TR Naval Programs

[Anmdt]

How long have we been designing (initial to production design) the MUGEM?

Few months.

Maybe symbolic ceremonies to mark the concrete start of projects? Could they be test blocks? Or maybe the production of some blocks was started before the detailed design was completed? Or, more optimistically, the information given to the press about the stages of the projects was not synchronized with the progress actually made. I am sure ANMDT üstad will enlighten us in detail on these issues.

But What I would like to draw attention to is the fact that our Naval Forces Command has reached the infrastructure and technical conditions to start the construction of three strategic platforms at the same time with its own infrastructure, which all 3 vessels are flagships in their class with a total displacement of more than 75 thousand tons. Turkish naval industry promise a very different future. This will potentially shape the international image of the Turkish state, its political power, also the nation's view of maritime affairs and many other factors from the roots.

edit: A list of naval ships currently production activities for the Turkish Navy are ongoing simultaneously

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874809415536197696

I have described it as far as i could in earlier posts,
Milden has a long way ahead with a core team working on it, consider first Milden as a research and capability gain project, a long but necessary road for us all. It needs improvements in research infrastructure, a lot of pressure on Aselsan, Roketsan and other Small enterprises who will be working on refined systems and components relating to the submarine. Steel cutting and welding means that the government finally shares enthusiasm of the team (Milden DPO) and taking it to next level in procurement, budget allocation and project management.

Same applies for TF-2000.

While MUGEM is merely a political tool as of now.

 

[Sanchez]

We knew for some time Dearsan was awarded the next 4 Hisar Class OPVs

Per Naval Insider claim, next 4 Hisar Class OPVs are to be named as followed: "Sultanhisar (P-1222/TBMC), Yarhisar (P-1223/TBMD), Demirhisar (P-1224/TBME), Sivrihisar (P-1225/TBMF)"

All 6 names are 1/1 lifted from the 1960s Hisar Class patrol ships, and of course previous ships beforehand.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875104844354314377

 

[Sanchez]

Per Naval Insider claim, next 4 Hisar Class OPVs are to be named as followed: "Sultanhisar (P-1222/TBMC), Yarhisar (P-1223/TBMD), Demirhisar (P-1224/TBME), Sivrihisar (P-1225/TBMF)"

All 6 names are 1/1 lifted from the 1960s Hisar Class patrol ships, and of course previous ships beforehand.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875104844354314377

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875102982661984563

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

 

[dBSPL]

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875102982661984563

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

Is there a possibility that MCMV will also be included in the contract?

 

[Sanchez]

Is there a possibility that MCMV will also be included in the contract?

From what's put out I think Dearsan handles the MCMV by itself, unlike the Hisars with "Dearsan-Desan-Özata". Contract announcement would likely mention it separately.

 

[Sanchez]

In the same vein, Aselsan signed a deal worth €210 million contract for "Electronic Warfare, Radar, Communication, Navigation, Weapon, Electro-Optic and Underwater Systems for naval platforms", with Dearsan-Desan-Özata shipyards, who I believe are responsible for this program. "Deliveries will be completed between 2025 and 2029."

Pretty long lead time of 4 years which makes me think the 2+2 is not an option per se but there will be some years between the two deliveries. Aselsan takes the cake for most of the equipment on the ships, which comes down to 53 million dollars(52m €) per ship. Must be pretty cheap.

Akbaba claims Dearsan will build two while Desan and Özata will build one each. All in all, this brings the shipyards that have built/will build a Ada hull ship to I believe 10? TAIS, Istanbul, Istanbul Naval, RMK, Dearsan, Desan, Özata and KSEW in Pakistan. What a design.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875893157461999748

 

[Anmdt]

Akbaba claims Dearsan will build two while Desan and Özata will build one each.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875893157461999748

Yes, it is correct, but 2 of the ships are still optional. Actual order is only for first two.

Possibly first two will start construction at Özata and Desan, Dearsan's slipway is occupied with Qatari FAC and MCMW ship.

What I found out recently;

Initially Aselsan signed a $40 million agreement with ASFAT, probably for two ships. Now it is about $50 million per ship.

The increase can only be explained by the inclusion of additional sensor systems, ESM, stabilized turret, sonar, etc. We can see PIRI IRST on the new hulls.

 

[Sanchez]

Yes, it is correct, but 2 of the ships are still optional. Actual order is only for first two.

Possibly first two will start construction at Özata and Desan, Dearsan's slipway is occupied with Qatari FAC and MCMW ship.

What I found out recently;

Initially Aselsan signed a $40 million agreement with ASFAT, probably for two ships. Now it is about $50 million per ship.

The increase can only be explained by the inclusion of additional sensor systems, ESM, stabilized turret, sonar, etc. We can see PIRI IRST on the new hulls.

That's very interesting. Wish we had some more clarity on construction and on the loadout. Let's see if the shipyards announce a contract with Roketsan soon.