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NEW: Japan's Embassy in Ankara has posted this message on its website saying:
- the PKK has been recognised as a terrorist group since 2002
- but it's now been added to Japan's Public Security Intelligence Agency's (PSIA) list of terrorist groups


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Furthermore, Mitsotakis will visit Erdogan today.

Greece's PM Mitsotakis due to meet Turkiye's President Erdoğan today in Ankara.

Will be the 1st time we can see how Declaration of Friendship, signed in December, is working 👇

Pledges of:
- joint action plan
- reduce military tension
- no public criticism of each other

How the issue of the Kariye Mosque becoming a mosque again (previously a church, mosque and museum) is dealt with, will give us an idea

Greek PM says he will raise it with Turkish President, but unclear if he will raise it during press conference.

But both leaders trying to build positive agenda, make deals where they can agree

Issues involving buildings of Greek heritage in Turkiye + Ottoman heritage in Greece have been present for years

Here easy agreement can't be reached - so it may be approached more diplomatically


From the outside, looks like they are trying to freeze conflicts but also not undertaking any real steps towards reconciliation on them, while trying to score smaller wins outside of geopolitics. Germans forcing both to lower tensions for the time being looks to be working.
 
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On May 18, the Ottoman Mehter March will be held in New York.
The Turkish parade has been held since 1981 as a protest against the killing of Turkish diplomats by the Armenian terrorist group ASALA.

 
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Second time Yaşar Güler has mentioned that he is not happy with Iran's stance on PKK.
The way we trying to deal with this treachery pisses me off immensely.

Instead of publicly bickering about " daddy Iran-desu not cooperating UwU" how about you shove a Mk84 to wherever that Mesopotamian donkey took refuge in Iran?

Persians don't get words, you communicate with them by beating them up.
 

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The way we trying to deal with this treachery pisses me off immensely.

Instead of publicly bickering about " daddy Iran-desu not cooperating UwU" how about you shove a Mk84 to wherever that Mesopotamian donkey took refuge in Iran?

Persians don't get words, you communicate with them by beating them up.
I think once Turkiye has the Air Defence problem completely solved and has this stuff in big numbers. Then we should get a lot more aggressive towards them.
 

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I think once Turkiye has the Air Defence problem completely solved and has this stuff in big numbers. Then we should get a lot more aggressive towards them.
We will never have a “complete” umbrella against Iranian ABM and drone threat. And this “lowkey” approach to Iran is not just related to IRGC standoff capabilities. Iran can be a pain in the butt for us without ever firing a shot over the border or on our bases in Iraq. Like that one time few months ago when they hijacked a ship carrying gas for Botaş.
 

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Iran can be a pain in the butt for us without ever firing a shot over the border or on our bases in Iraq. Like that one time few months ago when they hijacked a ship carrying gas for Botaş.
It goes both ways. We are able to play that game that way too.
 

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We will never have a “complete” umbrella against Iranian ABM and drone threat. And this “lowkey” approach to Iran is not just related to IRGC standoff capabilities. Iran can be a pain in the butt for us without ever firing a shot over the border or on our bases in Iraq. Like that one time few months ago when they hijacked a ship carrying gas for Botaş.
What's your solution then? Crying and letting them do whatever they want or what!?
 

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“US dominance in the world has effectively come to an end. Americans stopped trying to control everything that happens on the planet, and began to more carefully take responsibility for global processes.”
This opinion was expressed in an interview with the Indian agency PTI by Indian Foreign Minister Subramaniam Jaishankar.

As a result, many problems in the regions of the planet can no longer be solved by the United States or any other superpower. Now they are often more or less successfully resolved by the states of the region themselves without outside interference.

This opinion is already becoming generally accepted among experts. Moreover, the Americans themselves have already begun to guess (and admit!) that they are no longer hegemons.
It is also generally accepted that there is a global shift in the center of power from the West to the East.
Brzezinski 20 years ago in his acclaimed book “The Global Chessboard” announced these processes. And he connected this with «the Great Political Awakening of the East.”
Such a global process does not occur every century. It is believed that the global center of power began to establish itself in Western Europe 500 years ago, and as a result of the First and Second World Wars it moved to North America.
Today this comes to an end. The transition process itself may take several decades.
So we live in very interesting times.
In connection with all this, as a long-time observer of interstate relations, I am interested in this: what place will we - the Turkic countries in the vast space from the Balkans to the Altai Mountains - occupy in the new world?
Of course, we, lovers of all kinds of weapons, are a little sad at the thought that all these missiles, ships, fighters and all other weapons are actually just means to achieve a goal :)

What is our goal? What place will we take in the new world?
Will we be able to create a separate center of power?
Or together with neighboring countries?
This, in my opinion, is the main question for us.
 
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Among others one thing that matters, is numbers. See PRC, India and Indonesia, and the economic and industrial trajectory they are riding. If you are taking about post western-hegemony, (looking at....let's say, one and half decade ahead from now) then the next center of economic, technological and military prower will be South/East Asia region. It's already the place where great power competition is taking place. ME or Central Asia will have their own share if they can play it right, but they are too small to compete head on either with the West or South/East Asia.

Of course, I don't mean West will disappear. It's a delusion. I am talking more about 'increasing parity.'
 

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The Yerevan police, during revenge actions, detained a member of the ASALA terrorist group, Ambik Sassounyan, who spent 40 years in a US prison for the murder of the Turkish ambassador.

