TR Navy Naval Programs

[uçuyorum]

Yeah I had a feeling it might not be 8 Hisar after all, at least right now.

 

[Anmdt]

• 4x Istif
• 4x Hisar OPV
• 1x TT Assault Boat
• 8x LCT
• 1x Mine Hunter
• 1x Military Tug

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I hope the Tug is an ocean-going one that TN has demanded years ago.

 

[Heartbang]

• 4x Istif
• 4x Hisar OPV
• 1x TT Assault Boat
• 8x LCT
• 1x Mine Hunter
• 1x Military Tug

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8 landing crafts?
Fucking hell, are we going to invade Greece?

 

[TheInsider]

Looks like they confused "Azami" with "Asgari" on that slide.

No confusion it can travel 50km at 45knots. It can go faster if you sacrifice range for speed.
Anyway, IMHO number one improvement should be replacing chemical batteries(Zinc+Silver oxide) with lithium-ion batteries and it should be planned and done as soon as possible.

 

[Anmdt]

8 landing crafts?
Fucking hell, are we going to invade Greece?

Replacement of Ç130 to Ç150 that is another aged platform. I think continuation of the LCT (Ç151 + ) . We may expect an evolved version with UAV integration. Impatient to see what they are going to come up with, a lot has changed since LCT80 was introduced to the service.

@Anmdt How quite is it compared to...let's say, type-26?

Type 45 (or more of what is to replace this), Horizon Class of French & Italian Navies (or more of what to replace this), Type 55 of PLAN (plus more sensors and better self protection suite).

 

[Heartbang]

Replacement of Ç130 to Ç150 that is another aged platform. I think continuation of the LCT (Ç151 + ) . We may expect an evolved version with UAV integration. Impatient to see what they are going to come up with, a lot has changed since LCT80 was introduced to the service.

Oh, I see.
That makes perfect sense, thank you.

 

[Anmdt]

Oh, I see.
That makes perfect sense, thank you.

Frankly, i won't be surprised to hear replacement of Bey Class as well, those platforms are aged and beyond of being effectively operational. Also like the Ç130-140 these platforms have got a ready to sail crew and no need of training additional sailors.

 

[Afif]

@Anmdt Will Istanbul class be fitted with towed sonar for ASW?

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt Will Istanbul class be fitted with towed sonar for ASW?

I believe that will be present in the next block by default. And possibly they are going to utilize stern ramp for towed sonar integration in the first block of I-Class or Ada Class (assuming that it will be removable), while array sonar is already present with Hızır TCMS.

 

[Brave Janissary]

4 Pearl Of Turkish Navy

 

[dBSPL]

• 4x Istif
• 4x Hisar OPV
• 1x TT Assault Boat
• 8x LCT
• 1x Mine Hunter
• 1x Military Tug

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So, as far as I understand, not the Bey Class LSTs, but the 140 class LCTs, which are derivatives of the EDIC class, will be decommissioned in the first stage.

Also as a small , but I think it's a very important detail: With the retirement of the EDIC variant classes, along with the Engin class minehunters, which had a full career in 7 seas, and the Burak class corvettes, there will be no French-origin(design) platforms in the navy. Also If we do not count the TCG Inebolu Tugboat, with the replacement of the ex-OHP Gabya class with national frigates, there will be no US-origin platforms left in the navy.

 

[dBSPL]

4 Pearl Of Turkish Navy

Since it coincided with TCG Istanbul, it was a bit overshadowed, but TCG Derya is definitely a tremendous ship. She is one of the best examples of her class in the world and will have a very strategic role in the future vision of the Turkish navy. I hope we won't have to wait long for sister ship.

 

[Afif]

So, as far as I understand, not the Bey Class LSTs, but the 140 class LCTs, which are derivatives of the EDIC class, will be decommissioned in the first stage.

Also as a small , but I think it's a very important detail: With the retirement of the EDIC variant classes, along with the Engin class minehunters, which had a full career in 7 seas, and the Burak class corvettes, there will be no French-origin(design) platforms in the navy. Also If we do not count the TCG Inebolu Tugboat, with the replacement of the ex-OHP Gabya class with national frigates, there will be no US-origin platforms left in the navy.

Yes, I was about to say that. From now on Turkish Navy will more and more actually look Turkish.

 

[dBSPL]

Yes, I was about to say that. From now on Turkish Navy will more and more actually look Turkish.

In the early 2000s, navy enthusiasts used to argue about the German and American school. Some advocated joint business models developed with the Germans, while others found the FMS channel and US aid programs useful. In the post-80s period, platform procurement deals with the French were often transfers of opportunity and were never as powerful as these two lobbies.

Due to the strong cooperation in the 90s and early 2000s and the large number of new platforms, platforms of German origin or with technical support will be in the inventory for a long time, as you know, the Reis class submarines that are still under construction are type-214 variants, but with the production decision for the TF-2000, the Americans will be next. While the position of the Germans (TKMS Lürssen B+V) seems to have been overtaken by the Spanish(Navantia), thanks to years of incredible dedication on the navionics side and weapon systems, foreign dependence on the subsystem basis has already been largely eliminated. The British were actually one of the earliest to see this transition and had been lobbying seriously starting with the Type-45, but no concrete cooperation has been achieved so far.

In the end, yes, we have succeeded in becoming more nationalized, even at the risk of not being able to provide the navy with a main combatant for almost 20 years. We have left behind a difficult stage, and the next step is to quickly transfer this engineering capacity to the naval inventory.

 

[Kartal1]

So what is the final word on the FAC design? Is it going to be FAC-55 or something else?

 

[Anmdt]

So what is the final word on the FAC design? Is it going to be FAC-55 or something else?

Last time it was a variant of MPAC (actually vice versa, but since MPAC first appeared, better call it that). I don't know about the final version. My expectation is that it will be in the MoD's 2023 annual report.​

 

[Radko]

Type 45 (or more of what is to replace this), Horizon Class of French & Italian Navies (or more of what to replace this), Type 55 of PLAN (plus more sensors and better self protection suite).

Well that's ambitious ngl

 

[Test7]

If CENK-S had a radome

 

[Nutuk]

Is a round radome not a blob on the radar?

 

[boredaf]

@Anmdt

Do you have any idea whether Aselsan's very creatively named Aselbuoy sonobuoy is in production or use by our navy?

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/ASELBUOY_ENG.pdf