TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

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But Macron is a different matter!
Он бы ударил Путина прямо в рот


However, after the publication of this photo, some doubts arose

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As much as I beef with France you cant deny their contribution.

They make their own planes and submarines they also have their own nukes.

While at the same time they have overseas territories like New Caledonia and Tahiti which is right next door to Australia.

 

[Packetlight]

Especially the stupid aid money that was pockted by corrupt politicians also created dependance.

That's why the West wants to trap people into endless debt and dependence.

Exactly...the aid is been looted by politicians who are actually their stooge, while the common people suffer. You can only control the people when they are poor.

 

[YeşilVatan]

They make and use a non-stealth fighter in the bloody 2024. And they name it "Rafale" meaning "gust of wind"

Motherfuckers named their plane after a fart and I think that's telling.

French naming conventions are a joke but using rafale is good planning. 4th gen planes are so much more cost effective, one has to be an idiot to not use them once air superiority and SEAD is achieved.

 

[Packetlight]

I could be wrong i hope you can correct me brother.

No harsh feelings.

The situation here is very complex.

1. while we have a case of herders and farmers clashes. Majority of the attacks are carried out by members of same community who disguise as herders to settle scores between themselves.

2. We have the issue of terrorism who are been sponsored by big wings/politicians to frustrate the government, most people will argue that it is about jihadi or Islamic agenda, but they have killed more Muslims than Christians. Infact religion hardly matters this days as everyone is just looking to survive.

The military success in the northeast have caused the sponsors of terrorism to switch to using kidnapping which have become rampant this days and the military have become to stretched, though it has reduced a little due to recent military operations.

Note: I am using Nigeria as reference point.


In all that I have just stated the number one problem Africa have to deal with is poverty which is the backbone of terrorism...poverty creates a breeding ground potential terrorists.

 

[Ryder]

Exactly...the aid is been looted by politicians who are actually their stooge, while the common people suffer. You can only control the people when they are poor.

West uses it as an argument oh look they cant govern themselves.

You gotta remember the Europeans said the same thing about the Turks.

Barbarian Turks cant govern but the Ottomans reached the gates of Vienna.

 

[Bozan]

The situation here is very complex.

1. while we have a case of herders and farmers clashes. Majority of the attacks are carried out by members of same community who disguise as herders to settle scores between themselves.

2. We have the issue of terrorism who are been sponsored by big wings/politicians to frustrate the government, most people will argue that it is about jihadi or Islamic agenda, but they have killed more Muslims than Christians. Infact religion hardly matters this days as everyone is just looking to survive.

The military success in the northeast have caused the sponsors of terrorism to switch to using kidnapping which have become rampant this days and the military have become to stretched, though it has reduced a little due to recent military operations.

Note: I am using Nigeria as reference point.


In all that I have just stated the number one problem Africa have to deal with is poverty which is the backbone of terrorism...poverty creates a breeding ground potential terrorists.

Is the funding for the military 100% domestic ? Including training ?

"The Department of State provides Nigeria with one of the highest International Military Education and Training (IMET) allocations in sub-Saharan Africa, with approximately $5 million obligated from FY 2019 –2023.. Nigeria is also a partner in the Africa Military Education Program (AMEP) and has benefited from approximately $500,000 since FY 2016 to support instructor and curriculum development at Nigerian military schools. From FY 2016-FY 2020, $1.8 million was obligated for Nigeria in Foreign Military Financing to support maritime security, military professionalization, and counterterrorism efforts. Nigeria is an active member of the Trans-Sahara Counterterrorism Partnership (TSCTP) and has benefitted over $8 million worth of training, equipment, and advisory support for counterterrorism efforts between FY 2019-FY 2023.

Building on the AGI program, the Department of State has obligated $941,000 in Peacekeeping Operations Funds (PKO) since 2021 for advisory services to the AFN to enhance accountability and justice by developing systems and practices on civilian harm mitigation."

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-nigeria/

Burkino Faso has lost this kind of support which I why I say it is fucked

"As of 2023, about 25% of all terrorist attack deaths worldwide have occurred in Burkina Faso, which is governed by a military junta headed by Captain Ibrahim Traore."

 

[what]

Back to Topic, please.

 

[Huelague]

Why do you lie with so much confidence?

You know nothing about Africa other than what you read online.

Now, we have a people from Africa who can enlighten us

 

[Kartal1]

351 Gambian soldiers were prepared for the security of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation Summit with the training support of Turkish soldiers.

Turkiye's Banjul Ambassador Oba, Gambia Defense Minister Njie, Gambia Chief of General Staff Cham attended the closing ceremony of the training.

Looks like a whole Turkish Special Forces team was deployed to Gambia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1785438005039354058

 

[Iskander]

The VI World Forum of Intercultural Dialogue on the theme “Dialogue for Peace and Global Security: Cooperation and Interconnection” began in Baku.

 

[Packetlight]

Is the funding for the military 100% domestic ? Including training ?

