TR Military Operations in Northern Iraq

[Kartal1]

Israel obviously through Azerbaycan has an excellent network in Iran to target high value targets. Why cant we use the same network? I mean high ranking PKK commanders enjoy a safe heaven in Iran which they shouldn't.

I was thinking of writing a long answer, but decided to keep it short.

I am confident that Israel uses KDP-I and allies networks in Iran instead of Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan is not the preferred option when it comes to the enabling of MOSSAD operations in Iran.

The KDP-I already has deep roots in Iran and controls smuggling routes between Iran and Iraq. Another factor is that Israel is working in Iran for decades, establishing its intelligence network while we slept all this time and currently can only cry because "we gave the addresses to our Iranian brothers, but they told us that there's nobody there". Israel also chooses its targets carefully and doesn't fear retaliation. They don't even try to hide while there is no chance for us to conduct a military operation inside Iran of such importance and claim it.

We already have an informant network inside PKK, but we need more in order to enable such an operation. If we take for a fact that Cemil Bayik is based in Urmiya, Iran (1.000.000.000 population, Turkic and Kurdish ethnicities), we would need a very serious agent and informant network which would be able to track Cemil Bayik who is most probably traveling under false identity and Iranian Intelligence protection. We are talking about SIGINT, HUMINT, special reconnaissance, surveillance, cyber teams and hit teams which are positioned and ready in their areas of responsibility. I am sure that we already know the rumors, but such an operation needs to be based on accurate and timely intelligence due to the fact that these men (PKK leaders) may surface for a short breath and they are back underground. We must be ready to respond to the intelligence timely with a ready to act hit team. We are talking about an operation that may last months or even years and in this period of time we must ensure that our local agents and informants stay motivated and loyal to us and the secrecy of our operation stays as it is.

Many people think that to operate in Iran is very easy, but it is not, especially for us. We need to work consistently for decades in order to match the level of the Israeli networks in Iran and the objectives of these networks is very different. While Israel is using so much resource in Iran in order to ensure their very existence, we would operate in Iran in order to hunt terrorists that are in a decline.

Most importantly is not if we are able to do it (I am sure that with consistent work we are able to do it), but if the political and military leadership is ready to bear the consequences, because as we said before, we lack the deterrence. Iran will not attack Turkiye, but our foreign bases are in a great danger. We should be ready for the worst case scenario.

I don't want to discourage anyone, but if the Islamic Resistance in Iraq (not the Iranian State) decides they can nullify the result of 10 years of work, hundreds of martyrs in the mountains of Iraq and inflict damages equal to hundreds of martyrs, millions in terms of equipment and can end our existence in Iraq in around a month of intense attacks. It is a hard to swallow fact that we just don't have the capability to react to this threat appropriately.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

It's no coincidence that the October 7 attacks happened after Turkish-Israeli reproachment and a quickly forming alliance between Azerbaijan-Turkiye-Israel.

Iran sacrificed Palestine to save its own ass.

Whilst we turn a blind eye to Iran, and many Islamists praise them, they give PKK the ability to shoot down our drones.

 

[Lool]

It's no coincidence that the October 7 attacks happened after Turkish-Israeli reproachment and a quickly forming alliance between Azerbaijan-Turkiye-Israel.

Iran sacrificed Palestine to save its own ass.

Whilst we turn a blind eye to Iran, and many Islamists praise them, they give PKK the ability to shoot down our drones.

Just a quick clarification mate
The october 7th attack didnt occur in order to sabotage the Turkish-Israeli reproachment; but was done in order for Natenyahu to find a loophope so that he can escape his jail time

If you wanna understand the Med East, then you need to know that Iran/Hamas/Israel are all on the fqing side! When Natenyahu was set to rot in prison for his whole life, Hamas came with October 7th attack to save Natenyahu's ass, and when Public discontent against Natenyahu reached its peak, Iran aided Israel by assassinating Ismail Haneyah, the political figure of Hamas

The only thing you should know is that Natenyahu knew that doing this would jeopardise the improvement in relations with Turkey, yet he chose to do it nonetheless because he falued the current chaos as more valuable to Israel and his own filthy ass than good and peaceful ties with Turkey

That is why I always said that Israel and Turkey can hever be friends. Ever since Israel came into the Middle East and all sorts of problems arose in the region; from the PKK, Hamas, Iraq war, Syrian war, Iran's increasing influence, Yemen, and even Libya..... the only nation that benefits from the chaos in the region has always been Israel

 

[Slayer]

I was thinking of writing a long answer, but decided to keep it short.

