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[boredaf]

this is politics ppl.

Remember the LOA for F-16 has been signed, guess why Temel got replaced, and guess what's going to happen to the delivery date of KAAN.

You're connecting dotes that aren't there mate, there is no conspiracy theory here lol

 

[Saithan]

You're connecting dotes that aren't there mate, there is no conspiracy theory here lol

Maybe, but I don't think that's the case. Also I'm not saying there is a conspiracy,

The VP dude, could just as well have been appointed VP instead of replacing TK even if it meant to give the KAAN project an extra push.

So either TK got tired and quit, or they replaced him for politics.

 

[boredaf]

Maybe, but I don't think that's the case. Also I'm not saying there is a conspiracy,

The VP dude, could just as well have been appointed VP instead of replacing TK even if it meant to give the KAAN project an extra push.

So either TK got tired and quit, or they replaced him for politics.

I mean, it is probably politics but it has nothing to do with the F-16 deal and more to do with new SSB president replacing people since he came aboard. This was a scheduled assembly, it wasn't like they kicked him out suddenly. Here is an article that someone had shared about Haluk Görgün and his priorities in putting people from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and YTU people in positions of power.

Türk Savunma Sanayisinde Yönetimler Değişiyor, Halûk GÖRGÜN Damgasını Vuruyor: Michigan OUT, Rensselaer Polytechnic IN | Stratejik Araştırmalar Merkezi - STRASAM.ORG ®

Yazar, Türk Savunma Sanayisinde Yönetimler Değişiyor, Halûk GÖRGÜN Damgasını Vuruyor: Michigan OUT, Rensselaer Polytechnic IN iddiasını anlatıyor.

strasam.org

The important thing is how this is going to effect projects going forward and if it'll make other defence companies prioritizing serial productions over prototyping like the article suggests.

 

[DBdev]

Michigan is like 4

I mean, it is probably politics but it has nothing to do with the F-16 deal and more to do with new SSB president replacing people since he came aboard. This was a scheduled assembly, it wasn't like they kicked him out suddenly. Here is an article that someone had shared about Haluk Görgün and his priorities in putting people from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and YTU people in positions of power.

Türk Savunma Sanayisinde Yönetimler Değişiyor, Halûk GÖRGÜN Damgasını Vuruyor: Michigan OUT, Rensselaer Polytechnic IN | Stratejik Araştırmalar Merkezi - STRASAM.ORG ®

Yazar, Türk Savunma Sanayisinde Yönetimler Değişiyor, Halûk GÖRGÜN Damgasını Vuruyor: Michigan OUT, Rensselaer Polytechnic IN iddiasını anlatıyor.

strasam.org

The important thing is how this is going to effect projects going forward and if it'll make other defence companies prioritizing serial productions over prototyping like the article suggests.

I am not sure if this ranking I found is globally accepted one since there are many. Enlighten me please. But as far as I can see,
best university on the globe M.I.T. which has only a few attendants from Türkiye have Selçuk Bayraktar the Turkish Elon Musk among its alumni.
Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil's Michigan University is like the 44th meanwhile Rensselaer is not even in the top 600.

I don't know about rest of you, but I feel physically sick since yesterday. Because of our chronic nepotism disease, not having any Turkish Universities in top 500, higher quality people with extraordinary drive & vision being replaced by mediocre jealous people. So many problems and yet no cure in the horizon. It gets worse not better.

https://www.topuniversities.com/world-university-rankings

 

[Saithan]

You can thank the government for most of that.

You can't just shit out a good university, it takes tens of years to work your way up among the best, and that is by having a system that promotes and supports Merit (Liyakat).

You actively need to k.. get rid of anyone who tries to go for nepotism.

 

[Huelague]

Is it possible to kick out T.Kotil without permission from Erdogan?
As we ‘known’ , Kotil has close ties with Erdogan.

 

[DBdev]

Is it possible to kick out T.Kotil without permission from Erdogan?
As we ‘known’ , Kotil has close ties with Erdogan.

Erdoğan makes mistakes all the time. Not only that if there is a mistake to be made out of 100 choices he always makes that 1 mistake several times in fact.
He trusts everyone and anyone at first even Apo, Assad, Gülen, Davutoğlu, Herzog, Nebati, list is endless. His naive and too trusting demeanor always gets taken advantage of by smarter people with malicious intent.

Haluk Gorgun for some weird “coincidence” just started to grow a MUSTACHE that alone made him "one of the guys" in Erdoğan's shallow world view. I am sure they must have given him some bull explanation against Kotil too. Perhaps 2 or 3 Rensselaer graduates with mustaches also told him same things about Kotil.

He doesn't think about KAAN project continuity, losing trust, Kotil's unmatched track record, possible workplace mobbing, university rankings or nepotism. Does anyone here think he thinks about any of those things LOL? Of course not. If the guy has a mustache and just 1 other guy with a mustache agrees with him, he must be right is pretty much is his analytical thinking. I might be exaggerating a bit But yeah that's what I think happened there…

 

[Afif]

 

[Heartbang]

This was a breath of fresh air amongst the muck. Thanks!

 

[uçuyorum]

This was a breath of fresh air amongst the muck. Thanks!

Kinda sad a Turkish source didn't make such a video, but yeah this one video is most accurate and detailed you can find on youtube.

 

[Spitfire9]

Kinda sad a Turkish source didn't make such a video, but yeah this one video is most accurate and detailed you can find on youtube.

I like this eccentric character. I find him very knowledgeable. To me It is good this video is not of Turkish origin. Assessments of their own country's products by nationals tend to be subjectively positive.

 

[uçuyorum]

I like this eccentric character. I find him very knowledgeable. To me It is good this video is not of Turkish origin. Assessments of their own country's products by nationals tend to be subjectively positive.

Yes but we need more international awareness, we can't just rely on others.

 

[Radonsider]

I like this eccentric character. I find him very knowledgeable. To me It is good this video is not of Turkish origin. Assessments of their own country's products by nationals tend to be subjectively positive.

He is less negatively biased than Turkish "analysts" tbh.

 

[Oublious]

Kinda sad a Turkish source didn't make such a video, but yeah this one video is most accurate and detailed you can find on youtube.

absolutly not, this is perfect. I watched this guy several years and when he speaks about certain subjects means order.

 

[Oublious]

The KAAN is Just a Copy of…

www.youtube.com

 

[Fuzuli NL]

The KAAN is Just a Copy of…

www.youtube.com

We call them the "Eziks"

 

[Afif]

Wrong thread. Needs to be moved USAF thread. @Kartal1

On the topic itself, that make sense. F35 block 4 and upgraded F22 would keep the qualitative edge of USAF for some decades. In some sense NGAD is more of the same. (Just on steroid).

Hence, diverting investments into global strike command and CCA in the short term makes sense. Though there is always possibility of congress forcing the air force to keep the NGAD program on time.

 

[DBdev]

“Rensselaer Gang” taking credit for Kotil's stellar hard work on KAAN at his TAI office I assume.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805609998229049441

Forget 2028, 2030 would be a out of question with Gorgun's 9-to-5 lackadaisical tempo.

10 years later and ex-Aselsan boss Haluk still couldn't even deliver a decent Murad AESA radar at the level of F-16 SABR radar despite promises.

You may not see it right now but this is a sad day for anyone who is emotionally invested in KAAN project. You'll see... Delay after delay is loading...