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It goes both ways. We are able to play that game that way too.
We probably are, but do we? I don’t see it in Syria or in Iraq.
What's your solution then? Crying and letting them do whatever they want or what!?
Tears have nothing to do with it. Iran is already enforcing its will over the region in Syria, Iraq, gulf and even Caucasus. Over the last 15 years, we’ve sat back and watched as the Shia Crescent was formed near our borders. More than half of Iraq is firmly under Iranian control, Iranian militants are on our borders as west as Tal Rıfat and Idlib. Our Syrian policy for the last 5 years is about waiting a greenlight from Russia or US and our Iraqi development road project exists as long as Iran allows it. Turkey sits back and takes it as it is while Iran plays the long game, due to multiple reasons. One of which is Iran is an hornet’s nest. By how two countries are situated and Iranian interests, we can never align our interests because Iran won’t allow it and we can’t actively destabilize them because a destabilized Iran is hell for every country in the region. We can’t position ourselves against Iran with US and Israel so we go for Gulf Arab countries. But unlike Saudi or UAE which have great relations with China, we don’t.

I don’t think this question has a definitive answer and i’m not as geopolitically savvy to have an answer.
 

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We probably are, but do we? I don’t see it in Syria or in Iraq.

Tears have nothing to do with it. Iran is already enforcing its will over the region in Syria, Iraq, gulf and even Caucasus. Over the last 15 years, we’ve sat back and watched as the Shia Crescent was formed near our borders. More than half of Iraq is firmly under Iranian control, Iranian militants are on our borders as west as Tal Rıfat and Idlib. Our Syrian policy for the last 5 years is about waiting a greenlight from Russia or US and our Iraqi development road project exists as long as Iran allows it. Turkey sits back and takes it as it is while Iran plays the long game, due to multiple reasons. One of which is Iran is an hornet’s nest. By how two countries are situated and Iranian interests, we can never align our interests because Iran won’t allow it and we can’t actively destabilize them because a destabilized Iran is hell for every country in the region. We can’t position ourselves against Iran with US and Israel so we go for Gulf Arab countries. But unlike Saudi or UAE which have great relations with China, we don’t.

I don’t think this question has a definitive answer and i’m not as geopolitically savvy to have an answer.

Turkey has so many benefits that Iran, or any other regional adversary wishes they had. But our government is useless.

Even without the benefit of being in the OTS and NATO, we're a powerhouse on our own.

We're a secular, militaristic ethno-state with the best military in the region, sitting on the most strategic land in the world. Most Arabs and Iranians despise us because of this, the same way that Armenians, Greeks and Kurds do. They hate the idea of a more secular government coming into power, especially one which would fix the refugee problem. Why? Because their biggest fear is an ethically homogenous Türkiye that is also modern and respected by the wider world. In other words, our regional enemies want us to become another middle eastern sh*thole.

We were stupid enough to back a bunch of uncoordinated Islamists in Syria. Take in millions of Syrians, many of whom were terrorists. Meanwhile the entire west supported PKK, made them look like angels whilst making us look like we supported ISIS.

How stupid could we have been to fall for this? Were we really stupid, or were we just full of traitors? And are we still full of traitors?

We need to ask ourselves why we always lose at the table despite all the advantages we have.
 

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Turkey has so many benefits that Iran, or any other regional adversary wishes they had. But our government is useless.

Even without the benefit of being in the OTS and NATO, we're a powerhouse on our own.

We're a secular, militaristic ethno-state with the best military in the region, sitting on the most strategic land in the world. Most Arabs and Iranians despise us because of this, the same way that Armenians, Greeks and Kurds do. They hate the idea of a more secular government coming into power, especially one which would fix the refugee problem. Why? Because their biggest fear is an ethically homogenous Türkiye that is also modern and respected by the wider world. In other words, our regional enemies want us to become another middle eastern sh*thole.

We were stupid enough to back a bunch of uncoordinated Islamists in Syria. Take in millions of Syrians, many of whom were terrorists. Meanwhile the entire west supported PKK, made them look like angels whilst making us look like we supported ISIS.

How stupid could we have been to fall for this? Were we really stupid, or were we just full of traitors? And are we still full of traitors?

We need to ask ourselves why we always lose at the table despite all the advantages we have.

Türkiye is already ethnically non-homogeneous, it is not? (Without counting recent influx of refugees and illegal immigrants.) 18% of population is Kurdish.
 

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Türkiye is already ethnically non-homogeneous, it is not? (Without counting recent influx of refugees and illegal immigrants.) 18% of population is Kurdish.
There was a time when it almost was. They were simply referred to as mountain Turks. Now they have their own parties and have are actively used by other countries to undermine our security. A warning for those who think that they can assimilate 10+ million refugees.
 

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Türkiye is already ethnically non-homogeneous, it is not? (Without counting recent influx of refugees and illegal immigrants.) 18% of population is Kurdish.
We are still far away from the point of no return on the issue of demographics. US will be majority non-white in a decade or so, and white Americans under 30 are the minority. Germans still are the majority but their birthrates are way worse. Basically, US and France will be transformed into something else; Germany, South Korea and Japan will experience a demographic winter. Fate of Britain and China are yet to be clear.

If some huge global crisis happens that will enable us to take measures on that front, we can still save our country. Last time we did something similar it was WW1.
 
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We are still far away from the point of no return on the issue of demographics. US will be majority non-white in a decade or so, and white Americans under 30 are the minority. Germans still are the majority but their birthrates are way worse. Basically, US and France will be transformed into something else; Germany, South Korea and Japan will experience a demographic winter. Fate of Britain and China are yet to be clear.

If some huge global crisis happens that will enable us to take measures on that front, we can still save our country. Last time we did something similar it was WW1.

US being non white majority isn't a problem for them. Whether it's Asian Americans, Indian Americans or Latino Americans or, by and large everyone integrates well compared to Europe. Not to mention US tech companies and Ivy league universities still attract the most talent pool around the world.
 
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