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only killing terrorist on montuin wont end PKK you need to attack all 5 branches just like Jitem as PKK was finished by the year 2000 and revived by erdogan during çözöm süreci


tribute to rahmetli arif doğan founder of Jitem​
 

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If you put your future on the trust of politicians.

This is the result.

By this rate I really do support a coup. With the Turkish military hanging all those traitorous politicians.

Treason cant be forgiven. Erdogan, Bahceli and Chp, Akp all of them should be ashamed of themselves.


Ozan Arif was pretty much right about Devlet Bahceli.
 

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In the end the US has put us in line. Our decade long declining economy has spent all the fuel and there's none left. So the way out is to follow the prescription of the US.

We are going to acknowledge and recognize YPG as a legitimate state distinct from PKK. A few days ago Mehmet Metiner has said this:

"Our government is not disturbed by the administration or the gains of the Kurds in Syria. On the contrary, it is pleased. A Kurdish autonomous region similar to the one in Iraq can be established in Syria, we have no objection."

The probable course of action; They will release Öcalan. He will command PKK to dissolve. A few PKK terrorists would surrender only for show or be given passaports. We will recognize YPG as ordered. And western money and investments starts flowing in. At least that must be the thing that was promised. We would also deliver S400 to third parties and become the vassal of the US.

This is not my theory. I've been listening to "Harun Reşit Aydın"(twitter spaces) to make sense of this fucking scandal.

He also hinted that we will be warring against China in this conjecture. I could not make the connection as foreign policy is not my strong suit.

Edit: "become the vassal of the US" part belongs to me. Not to Harun Reşit.
 
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Ok if this is how they're going to justify it, even a good portion of AKP-MHP base will find it childish, unless something happens which will make the justification work on some level. Islamists and nationalists are generally dimwits, so you'd fully expect them to make a bad calculation but even then they've been preparing and coordinating this for some time now and they know they're swimming against the current of political climate. The political climate couldn't be more different than the first çözüm süreci.

Case in point, here's the first comment:

Islamists and Nationalists are dimwitted along with Kemalists of the CHP.

All of this can easily be ended with protests and revolts.

This shouldnt be tolerated not surprised as the Turkish people see their political parties and ideologies like a football team.

You know I now realised why so many commanders, generals you name it all got thrown into prison or killed off.

Because this kind of things wont be tolerated and Tayyip filled the military with YES Men.

These fcking politicians man. I hope they all burn in hell. Hepsi helak olsun.

Tayyip can constantly fool the public by praying and reading the Quran. But he cant fool God.

Sooner or later God is going to cut them down.
 

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Can we get some different perspectives about the current situation in hand? For example from pro Cumhur ittifaki members like @Zafer and others on how they’re feeling right now? If my memory serves correctly there were lots of name calling and labeling during the election cycle against millet ittifaki
If it will be instrumental in putting an end to terror it is a winning proposition.
 
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If it will be instrumental in putting an and to terror it is a winning proposition.
When you recognize a terrorist organization as a legitimate state, you automatically solve your terrorism issue. Why could not have anyone come up with this idea? Fucking brilliant.

Now the traitors that are ruling this country will plow the constitution and compile a new one with no "Turk" reference in it and pass it without any referendum. At that point we'll become a failed state.
 

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If it will be instrumental in putting an end to terror it is a winning proposition.
You know very well that thousands died because some other terror group FETÖ prevented Türkiye from taking the required actions against that certain terror group. Türkiye is on top of its game in defence matters these years yet terrorists refuse to die off completely because they are forced by their western masters. If Türkiye wants to eliminate the western intervention in our region we need to take their sharpest weapon from their hands. I will only say this much.
 

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You know very well that thousands died because some other terror group FETÖ prevented Türkiye from taking the required actions against that certain terror group. Türkiye is on top of its game in defence matters these years yet terrorists refuse to die off completely because they are forced by their western masters. If Türkiye wants to eliminate the western intervention in our region we need to take their sharpest weapon from their hands. I will only say this much.
It wasnt their "western masters" that invited them to speak in the Turkish parliament, was it? It isnt the west that puts millions of taxpayer money into the hands of terrorist agents.

You take that weapon out of their hands by completely eradicating said weapon, so that it can never pose any kind of threat ever again. Otherwise it will just eventually re-emerge over and over again.
 

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You know very well that thousands died because some other terror group FETÖ prevented Türkiye from taking the required actions against that certain terror group. Türkiye is on top of its game in defence matters these years yet terrorists refuse to die off completely because they are forced by their western masters. If Türkiye wants to eliminate the western intervention in our region we need to take their sharpest weapon from their hands. I will only say this much.
I hold a gun to your head and say: "Give me your wallet"

You give me your wallet

Then you gloat around "I neutralized the threat, he didn't shoot me!"

This is how ridiculous you people sound.
 

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You know very well that thousands died because some other terror group FETÖ prevented Türkiye from taking the required actions against that certain terror group. Türkiye is on top of its game in defence matters these years yet terrorists refuse to die off completely because they are forced by their western masters. If Türkiye wants to eliminate the western intervention in our region we need to take their sharpest weapon from their hands. I will only say this much.

Sounds like BS as Tayyip and Feto were pretty much best buddies until they had a fallout.
 

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Sounds like BS as Tayyip and Feto were pretty much best buddies until they had a fallout.
IF FETÖ had died 10 years ago Erdogan would have weeped on live television (he still probably did in his chambers in his palace). These people wanting to act as if Erdogan wasn't the one who gave FETÖ the keys to every single layer of government,military,education to FETÖ are hilarious.

Couldn't keep his excitement in check when FETÖ promised him they would get rid of republicans,kemalists and nationalist (the people actually keeping the Republic running and safe).
 

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IF FETÖ had died 10 years ago Erdogan would have weeped on live television (he still probably did in his chambers in his palace). These people wanting to act as if Erdogan wasn't the one who gave FETÖ the keys to every single layer of government,military,education to FETÖ are hilarious.

Couldn't keep his excitement in check when FETÖ promised him they would get rid of republicans,kemalists and nationalist (the people actually keeping the Republic running and safe).

Not to mention Erdogan backstabbed Erbakan his teacher for Feto.

Between Feto and Erdogan it was all about who was going to backstab first.
 

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Ümit Özdağ too like Mansur Yavaş took negative stance to these news.We really need snap elections at the moment.

Dont trust Umit Ozdag too much. Wasnt he the one who supported the CHP during the previous elections even when Kilicdaroglu promised the HDP/DEM a ministry

Umit Ozdag is just trying to snatch the nationalist votes from the hands of AKP/MHP/iYi

The only decent one till date, who havent shown any contradicting values yet, is Mansur Yavas
 

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