TR Navy Naval Programs

[Saithan]

Unirobotics ? But since it's aselsan is it good enough ?

 

[dBSPL]

Another slide previously unseen showing the mission loadout of the MCMV. Multiple types of UUVs, ability to carry 2 USVs as well as 2 RHIBs.

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Container space on deck for optional capabilities or logistics. Huge closed area and multiple crane equipment for 2 USVs in addition to multiple RHIBs. Also can have large number of towed or autonomous underwater vehicles that many of types inc from sonars to other analysis vehicles, from cable cutters to mine detonating vehicles etc . Sophisticated hull mounted sonar configuration and networked fleet data integration with Advent CMS. MCM vessels can also be seen as highly capable patrol/support vessels if needed, am I wrong?

Theoretically, showed design can operate with more than 10 robotic, autonomous or semi-autonomous underwater and surface systems load. And even container space can be configured for VTOL/rotary-wing UAVs if needed. Perhaps a LIDAR based minipod could be developed for near-surface classification and localization, for sub-cloud UAVs.

 

[Sanchez]

Per the weekly briefings, first steel cut and welding activities of TF-2000, MilDen and MUGEM were completed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874750191309578578

 

[hugh]

Is TF-2000's first steel cut also ceremonial like the aircraft carrier? Why did they start "building" MİLDEN, MUGEM and TF-2000 at the same time? Is it just for the "wow effect"?

 

[Turkic]

Is TF-2000's first steel cut also ceremonial like the aircraft carrier? Why did they start "building" MİLDEN, MUGEM and TF-2000 at the same time? Is it just for the "wow effect"?

I don't see a reason to create wow effect now. It may be for getting ready the carrier body before 2028 elections. It is an aircraft carrier (for people) when it gets the shape. They wouldn't know how much work left which is as much as passed. They even can be fully built TF-2000 by then.

 

[Nutuk]

Is TF-2000's first steel cut also ceremonial like the aircraft carrier? Why did they start "building" MİLDEN, MUGEM and TF-2000 at the same time? Is it just for the "wow effect"?

Because it makes sense?

When you have an aircraft carrier, you need a battle group around it.

Key parts of that battle group = TF-2000 and Milden

Our other ships are more for littoral combat

 

[Baryshx]

Per the weekly briefings, first steel cut and welding activities of TF-2000, MilDen and MUGEM were completed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874750191309578578

Very good newsakp is only trying to do a decent job in military matters. Other than that they don't exist.

 

[hugh]

Because it makes sense?

They started the design of the AC like yesterday. How does that make sense? I'm sure you know how much TF2000's design took? Does the suffix "2000" mean anything?

 

[Fairon]

I lowkey think that navy is using aircraft carrier as a means to get greenlit their real ship needs.(Like " you know we would need new ships to protect our carrier" etc) They found a way for fleet replacement which was long overdue and they are using it.

I know It's a long shot, but if that's the case, I would be glad that they did it.

 

[Baryshx]

They started the design of the AC like yesterday. How does that make sense? I'm sure you know how much TF2000's design took? Does the suffix "2000" mean anything?

It happens in politics. Until the 2028 elections, they have to come up with something. At least this kind of political show is useful for our military needs.

 

[Ripley]

How long have we been designing (initial to production design) the MUGEM?
When did we outline the project? Which contractors (main and sub-contractors) are designated and assigned in the project? How much will it cost? How long it will take to build it?

If, and only if, this was a top secret project that started within the last decade and just been implemented without any fanfare, well, then this must be our 65.000 tons National Aircraft Carrier (MUGEM)

If the the mentioned conditions above are not reached, implemented within the last decade with utmost secrecy, then WT hell is the hull we just had steel cutting ceremony for?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

They started the design of the AC like yesterday. How does that make sense? I'm sure you know how much TF2000's design took? Does the suffix "2000" mean anything?

Did u know that when we buy Anadolu we aslo buy TOT with it , Perhaps they just took Anadolu design and modify it longer and heavier , its like how much time did take for Milgem 99 meter to milgem 114 meter change design ?? Perhaps few months .
Same from Anadolu 232 meter to Mugem 285 meter can take 2-3 years for my opinion

 

[dBSPL]

Maybe symbolic ceremonies to mark the concrete start of projects? Could they be test blocks? Or maybe the production of some blocks was started before the detailed design was completed? Or, more optimistically, the information given to the press about the stages of the projects was not synchronized with the progress actually made. I am sure ANMDT üstad will enlighten us in detail on these issues.