I am confident that Israel uses KDP-I and allies networks in Iran instead of Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan is not the preferred option when it comes to the enabling of MOSSAD operations in Iran.

The KDP-I already has deep roots in Iran and controls smuggling routes between Iran and Iraq. Another factor is that Israel is working in Iran for decades, establishing its intelligence network while we slept all this time and currently can only cry because "we gave the addresses to our Iranian brothers, but they told us that there's nobody there". Israel also chooses its targets carefully and doesn't fear retaliation. They don't even try to hide while there is no chance for us to conduct a military operation inside Iran of such importance and claim it.

We already have an informant network inside PKK, but we need more in order to enable such an operation. If we take for a fact that Cemil Bayik is based in Urmiya, Iran (1.000.000.000 population, Turkic and Kurdish ethnicities), we would need a very serious agent and informant network which would be able to track Cemil Bayik who is most probably traveling under false identity and Iranian Intelligence protection. We are talking about SIGINT, HUMINT, special reconnaissance, surveillance, cyber teams and hit teams which are positioned and ready in their areas of responsibility. I am sure that we already know the rumors, but such an operation needs to be based on accurate and timely intelligence due to the fact that these men (PKK leaders) may surface for a short breath and they are back underground. We must be ready to respond to the intelligence timely with a ready to act hit team. We are talking about an operation that may last months or even years and in this period of time we must ensure that our local agents and informants stay motivated and loyal to us and the secrecy of our operation stays as it is.

Many people think that to operate in Iran is very easy, but it is not, especially for us. We need to work consistently for decades in order to match the level of the Israeli networks in Iran and the objectives of these networks is very different. While Israel is using so much resource in Iran in order to ensure their very existence, we would operate in Iran in order to hunt terrorists that are in a decline.

Most importantly is not if we are able to do it (I am sure that with consistent work we are able to do it), but if the political and military leadership is ready to bear the consequences, because as we said before, we lack the deterrence. Iran will not attack Turkiye, but our foreign bases are in a great danger. We should be ready for the worst case scenario.

I don't want to discourage anyone, but if the Islamic Resistance in Iraq (not the Iranian State) decides they can nullify the result of 10 years of work, hundreds of martyrs in the mountains of Iraq and inflict damages equal to hundreds of martyrs, millions in terms of equipment and can end our existence in Iraq in around a month of intense attacks. It is a hard to swallow fact that we just don't have the capability to react to this threat appropriately.

Had no idea that KDP is that entrenched in Iran but it makes sense. Azerbaycan has a really good network in Iran due to the many Azeris in Iran and because Iran is siding with Armenia. And I agree. We have only ourselves to blame regarding Iran.

 

[Slayer]

didnt iran aslo have problem with separatist kurds pjak pkk branch and they hung them in public ?!
So if iran use pkk agaist Turkiye , Turkiye can use pjak agaist iran

Pjak is a ruse.

 

[Kartal1]

While the PKK normally claims all UAVs shot by them, they did not take responsibility for this.

ANKA-S UCAV belonging to TSK/MIT crashed/was shot down in the Siyagoz village on the Iranian border in the Asos-Pencvin camp on August 1.

It is more likely that the Iranians shot down the UCAV. The Iranians previously shot down a civilian airliner by mistake so they may have even mistook ANKA for an Israeli Heron.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820055920107225160

The area is the same area where we previously eliminated the PKK Suleymaniye chief together with terrorists from the Iranian wing of PKK, PJAK. We see that airstrikes in the area intensified in the last month which points at possible depots for Iran sourced supplies and/or drone manufacturing facilities.

 

[Corvus]

We need to implement an "Israel" policy in that regard. Kill/destroy EVERYTHING that is a threat to TSK.

Yeah because Israel's policy is working great. Right?

 

[boredaf]

We need to implement an "Israel" policy in that regard. Kill/destroy EVERYTHING that is a threat to TSK.

As the saying goes, those do not learn from the history are doomed to repeat it. "War on Terror" waged by US only created more terrorists, so did Israel's brutality and so did every other attempt at trying to stop "terror" by going scorched earth. It is a concept that'll never, ever work; especially long term. @Kartal1 is right, air defence capability should be our priority #1 in the region and in general before thinking about bombing wherever we think or know an enemy might be, whether in another nation or within civilians. And don't forget, we are not Israel, we will never be given the same leeway they get.

