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So what is the policy of Turkish government about Syrian Kürdistan?

Are we totally against any foundation of Kurdish autonomy in Syria? If Kurdish autonomy in Syria is a big threat for our national security, Then why did we allow Kurdish autonomy in Iraq?

Or are we against just YPG governed autonomy in Syria? So mild Kurdish autonomy in Syria will be okay?

To be honest, in northern Syria Kurdish population and density are very low, lower than Türkiye.


Look at the so called map, Even mofos don't claim territory from Syria, how come northern Syria became Kurdish territory?


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There are a lot of so called Kürdistan maps, but they took tiny land from Syria.

Sorry for disturbing images but the maps shows there is no Kürdistan in Syria. Unbelievable, currently how those mofos rule the northern?
bro US & A Rule there not kurds , And western use kurds and others as tool
 

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So what is the policy of Turkish government about Syrian Kürdistan?

Are we totally against any foundation of Kurdish autonomy in Syria? If Kurdish autonomy in Syria is a big threat for our national security, Then why did we allow Kurdish autonomy in Iraq?

Or are we against just YPG governed autonomy in Syria? So mild Kurdish autonomy in Syria will be okay?

To be honest, in northern Syria Kurdish population and density are very low, lower than Türkiye.


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Look at the so called map, Even mofos don't claim territory from Syria, how come northern Syria became Kurdish territory?


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There are a lot of so called Kürdistan maps, but they took tiny land from Syria.

Sorry for disturbing images but the maps shows there is no Kürdistan in Syria. Unbelievable, currently how those mofos rule the northern?
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We should look from the perspective of Kurdish politics in Iraq and Syria based on mutual interest, realities and Turkiye's relationship with the big Kurdish powers.

There are basically two camps

Iraq Talabani---PYD/YPG Syria

Iraq Barzani---ENKS Syria

The first couple is heavily anti-Turkish. Bafel Talabani just like his father manages to play with all sides according to his plans, but he is too dumb to cross Turkiye's red lines.

The second couple is currently heavily pro-Turkiye, not because they love us, but because they realized after the failed independence referendum how heavily they depend on us and that they don't have any future without Turkiye. Basically we got them by the balls.

Talabani cooperates with all branches of the PKK both in Iraq and Syria while Barzani refuses cooperation and works in a tight coordination with Turkiye in order to support Turkiye's counter-terrorism efforts.

When we take in account these dynamics the next thing we should look is to see who is representing the Turkish supported Syrian Opposition that is supposed to negotiate with Assad on a constitution, actively play role in a possible election process and possibly rule the country. A part of the Syrian Opposition representation is the ENKS.

So when it comes to the Kurdish affairs in Iraq and Syria we support the Barzani-ENKS duo.

I personally don't think that we would support a Kurdish autonomy in Syria no matter with the ENKS or PYD on the lead. The protection of Syria's integrity is the main point according to which we shape our politics there. We support the greatest Kurdish power in the region (KDP) and they enable our policies within the Kurds, increasing our influence and this cooperation is based on mutual interests and the best thing is that they don't have any other choice.
 

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We support the greatest Kurdish power in the region (KDP) and they enable our policies within the Kurds, increasing our influence and this cooperation is based on mutual interests and the best thing is that they don't have any other choice.
▪️ The Turkish people are given sweet poison by saying “We are expanding to Misakı Milli borders"

Abdullah Öcalan has become arden supporter of Misakı Milli

Nechirvan Barzani said: " we are proud of that Erbil was showed in Turkish map"

Duhok and Erbil will join to Turkish Republic.


▪️ YPGISTAN in the north of Syria and BARZANISTAN in the north of Iraq (with the Turkish cities of Kirkuk and Mosul also joining Barzanistan) will come under our protection in the form of a so-called federation.


Changing alphabet under the name of Turkish union.

▪️ Afterwards, they will unite with our East and Southeast and declare independence.

Unfortunately We will found and gift Kürdistan to Kurds.

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▪️ The Turkish people are given sweet poison by saying “We are expanding to Misakı Milli borders"

Abdullah Öcalan has become arden supporter of Misakı Milli

Nechirvan Barzani said: " we are proud of that Erbil was showed in Turkish map"

Duhok and Erbil will join to Turkish Republic.


▪️ YPGISTAN in the north of Syria and BARZANISTAN in the north of Iraq (with the Turkish cities of Kirkuk and Mosul also joining Barzanistan) will come under our protection in the form of a so-called federation.


Changing alphabet under the name of Turkish union.

▪️ Afterwards, they will unite with our East and Southeast and declare independence.

Unfortunately We will found and gift Kürdistan to Kurds.

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I think that with the last kayums and the rumors about even more including Van and Diyarbakır this initiative is done. By the way Nacirvan Barzani never said such a thing. It was fake news initially posted by a pro-PKK account.

I think we discussed a possible federation or confederation scenario with @Bozan . So far I don't think it is possible, but if KRG face an Iranian threat of invasion, then we will be forced to protect the KDP there and 2 options would be on the table. Either independence or living under Turkish protection. This is the worst scenario. KDP and Iran managed to normalize their relations so far, but it is temporary. We should work on better KDP-Iran relations while we fight PKK in the same time.

