TR Naval Programs

[Anmdt]

Dont we need the 4/5k ton frigates if we want to become a ''blue water'' navy?
Lets face it ,TF-2000 alone wont cut it.
AC,2 TF-2000,1/2 Milden,1 LSS and then what?
The old OHP's?
How to form a battle group?

Think of TF-2000 as a three-block program. Currently we are preparing for construction of 4 that will make the middle-tier AAW Destroyer functions. It will have a block with less weapon, sensors and multi-mission capabilities (through a multi-mission bay) version and an enlarged higher block version with more sensors, and better EW capability.

 

[Khagan1923]

TCG Izmit (Third Ship)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869732519442370652

TCG Izmir (Second Ship)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869752725191405851

@Anmdt
With the speed these are being built could we see them being handed over to the Navy for tests next year?

 

[Anmdt]

TCG Izmit (Third Ship)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869732519442370652

TCG Izmir (Second Ship)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869752725191405851

@Anmdt
With the speed these are being built could we see them being handed over to the Navy for tests next year?

The outfitting is the most difficult stage of all. Looking at these pictures, I can't figure out if they have used fitted out blocks like Istanbul Naval Shipyard is capable of. I would say towards the end of the year we can see them fully outfitted and delivered to Navy in H1, and H2 2026 (or more like not commissioned but manned by Navy) and H1 2027 for the third. 6 months off seems plausible to me. Add 6 to 12 months per ship for sea trials and testing. 6 months offset is considered necessary due to logistics and manning the process of equipment installation / outfitting, port acceptance tests and so on.

So approximately:

#Hull	Sails at (Sea Trial)	Commissioned
1st	H1 2026	H1 2027
2nd	H2 2026	H2 2027
3rd	H1 2027	H1 2028
4th	H2 2027	H2 2028
5th	H1 2028	H1 2029
6th	H2 2028	H2 2029
7th	H1 2029	H1 2030

 

[godel44]

This account says that the remaining 7 Istif class ships will have DÜFAS as well as a diver detection sonar and quad packed VLS.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869715598889906684

DÜFAS on 7 ships sounds like music to my ears...

 

[Yasar_TR]

The outfitting is the most difficult stage of all. Looking at these pictures, I can't figure out if they have used fitted out blocks like Istanbul Naval Shipyard is capable of. I would say towards the end of the year we can see them fully outfitted and delivered to Navy in H1, and H2 2026 (or more like not commissioned but manned by Navy) and H1 2027 for the third. 6 months off seems plausible to me. Add 6 to 12 months per ship for sea trials and testing. 6 months offset is considered necessary due to logistics and manning the process of equipment installation / outfitting, port acceptance tests and so on.

So approximately:

#Hull	Sails at (Sea Trial)	Commissioned
1st	H1 2026	H1 2027
2nd	H2 2026	H2 2027
3rd	H1 2027	H1 2028
4th	H2 2027	H2 2028
5th	H1 2028	H1 2029
6th	H2 2028	H2 2029
7th	H1 2029	H1 2030

https://savunmasanayiidergilik.com/tr/HaberDergilik/MiLGEM-6-7-8-firkateynlerin-sac-kesim-toreni-gerceklestirildi

STM - Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan MİLGEM Fırkateynlerinin İnşasını Başlattı

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, MİLGEM projesinin 6-7-8. fırkateynlerinin sac kesim törenini gerçekleştirdi. Haberin detaylarını incelemek için tıklayınız.

www.stm.com.tr

April 2023, all three ships’ steel cutting was done at the same time. It was then stated by RTE that within 36 months all 3 ships would be delivered to the Navy. According to this statement the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ships on your list, all should be delivered to the navy before April 2026. (the attached X message actually states that the first 3 ships will be delivered in 2026. Remaining ship to be delivered in 2027)

I wonder if those pictures are old and dated. And in reality the production is far ahead of what is portrayed in the pictures!

 

[Anmdt]

https://savunmasanayiidergilik.com/tr/HaberDergilik/MiLGEM-6-7-8-firkateynlerin-sac-kesim-toreni-gerceklestirildi

STM - Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan MİLGEM Fırkateynlerinin İnşasını Başlattı

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, MİLGEM projesinin 6-7-8. fırkateynlerinin sac kesim törenini gerçekleştirdi. Haberin detaylarını incelemek için tıklayınız.

www.stm.com.tr

April 2023, all three ships’ steel cutting was done at the same time. It was then stated by RTE that within 36 months all 3 ships would be delivered to the Navy. According to this statement the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ships on your list, all should be delivered to the navy before April 2026. (the attached X message actually states that the first 3 ships will be delivered in 2026. Remaining ship to be delivered in 2027)

I wonder if those pictures are old and dated. And in reality the production is far ahead of what is portrayed in the pictures!

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Intrinsically i have introduced a year delay and haven't assumed all three ships can be simultaneously outfitted. If all three shipyards are capable of carrying out simultaneous outfitting and organization of logistics and integration of components then the dates are achievable by maximum a year delay. As in, 2027 for first three, 2028-2029H1 for remaining 4 is safely achievable.

We are highly benefiting from utilizing resources of three separate shipyards and STM's expertise in logistics management. But could they manage limited subcontractors on specialized fields, or could they find alternatives to certain ones? Could manufacturers of components catch up with the schedule and so on. Seeing Izmir / Izmit's progress will tell us about the rest, imo. I can't see it yet.