"The Department of State provides Nigeria with one of the highest International Military Education and Training (IMET) allocations in sub-Saharan Africa, with approximately $5 million obligated from FY 2019 –2023.. Nigeria is also a partner in the Africa Military Education Program (AMEP) and has benefited from approximately $500,000 since FY 2016 to support instructor and curriculum development at Nigerian military schools. From FY 2016-FY 2020, $1.8 million was obligated for Nigeria in Foreign Military Financing to support maritime security, military professionalization, and counterterrorism efforts. Nigeria is an active member of the Trans-Sahara Counterterrorism Partnership (TSCTP) and has benefitted over $8 million worth of training, equipment, and advisory support for counterterrorism efforts between FY 2019-FY 2023.

Building on the AGI program, the Department of State has obligated $941,000 in Peacekeeping Operations Funds (PKO) since 2021 for advisory services to the AFN to enhance accountability and justice by developing systems and practices on civilian harm mitigation."

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-nigeria/

Burkino Faso has lost this kind of support which I why I say it is fucked

"As of 2023, about 25% of all terrorist attack deaths worldwide have occurred in Burkina Faso, which is governed by a military junta headed by Captain Ibrahim Traore."

All this training won't matter if political will isn't there.

 

[Sanchez]

NEW: Closer relations between Turkiye and Indonesia agreed today:
- 1st High Level Strategic Cooperation Council next year (Presidents, ministers to meet)
- more defence, security cooperation, 2+2 format to start (Foreign and Defence Ministers to meet together). Agreed at today's meeting of Turkish and Indonesian Foreign Ministers in Ankara

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1785766669777854896

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786047725332492589

Why now ? Does this include oil ?

Also arguably the most popular thing Erdogan has done

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786047725332492589

Why now ? Does this include oil ?

Also arguably the most popular thing Erdogan has done

Elections are now over. So you're not going to say this is an election show, right?

 

[Bozan]

Elections are now over. So you're not going to say this is an election show, right?

Yes but why now? The war started ages ago. Did something change recently ? Why not for the elections ?

I'm not understanding this - it's also a huge break in relations with Israel. Will Erdogan force Azerbaijan to do the same ?

 

[Bozan]

Yes but why now? The war started ages ago. Did something change recently ? Why not for the elections ?

I'm not understanding this - it's also a huge break in relations with Israel. Will Erdogan force Azerbaijan to do the same ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786077759309045893

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786077759309045893

This could affect F16 transfers also.

 

[Afif]

Why does it seem, much of Turkish foreign policy has recently become reactionary in nature? Reacting (to a large degree) to fluctuation in domestic internal politics and people's perception. Some saying it is because of a new party called YRP threatening to take away Erdogan's voter base for Various reasons.(?) Among others, soft stance on Israel. Don't know how accurate is this. I could be wrong, as I am not well versed in Turkey's domestic politics.

Even if we consider it as a value and principles based move, Small and medium power unless supported by superpowers or strong regional allies, can't afford such luxury. Chances are, meterial odds will outweigh the moral benefits.

If there were multiple regional/international allies closely coordinating such move, it would've made more sense for Türkiye. In this way more or less Backlash and adverse effects are distributed.

Or it could be that president Erdogan knows, a ceasefire is close. So, it would be a short term political Stunt without long term economic repercussions.

 

[Bozan]

Why does it seem, much of Turkish foreign policy has recently become reactionary in nature. Reacting (to a large degree) to fluctuation in domestic internal politics and people's perception. Some saying it is because of new party called YRP threatening to take away Erdogan's voter base for Various reasons. Among others, soft stance on Israel. Don't know how accurate is this. I could be wrong.

Even we consider it as a value and principles based move, Small and medium power unless supported by superpowers or strong regional allies, can't afford such luxury. Chances are, meterial odds will outweigh the moral benefits.

If there were multiple regional/international allies closely coordinating such move, it would've made more sense for Türkiye. In this way more or less Backlash and adverse effects are distributed.

Or it could be that president Erdogan knows, a ceasefire is close. So, it would a short political Stunt without long term economic repercussions.

Turkish foreign policy has always been hostage to domestic policy, Erdogan's rhetoric has always been about pandering to an islamist/nationalist voterbase - see all the hostile speeches against Assad, America, Israel and Saudi and then turning around trying to normalize with them when the domestic crisis is over

Or the behaviour when Russia blew up Turkish soldiers with aircraft

Haha or even recently when he gave that stupid ass speech in Germany next to Scholz about Turkey not being hostage to Jews due to their history last year, while asking Germany for Euro fighters

Or all that shit he talked about the IMF to end up with a really shitty deal from World Bank

I believe Fahrettin actively pursued a propaganda machine promoting us VS the world in domestic discourse

 

[Rodeo]

Or it could be that president Erdogan knows, a ceasefire is close. So, it would a short term political Stunt without long term economic repercussions.

This could be it. It doesn't make sense otherwise. We exported $5.43billions to Israel and imported only $1.64billions in 2023. If the news are true, it will only exacerbate our economic woes.