it is about the level of digitalization of the radar elements. I believe we will see a fixed face AESA surfacing with or after ARDA-X. Upscaled ARDA will be part of CAFRAD anyway.
Why shouldn't Gökdeniz use fixed face radars of the warship? Having an Autonomous CIWS is necessary? İf yes , i would put on Gökdeniz two fixed meteksans Retinar instead of rotating MAR-D since half turn of rotating radar is blind.
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İmagine GÜRZ CIWS have just two fixed AESA panel. Or just need to fix two radars from GÜRZ on Gökdeniz.
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I know there are 4. They are for 360degree real time coverage. But Gökdeniz at the back of the frigate so rear panels are useless.