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[YeşilVatan]

Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Good map but Ottoman holdings in Africa were greatly exaggerated. 16th century was the high point in Turkish history.

 

[Heartbang]

Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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S T E P P E S U P R E M A C Y

 

[Nilgiri]

Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Absolute Monarchies are always tenuous and ticking time bombs as they do not having basic law, rights and dignity cohesively and default applied at the citizen level (i.e its all serfs and subjects to be essentially playthings).

So the quality of the sovereign waxes and wanes, and mostly wanes given what concentrated human power tends to do, especially one in family/dynasty succession format with all its competition at that level compared to what the people ought to have in basic path-hood of equal opportunity (education --->work ethic---->innovation ladders unlocked by that rather than agrarian basis).

i.e its very rarely a hobbesian idyll....then the lack of proper resolution to handle accountability and justice properly to grow long term social trust and investment (which must be secured for any human, social and economic development to take place).

Ataturk learned on the fly and very quickly the importance of the republic and it being secular and progressive (on things like mass basic education) once its security and borders are finally secured and stabilised from wars that came from the brittle tenuous nature he saw firsthand with the progenitor empire. Turkiye benefited immensely from Ataturk.

 

[Afif]

@Ryder @TR_123456 @Nilgiri

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879818685445177641

lol, they have gone full clown

 

[YeşilVatan]

Saral crime family is Laz supremacist drug traffickers. This is not surprising at all.

 

[dBSPL]

Good map but Ottoman holdings in Africa were greatly exaggerated. 16th century was the high point in Turkish history.

I think a mapping was intended to be done here by including the impact areas. We know that many tribal unions in the depths extending to the territory of Mali-Niger today swore allegiance to Istanbul, as the seat of the caliphate. Even today, there are tribes that have ritualized this history. Even the sultanate of Aceh in the Sumatra region of South Asia was not technically a Turko/Mongolic state or an autonomous structure of the Ottoman Empire, but it was a sultanate that accepted Ottoman leadership in Islamic unity and the Ottomans provided naval and technical support against Portuguese raids on many occasions. Therefore, this should be seen as a map of spheres of influence. However, this does not change the fact that I disagree with what you mean, I just wanted to make a note about what the map is trying to convey. The series of grave mistakes made in this century is a chain of events that needs to be written about in detail. As a common phenomenon in political history of humankind, when world orders reach their peak, they also create the conditions for their collapse.

 

[Saithan]

Türkiye slams US over arms sales to Greek Cyprus - Türkiye News

Türkiye has condemned the United States for designating Greek Cyprus as an eligible country for arms sales and military training, urging this move will increase armament activities on the island.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

 

[dBSPL]

Video clips of the opening of the Adapazarı Military Manufacturing Factory, including Enver Pasha.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880154797581693353

 

[BordoEnes]

Anbody know what happened to Cabatli and Sinan?

 

[CAN_TR]

Anbody know what happened to Cabatli and Sinan?

Also Xenon54, a lot of good lads disappeared.

 

[guest12]

Anbody know what happened to Cabatli and Sinan?

Sinan ragequitted because heated politic discussions we had during presidental election. For others i dont know probably bored or busy with IRL problems.

 

[BordoEnes]

@Cabatli_TR @Test7 both still there but not active, Sinan and Xenon left because the forum turned into a AKP mouthpiece in their eyes.
@Bogeyman is gone because the forum turned into a anti AKP forum in his eyes.
In my eyes,if you cant/dont see you're blind and have no place here.

Aah that breaks my heart not gonna lie...

Atleast Xenon will live on in my signature

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I miss @Combat-Master posts mostly
@MADDOG isn't contributing as he used to
and I think it's a shame that people take it too personal in a defence forum.
Let people be whatever their political views are, wth?

 

[Ripley]

Well well!
He has been constantly pushing someone’s button recently. Seemingly, he pressed the right button (or wrong one, depending where you stand)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881400563964715009

“Our Chairman Prof. Dr. Ümit Özdağ was detained in Ankara this evening and after a health check, he set off for Istanbul to give his statement.

We invite all our citizens, their supporters and our party members to stand with our Chairman Prof. Dr. Ümit Özdağ.

We kindly request our citizens not to trust information that does not come from official channels.

In the future, necessary statements about the situation will be made through our party's official accounts.

For public information..

#ÜmitÖzdağYalnızDeğildir”

The usual cleaning and defamation campaign started already. So, We can expect an early election I guess

 

[TheInsider]

This is a good development hopefully it will further boost the popularity of him and his party. AKP is losing control because polls are not good for them. AKP lost another 4 points due to the renewed peace process. Ekrem İmamoğlu might also be taken into custody.

 

[Ripley]

This is a good development hopefully it will further boost the popularity of him and his party. AKP is losing control because polls are not good for them. AKP lost another 4 points due to the renewed peace process. Ekrem İmamoğlu might also be taken into custody.

I agree. The Zafer Party was already above 10% at polls.
The rest is usual process. Daunt ‘em, intimidate ‘em and break ‘em.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881398125967081783

 

[AlperTunga]

Sahipsiz köpek sürüsünün katlettiği Eslem'in acılı babası konuştu: Son noktadayız artık | VİDEO İZLE

Hakkari'nin Yüksekova ilçesinde, sürü halinde gezen sahipsiz sokak köpeklerinin saldırısında ölen 12 yaşındaki Eslem Teker’in babası Ersin Teker (34), taziye evinde konuştu. Bir zincir markette kasiyer olan acılı baba, "maalesef kızım ihmal sonucu vefat etti. Bundan sonra da kimsenin canı...

www.yenisafak.com

In Türkiye, children are still being torn to pieces by stray dogs on their way to library or school. What a shame that the state is not able to prevent this! I am disgusted.

 

[TR_123456]

Sahipsiz köpek sürüsünün katlettiği Eslem'in acılı babası konuştu: Son noktadayız artık | VİDEO İZLE

Hakkari'nin Yüksekova ilçesinde, sürü halinde gezen sahipsiz sokak köpeklerinin saldırısında ölen 12 yaşındaki Eslem Teker’in babası Ersin Teker (34), taziye evinde konuştu. Bir zincir markette kasiyer olan acılı baba, "maalesef kızım ihmal sonucu vefat etti. Bundan sonra da kimsenin canı...

www.yenisafak.com

In Türkiye, children are still being torn to pieces by stray dogs on their way to library or school. What a shame that the state is not able to prevent this! I am disgusted.

They must kill all stray dogs.