One of our greatest failures as a nation (and quite frankly, as a civilisation) has always been our focus on short term gains and solutions, if we want to be safe, if we want to be a nation that is strong enough to stand on its own we first need to change this mindset.

I hope we can get a sort of a deal with Trump on this and lets hope this will be our last strategic capability that we acquire from abroad.

Trump is not going to win mate, not after Biden dropped out. He is by far the weaker candidate now and his VP pick has damaged him even more. Unless something drastic happens, I wouldn't bet on him winning and certainly wouldn't make any plans based on that bet.

 

[Slayer]

Yeah because Israel's policy is working great. Right?

From a political stand point it is not working but from a military standpoint i'd say it is working. And objectively, how has our current plan been working out? Has PKKs maneuverability both on the battlefield and politically been curtailed. No.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Yeah because Israel's policy is working great. Right?

well yeah it is.

Hamas is getting wiped out wnd Hezbollah is next. And Israel isn't scared to hit Iranian assets on Iranian soil.

Meanwhile, Turkey is watching whilst both Iran and the USA give weapons to PKK. I don't expect the situation to improve under this government.

Sure, operations are being carried out deep Iraq... But none of that matters if you shy away from striking their backers. Both the USA and Iran is giving PKK weapons that can shoot down drones, helicopters and even low flying jets. What is Turkey doing about it? Made announcements and that's about it. Hard pill to swallow, but not much is being done. TSK is capable of scaring Iran at the very least, and I also believe it could warn the US. But we won't see any action any time soon.

If this nation had decent leadership it could have easily used the situation which has unfolded in the middle east for the past 15 years to its advantage. Instead, it time after time backs the losing side, always seems to lose at the table and never makes a smart move. Apart from some victories on the battlefield, it's been nothing but losses at the table. It's a shame because Turkey has so many advantages compared to the rest of the middle east. It's almost as if its leadership wants it to lose.

 

[Slayer]

well yeah it is.

Hamas is getting wiped out wnd Hezbollah is next. And Israel isn't scared to hit Iranian assets on Iranian soil.

Meanwhile, Turkey is watching whilst both Iran and the USA give weapons to PKK. I don't expect the situation to improve under this government.

Sure, operations are being carried out deep Iraq... But none of that matters if you shy away from striking their backers. Both the USA and Iran is giving PKK weapons that can shoot down drones, helicopters and even low flying jets. What is Turkey doing about it? Made announcements and that's about it. Hard pill to swallow, but not much is being done. TSK is capable of scaring Iran at the very least, and I also believe it could warn the US. But we won't see any action any time soon.

If this nation had decent leadership it could have easily used the situation which has unfolded in the middle east for the past 15 years to its advantage. Instead, it time after time backs the losing side, always seems to lose at the table and never makes a smart move. Apart from some victories on the battlefield, it's been nothing but losses at the table. It's a shame because Turkey has so many advantages compared to the rest of the middle east. It's almost as if its leadership wants it to lose.

Exactly.

We have for years been trying to sweet talk Iran to move against the PKK in a coordinated effort, so far nothing has materialized. It's about time we get rid of the carrot and use the stick.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Exactly.

We have for years been trying to sweet talk Iran to move against the PKK in a coordinated effort, so far nothing has materialized. It's about time we get rid of the carrot and use the stick.

Yeah but I don’t expect the current government to do anything about it. They are surprisingly very passive about Iran for some reason.

 

[Lool]

Exactly.

We have for years been trying to sweet talk Iran to move against the PKK in a coordinated effort, so far nothing has materialized. It's about time we get rid of the carrot and use the stick.

Yeah but I don’t expect the current government to do anything about it. They are surprisingly very passive about Iran for some reason.

Simply because no one will stand on Turkey's side when they fight against Iran. Iran's strength is in their number of allies....

In a one on one fight, Turkey will win against Iran but will be a tough one; however, a victory is a victory nonetheless

If Turkey did attack Iran, radicals like Hizbollah, Hamas, PKK, and many more elements in Iran will unite against Turkey. Arab nations will claim neutrality and Asian nations will also stay out of this especially with the deep China-Iran ties and obviously dont depend on the greatest hypocrites to ever exist, Western nations, to help

Therefore, Turkey will end up fighting a coalition of radicals across the whole Turkish nation borders within more than one front alone..... this fight wont end well for Turkey

 

[Kartal1]

Yeah but I don’t expect the current government to do anything about it. They are surprisingly very passive about Iran for some reason.

The reason is what we discussed above.

