TR Navy Naval Programs

[uçuyorum]

In mock-up, The ship include 64xVLS MIDLAS and 8xAtmaca missiles

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But tiny radar for whatever reason, it wasn't even Cenk S I think

 

[Ripley]

@Cabatli_TR
Where are these picture coming from?
Are these just released?
Is 3600 a continuation of MILGEM series or a standalone design?
If a stand-alone to accompany TF2000 why not a 4-5K tons design?

 

[Oublious]

Kozan Selcuk will be happy, I Class+...

 

[Cabatli_TR]

But tiny radar for whatever reason, it wasn't even Cenk S I think

I think this seems to be the only thing missing from mock-up. A frigate with a 64VLS should consist of a large AESA module generating the electronic beams at both S and X band frequency bands. Considering that some of these MIDLAS cells will also have Siper family missiles, long-range detection capability will gain importance in long range engagement...

 

[Cabatli_TR]

@Cabatli_TR
Where are these picture coming from?
Are these just released?
Is 3600 a continuation of MILGEM series or a standalone design?
If a stand-alone to accompany TF2000 why not a 4-5K tons design?

From IDEF2023. The photos were taken by Mr. Tayfun Özberk. Milgem+ AS3600 concept isn't new.

 

[uçuyorum]

I think this seems to be the only thing missing from mock-up. A frigate with a 64VLS should consist of a large AESA module generating the waves at both S and X band frequency bands. Considering that some of these MIDLAS cells will also have Siper family missiles, long-range detection capability will gain importance in long range engagement...

I would be fine with Barbaros modernization like approach, but really this needs an EIRS-D

 

[Cabatli_TR]

AS2300: Hisar class OPV
AS3000: Pakistani Milgem
AS3400: Pakistani Jinnah class frigate
AS3600: Milgem+

 

[Ripley]

From IDEF2023. The photos were taken by Mr. Tayfun Özberk. Milgem+ AS3600 concept isn't new.

Thank you. And I did some research myself and, no, that 3600 design is a conceptual work by ASFAT and not proposed to TN.
Probably for export.
If I didn‘t know Malaysia was looking something about 3K tons and a little lightly armed hull, I’d say it was a proposal for them.
It Looks like a little bit beefed up Jinnah class.

 

[boredaf]

Milgem+ AS3600

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What is it with Turkish companies and not spell checking their English material? That "2x25 mm ung" really irks me.

 

[Ripley]

What is it with Turkish companies and not spell checking their English material? That "2x25 mm ung" really irks me.

ung: Un Necessary Gun

Seriously, in the heat of excitement, it escaped my attention,too.
it’s unprofessional and ridiculous

 

[UkroTurk]

Please not a rotating radar. At least X Band 4 AESA stationary plates + rotating L band.

Last but not least please two sided UMTAS launchers ( as anti USV)!!!!

 

[boredaf]

Last but not least please two sided UMTAS launchers ( as anti USV)!!!!

Or Alpagut once it is ready. Equal or heavier warhead with something like 8 times the range, with target tracking and swarm capability. It's going to be a game changer for us against armour or threats like USVs.

 

[UkroTurk]

Or Alpagut once it is ready. Equal or heavier warhead with something like 8 times the range, with target tracking and swarm capability. It's going to be a game changer for us against armour or threats like USVs.

I would prefer faster missiles against semi submersible USV as they are very hard to detect from long distance. X Band AESA plates detect, UMTAS kills.

 

[Test7]

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Anadolu Shipyard Lays Keel of Turkey's 2nd İ-Class Frigate TCG Izmir

On November 15, 2023, Turkey's Anadolu Shipyard (ADİK) laid the first block of TCG İzmir (F-516), the 2nd ship of the MİLGEM İ-Class Frigate Project.

www.overtdefense.com

 

[Baryshx]

Anadolu Shipyard Lays Keel of Turkey's 2nd İ-Class Frigate TCG Izmir

On November 15, 2023, Turkey's Anadolu Shipyard (ADİK) laid the first block of TCG İzmir (F-516), the 2nd ship of the MİLGEM İ-Class Frigate Project.

www.overtdefense.com

Any news on the other two ships? What about Sefine and Sedef shipyards?

 

[Brave Janissary]

We are missing one point. Barbaros MLU and İ class have a good sensor tandem for light air defence frigate. when cenk-s (400+ km ) search and track long range in s band like çafrad-umr on the other hand Mar-d on Gökdeniz will track dangerous air targets around 100+ km (same like siper b1 range) like çafrad-çfr, also with akr-d block 2 ship will give a 120 km target illumination support in x+ka band like çafrad-ayr. Also this ships will have a iff system.

Also all of this sensor family available in barbaros mlu.(with diffrent s band radar.)

But by the way istif and barbaros mlu have a enough sensor package for siper b1.

İf we achieve the packing siper b1 doublepack, ships will be able to carry 16x siper b1 and 32x essm/hisar-d rf.

Good Mid-point solution until Tf-2000

 

[Anmdt]

we achieve the packing siper b1 doublepack

When multi-packed, Siper B1 will be quad-packed, not dual-packed.

 

[Brave Janissary]

When multi-packed, Siper B1 will be quad-packed, not dual-packed.

I dont think so thi Siper B1 can be quadpackable with his huge diametered booster.

 

[Anmdt]

I dont think so thi Siper B1 can be quadpackable with his huge diametered booster.

Told maybe a dozen times, the booster is for initial batches of Siper B1 and likely won't be present in Quadpackable / Naval variant of Siper B1 (will be replaced with a booster, slimmer and capable of TVC - by logic). First in queue is Hisar-N.