But What I would like to draw attention to is the fact that our Naval Forces Command has reached the infrastructure and technical conditions to start the construction of three strategic platforms at the same time with its own infrastructure, which all 3 vessels are flagships in their class with a total displacement of more than 75 thousand tons. Turkish naval industry promise a very different future. This will potentially shape the international image of the Turkish state, its political power, also the nation's view of maritime affairs and many other factors from the roots.

edit: A list of naval ships currently production activities for the Turkish Navy are ongoing simultaneously

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874809415536197696

 

[Nutuk]

They started the design of the AC like yesterday. How does that make sense? I'm sure you know how much TF2000's design took? Does the suffix "2000" mean anything?

True they indeed did start design of the aircraft carrier very recently but the navy is wishing an aircraft carrier already since 2000 (25 years ago)

Our technology is just recently maturing (able to build radars, VLS systems, AD missiles etc. etc.). Now all ingredients are there it makes sense to start them simultaneously.

An aircraft carrier without battle group is half and vulnerable

We may not realize it fully but the Turkish defense industry has acquired doctorate.

 

[Anmdt]

How long have we been designing (initial to production design) the MUGEM?

Few months.

Maybe symbolic ceremonies to mark the concrete start of projects? Could they be test blocks? Or maybe the production of some blocks was started before the detailed design was completed? Or, more optimistically, the information given to the press about the stages of the projects was not synchronized with the progress actually made. I am sure ANMDT üstad will enlighten us in detail on these issues.

But What I would like to draw attention to is the fact that our Naval Forces Command has reached the infrastructure and technical conditions to start the construction of three strategic platforms at the same time with its own infrastructure, which all 3 vessels are flagships in their class with a total displacement of more than 75 thousand tons. Turkish naval industry promise a very different future. This will potentially shape the international image of the Turkish state, its political power, also the nation's view of maritime affairs and many other factors from the roots.

edit: A list of naval ships currently production activities for the Turkish Navy are ongoing simultaneously

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874809415536197696

I have described it as far as i could in earlier posts,
Milden has a long way ahead with a core team working on it, consider first Milden as a research and capability gain project, a long but necessary road for us all. It needs improvements in research infrastructure, a lot of pressure on Aselsan, Roketsan and other Small enterprises who will be working on refined systems and components relating to the submarine. Steel cutting and welding means that the government finally shares enthusiasm of the team (Milden DPO) and taking it to next level in procurement, budget allocation and project management.

Same applies for TF-2000.

While MUGEM is merely a political tool as of now.

 

[Sanchez]

We knew for some time Dearsan was awarded the next 4 Hisar Class OPVs

Per Naval Insider claim, next 4 Hisar Class OPVs are to be named as followed: "Sultanhisar (P-1222/TBMC), Yarhisar (P-1223/TBMD), Demirhisar (P-1224/TBME), Sivrihisar (P-1225/TBMF)"

All 6 names are 1/1 lifted from the 1960s Hisar Class patrol ships, and of course previous ships beforehand.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875104844354314377

 

[Sanchez]

Per Naval Insider claim, next 4 Hisar Class OPVs are to be named as followed: "Sultanhisar (P-1222/TBMC), Yarhisar (P-1223/TBMD), Demirhisar (P-1224/TBME), Sivrihisar (P-1225/TBMF)"

All 6 names are 1/1 lifted from the 1960s Hisar Class patrol ships, and of course previous ships beforehand.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875104844354314377

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875102982661984563

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

 

[dBSPL]

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875102982661984563

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

Is there a possibility that MCMV will also be included in the contract?

 

[Sanchez]

Is there a possibility that MCMV will also be included in the contract?

From what's put out I think Dearsan handles the MCMV by itself, unlike the Hisars with "Dearsan-Desan-Özata". Contract announcement would likely mention it separately.

 

[Sanchez]

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

Akbaba claims Dearsan will build two while Desan and Özata will build one each. All in all, this brings the shipyards that have built/will build a Ada hull ship to I believe 10? TAIS, Istanbul, Istanbul Naval, RMK, Dearsan, Desan, Özata and KSEW in Pakistan. What a design.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875893157461999748