When it comes to Syria I think PKK/YPG federation is out of question. The only scenario of a federation there would be in case that the YPG/PKK threat is abolished entirely, the north of Syria is under Turkish/Opposition control and negotiations with Assad fail so bad that there is no other way to make it work. Even if some kind of autonomous region exists it will not be under the control of a Kurdish party as the demographics there and the population will be redistributed to its previous states. We can look how Afrin works today to help us imagine. Before the civil war there was a big Arab population.

Nevertheless I think we should be careful about KRG. The prospects are not very positive in the long term.
 

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A large operation to the Al-Malikiyah district (east of Qamishli) is what we need, other places such as Tel Rifat or Manbij are of lesser importance. Cutting them off from the KRG should be the priority.

As Kartal said in the long term the prospects with the KRG are not positive, i would even say that they could become a larger threat as the YPG/PKK. Therefore you have to tighten the economic and political leash on Barzani, keep a favourable balance between KDP and PUK, but i disagree on the Iran - KDP part.
 
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Statement from Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Öncü Keçeli regarding the population movement in Kirkuk:

We expect the Iraqi authorities not to allow our Turkmen compatriots, who have been subjected to countless massacres and oppression over the last century, to be victimized once again due to these latest developments within the scope of the census.

 

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Statement from Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Öncü Keçeli regarding the population movement in Kirkuk:

We expect the Iraqi authorities not to allow our Turkmen compatriots, who have been subjected to countless massacres and oppression over the last century, to be victimized once again due to these latest developments within the scope of the census.

We need to do special work to ensure the population growth and ethnic preservation of the Turkmens, their population in the region is decreasing day by day...
 

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We need to ensure that those who leave Türkiye lose their turkish pasport. I hope that we don't accept dual citizenship between Türkiye and Iraq.

And in case they have permanent residency and go back using iraqi pasport we can do like EU, if you commit a crime and sentenced then you can lose you residency permit and get exported one way from Türkiye to Iraq.
 

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I call BS on this, it's nearly winter, so we know where they've gone, to the cities and homes to wait until spring/summer.

We need to hunt them down in the cities where they're resting, especially within our own borders, register and locate them and their kin.
 

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I call BS on this, it's nearly winter, so we know where they've gone, to the cities and homes to wait until spring/summer.

We need to hunt them down in the cities where they're resting, especially within our own borders, register and locate them and their kin.
When it comes to Zap, the terrorists are not roaming freely.

Sergele pass, the Sergele village, Balinda area are all under control. There are a couple of tunnels where the terrorists are besieged. There is no way of resupply and this winter will be very hard for them.

TSK is currently preparing to take on Gara. Zap is done, Metina is also largely under control and the 5 tunnels there are besieged, there are also activities at Musakka and Sirin mountains in Hakurk.

This winter will be very different to the last winter. Last winter they managed to resupply the tunnels with special teams coming from Gara trough the tunnel close to the Sergele dam. İn result of the change of tactics, the logistics system was targeted and no more logistics can flow from Gara to Zap and Metina. This season a lot of good things were made.

You know that I am usually critical of TSK, but this time I am happy with the results TSK achieved.

The biggest problem this winter would be suicide missions from the tunnels and drone attacks. PKK currently operates FPV drones and there is a rumor of a recent supply. I think this is concerning.
 

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Besides jamming devices all you can do against FPV drone attacks is streching a net over parts of the base (at least parts that need protection), fortifying the base even further and monitoring the tunnel entrances.

Technology doesn't work well when there is a snow storm/fog etc. therefore we need other measurments, to protect the soldiers and effectively repeling potential suicide attacks.
 
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I still don't understand why the head of the snake still gets to appear on TV and issue threats. Kill them and start internal fighting for power and money.
 

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Besides jamming devices all you can do against FPV drone attacks is streching a net over parts of the base (at least parts that need protection), fortifying the base even further and monitoring the tunnel entrances.

Technology doesn't work well when there is a snow storm/fog etc. therefore we need other measurments, to protect the soldiers and effectively repeling potential suicide attacks.
doesnt that also apply to said FPV drones? How are they supposed to be operated during extremely snowy and foggy weather?
 

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doesnt that also apply to said FPV drones? How are they supposed to be operated during extremely snowy and foggy weather?
I doubt that those FPV drones they used so far would work in weather condition with harsher wind, however a net would be an extra protection no matter bad or good weather. I'd rather have it than not.
 

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After Korkut and other measures were deployed we saw a very sharp decline in the effective use of PKK's FPV drones. The last attack that PKK shared was the concerning part as it was done against soldiers most likely patrolling or conducting search and destroy operations. We can say that the base areas are currently better protected in comparison to the times where initially the main counter-measure was the Bofors 40mm modernized cannon. Currently better precautions are taken, but there is still the danger for the troops outside of their bases and also construction/working sites outside of the coverage of our counter-measure shield.
 
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