TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[uçuyorum]

UAV-230 has about the same specifications as TRG-230, but has more than twice the range, 150+ km to TRG's 70 km. I believe same thing happened when Roketsan tested UAV-122 as well. So, TRG-300 when launched from an F-16, which flies higher and faster than an Akıncı, it should easily surpass 200+ kms of range.

These artillery rocket turned missiles would naturally be more expensive than, for example, a MK83 + a guidance kit, but, in comparison to a cruise missile they would be far more economical. We already produce and use lots of MK series bombs with guidance kits and recently got Tolun. With these new ones, we'll be filling an empty position between guided bombs and cruise missiles, they have great range, supersonic and relatively cheap so they are a great option to have.

Plus hard to intercept than a cruise missile right?

 

[Saithan]

Well, I was also thinking that if we don't change the weight too much, but make it lighter with same warhead then it would be possible to launch these from Akinci, KE, Anka and such.

 

[boredaf]

Plus hard to intercept than a cruise missile right?

It is and it isn't, I imagine. Yes, it is far faster than a cruise missile like Çakır, which might make it harder to intercept for some systems, but it also cannot change its course or hide itself using the terrain or other advanced manoeuvres like that as far as I know. Just like any other system, it has its ups and down and its place in our inventory. Especially for UAVs like Akıncı, a missile with a range of 150+ km that an UAV can carry multiple of is a great option to have.

 

[boredaf]

Well, I was also thinking that if we don't change the weight too much, but make it lighter with same warhead then it would be possible to launch these from Akinci, KE, Anka and such.

UAV-122 and 230 have already been launched from Akıncı and made for drones, as the name is a dead give away. I'm not sure if they can carry TRG-300, its about 600 kg so I'm not sure if they can carry it under their wings but Akıncı can probably carry 1 under its fuselage. Air launched TRG-300 would be a better choice for F-16, imo, as it can carry multiple easily.

 

[Yasar_TR]

UAV-122 and 230 have already been launched from Akıncı and made for drones, as the name is a dead give away. I'm not sure if they can carry TRG-300, its about 600 kg so I'm not sure if they can carry it under their wings but Akıncı can probably carry 1 under its fuselage. Air launched TRG-300 would be a better choice for F-16, imo, as it can carry multiple easily.

Israeli Rampage is the same as a trg300 adapted to be carried and launched by F16s. It can be fired whilst f16 is at supersonic speeds, and 4 of them can be carried by an f16.
These missiles fly at 4.2 mach at mid course and are difficult to intecrept. Israelis give 250km range with impact velocity between 1.1-1.6 Mach. Non guided 300mm rocket artillery are cheap. But when guided, they can be above 25K dollars a piece. American ones are 45K a piece. Nevertheless , they are much more economical and comparatively expendable in quantity than cruise missiles.
But due to their ballistic trajectories they can be tracked from a long distance. A subsonic cruise missile like SOM, can fly close to surface and may only be picked by radars when it is ~30 km from its target. As it has stealth construction and can navigate the terrain, it may be too late to intercept. But it costs over a million dollars.

 

[boredaf]

But when guided, they can be above 25K dollars a piece. American ones are 45K a piece.

Damn, that is dirt cheap in comparison to even smaller missiles, even Hellfires are around 100k as far as I know. Now I really hope Roketsan is working on an air launched version. They would be an especially great option in a saturation attack along with cruise missiles and long range kamikaze drones, for example.

 

[Afif]

But when guided, they can be above 25K dollars a piece. American ones are 45K a piece.

Any source?