We can not sustain a prolonged conflict with Iran (proxies) and can not react to an Iranian response to the violation to Iranian sovereignty in case of a military operation inside Iran.

The problem is not a lack of tactical capabilities to carry out such an operation. With the needed preparations we can do it, but we will not be able to manage the damage after that.

In counter-terrorism operations, unconventional warfare and low-intensity conflicts like the one we see, sustainability is a key for the positive outcome of all the efforts. As we proved we can effectively sustain and adapt to the current tempo of the conflict and the challenges that are before us, but I am not confident that we would be able to resist the pressure of an Iranian response and we may lose all the progress we've made in Iraq in a matter of months.

My take is that apart from the technical capabilities that we should obtain in order to be able to effectively protect and sustain our military presence in Iraq, we should also work on a counter-measure in the unconventional side of things. We should prevent the spreading of "Kurdistan Hezbollah" as the IRGC calls the newly formed organization that will be active in KRG and establish deeper connection with local actors close to the KDP.

A very good development is the fact that the Hashdi Shaabi is mad about a Turkish meddling in the relationship between the Turkmen PMU fighters with the PMU leadership and objectives. We reportedly used Turkmen fighters in a covert operation against PUK targets. So this means that if we play our cards right we may be able to restore our influence within the Turkmens in Iraq and hopefully train and arm them within another project away from the Hashdi Shaabi. This may give a birth to both military, but also political victories. In such a case we must step up our game and I hope that we have the resources for it because we have other things to think of like Syria, Libya and Somalia.

 

[Kartal1]

Iraqi Supreme Judicial Council:

It was decided to close down three political parties affiliated with the terrorist organization PKK and confiscate their assets.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820567354516095060

The closed parties are PADE, PTD and Tevgera Azadi.

 

[Saithan]

Those are interesting developments and to be honest a good move from Iraq. State assets used to promote terrorism should be punished harsher, if proven with evidence, should result in prison time no less than 15 years with good behavior.

 

[Kartal1]

Infantry Non-Commissioned Officer Habip Murat ALP fell martyr during a search and destroy operation in the Claw-Lock area of operations. He is the first martyr we lost due to an ambush/infiltration by the PKK's field teams in 2024. May Allah accept his martyrdom!

There are also some good news from our operations. According to one of our best sources, we killed 2 terrorists yesterday and at least 5 today in operations at the Tepe Bahar and Seri areas of Zap.

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Meanwhile regular airstrikes and T-129 Atak activities are continuing at the usual places. Operations in Hakurk are intensifying.

 

[Kartal1]

There are very important changes when it comes to our command and operations planning staff in the north of Iraq.

The commander of 2nd Army, General Metin TOKEL was appointed as the new commander of 1st Army.

The commander of 23rd Infantry Division, General Emre TAYANC is appointed as the new Deputy Commander of the Aegean Army.

The new commander of the 23rd Infantry Division is General Rifat DONEL. He comes from the position of the commander of the 28th Mechanized Infantry Brigade in TRNC.

We currently don't know what is the reason for these decisions, but for sure our commanders did an incredible job during these years. The Claw-Lock series of operations are of critical importance for the security of Turkiye. I wish even greater success of our new commanders and lets hope we manage to conclude the "Lock" as soon as possible.

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822933680253206855

PKK cave in Northern Iraq.

 

[Kartal1]

Analysis by one of our main sources regarding the operations in the north of Iraq.

We hope we will not have any more problems this winter on Mount Matin. Here are the advantages we see in the area:

> Bases are being established on the Sergele passage and the hill to the east.
> Base is being established on the hill line to the south of the mountain, which the organization uses for infiltration.
> Base is established on the hard slope to the east of the mountain.
> Base is being established opposite the tunnel at the southern foot of the mountain.
> Additionally, there are improvements in all base areas in the area.

In addition to these, we see that the Peshmerga's effectiveness in the region has increased. Now, the three tunnels in the mountain are in sight and the routes used by the organization for infiltration have been taken under control.

The organization's fortifications in the villages near Gara (Mije and Spindar) were also destroyed. The Turkish Armed Forces are now intervening more harshly against the PKK presence in civilian areas.

When we examine the map, we can say that we see that there are no blind spots left for the TSK bases. Now there may be a threat to the bases in the south, but we also see that convoys go every evening for the base areas there.

So it looks like everything that needs to be done has been done. Hopefully we won't have any problems on Mount Matin this year. But there are base areas closer to the villages now. Hopefully we won't encounter serious problems from these villages.

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