Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Spitfire9]

All NATO would have do is give Ukraine a proper airforce. Each country could spare ten jets and Russia is probably cooked. Has Zelensky ever brought up the fact that the way his country is being armed is basically designed to drag the war out and stop eitherside from claiming victory?

I think that a large number of retiring European F-16 are pledged to Ukraine. Without checking, I think 75+. Of course, transfer to Ukraine can be blocked by the US.

In the long term a fighter force based on Gripen C/Gripen E would suit Ukraine best IMO. US could block those, too.

 

[Lool]

Looks like they are throwing Zelensky like trash, i respected Zelensky because he refused to give the wealth off his people away.

You were saying?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896952122379583729

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897000625612918803

Bro, Zelensky is weak AF but he is just now showing it
He will regret going against Trump since Trump will take his revenge by making his demands even tougher in the deal

 

[TR_123456]

I think that a large number of retiring European F-16 are pledged to Ukraine. Without checking, I think 75+. Of course, transfer to Ukraine can be blocked by the US.

In the long term a fighter force based on Gripen C/Gripen E would suit Ukraine best IMO. US could block those, too.

Why not second hand Rafale,they cant be blocked by the US?

 

[Spitfire9]

Why not second hand Rafale,they cant be blocked by the US?

I don't know how many can be obtained quickly but yes, better than a fighter that the US could block or ground after supply.

 

[blackjack]

So whats the argument? Russia doesnt have the population it and UN says it has?

Europe does not have the industrial capability for necessary items like producing shells, heavy armored vehicles and rockets. And there is no way euros that are not in the military would want to be forcefully drafted to fight Russia in Ukraine. Trump openly mocked Zelensky for making Ukraine and Europe look militarily weak as a show of force against Russia without the US by Zelensky saying the war will be very very long. 3 years of the war Ukraine has constantly gotten surrounded by Russian forces through cauldrons and have lesser firepower where the majority of deaths done by this war were through explosives like rockets, drones and missiles which Ukraine has nowhere near close to Russia.

I think even the euros are happy to use Hungary and Slovakia as scapegoats to delay further aid to Ukraine while still looking like they support Ukraine for good publicity optics.

Trump on his speech is basically implying that Zelensky will eventually cave in to sign his mineral deal. I admit it was boring and not what I expected as in I thought he would show the ukraine peace agreement.

 

[blackjack]

What we still dont know about the peace deal is will there be Russian peacekeepers in a DMZ Ukraine? NATO peacekeepers? Will the US even provide a deal for the Russians that would stop Ukrainians from acting like ******* again to re-arm and restart the conflict? Will they do anything if Russia tells them to fuck off as usual and they continue pushing west if they state NATO peacekeepers?
The conflict is already in Russia's favor if the US stopped military aid(while constantly dooming that Ukraine doesn't have the resources they can provide and manpower to win) and Europe is using Slovakia and Hungary as scapegoats for blocking the 20-billion-euro aid package to Ukraine. I am assuming that the US and Europe will try to salvage whatever is left of Ukraine and even they don't want Russia to move to far west to lower the return in investment (unless the US already made a deal with Russia behind closed doors on the minerals).

 

[Soldier30]

Footage of a Russian guided aerial bomb strike on a temporary deployment point of the 37th Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the village of Komar in the south of Donbas. It is unknown what carried out the strike. There are two versions. A FAB 3000 bomb and a UMBP D-30SN inter-service munition, information about them is in the links to the video in the comments to the video. The FAB 3000 is not visible on the screen and its explosion is more powerful. It is possible that this UMBP D-30SN munition was launched from a Su-34 aircraft, or a Smerch MLRS or a Tornado-S MLRS. As a result of the precise hit of the Russian bomb, part of the building was destroyed, server equipment and satellite communication terminals were destroyed. The number of Ukrainian servicemen killed is unknown. Information about the successful use of Ukrainian electronic warfare against Russian precision bombs has not been confirmed.